** More 'Pool Rudeness' - I received a survey from DVC..**

[madcoco]

Alot of us "locals" stay away from the strip most of the time that don't work there.On the same account you have a lot of locals and people staying at Motel 6s that would try to "gate crash" the resorts to use the facilities. Our next door neighbors were a prime example and they use to succeed at a few of the older resorts then brag about it.

Wheeler is right as most of the resorts have designed pool security from the beginning.VB system might not be perfect but it works I never see it being overun by locals.In WDW you have alot more people to contend with.

 

[crisi]

I like the elastic wristband idea. They wouldn't even have to collect them at the end of the stay - just make them in dozens of different colors and patterns with the resort name, month and year. - Hey, they'd be collectable! DVC members would have to check in at the front desk and pick up that resorts wristband when pool hopping (which would also put the kabosh on DVCers who pool hop during blackout periods).

Yes, locals would get them for a one night stay and then get to pool crash, but the locals that are pool crashing anyway would need to invest in a one night stay once a month. And yes, resort swapper could spend one night at the poly and six at all stars and swim at the poly. But it would probably catch 90% of the abusers, be cheap to implement and not cost a lot in additional staff.

(And when I stayed at the WL in Feburary as a non-DVC guest, all the literature mentioned the quiet pool and spa as an amenity. Not that we got over that far).

 

[Laurajean1014]

I agree on an entry key at poolside. Vero has a tasteful gate and is only minorly inconvenient (when you forget and have a stuff in your hands). I always have my key with me. With a little one who's always hungry or wanting something from the General Store, I need to have it at all times.

Locals do use the Disney beach often!

I wonder if it matters to the sharks?

JK,

L

 

[Mooobooks]

Here's a vote for wrist-bands--the only solution that you're likely to get from a very money-conscious Disney Company at the moment.
Considering the extent of the security they make you go through to get into the parks, isn't it odd that almost anyone can walk into most of the hotels and use the facilities? I'm not an alarmist, and I don't think a terrorist is going to blow up the Wilderness Lodge, but if they can check people going into the parks that thoroughly, it would seem within reason to check people using the rest of the facilities equally well--and that means those roaches who use the pools and don't stay at the hotel!

 

[donmil723]

I like the idea of using room keys for entrance to the pool area. SAB is fenced off now and CMs stand at 3 entrances (that I can think of right now) and check IDs and stamp your hand. I think it would be economically feasible for Disney to put in the gates with room key access rather than pay CMs to stand there all day. I'm not as familiar with the other deluxe resort pools, which seems to have most of the problems, so fencing might not be a feasible option at all of them.

I don't like the wristband idea. #1 because it's something else to remember to take with you from the room. I always double check that I have my room key when I leave my room so that's not a problem. #2 because I don't like to even wear a watch to the pool because of tan lines.

Hand stamps are annoying because they wash off!

So my vote goes to the room key solution!

 

[mzzbuzzlightyear]

I like the wristband solution. As was previously mentioned, this is done routinely in the Caribbean. Personally, I don't feel that it is a problem at all. Each hotel could have its own color, and all of DVC could have the same color. Therefore, overcrowding would be reduced with each Hotel having its own guests at their pools, and DVC being able to pool hop, as was promised us.

I think that eliminating crashers, and locals would really relieve a lot of the congestion.

Perhaps, then, poolhopping would not need to be suspended for DVCers

 

[Cru*Ella]

instead of a wristband, how about a tatoo.. and maybe pool crashers could just be shot?

The second crasher might think twice.....




tongue in cheek folks!

Seriously though, I agree wristbands (or some REAL system) is needed. I hate paying dues for someone else to take advantage. I'd probably pop a cork if I heard someone bragging about it! No, I wouldn't.... I'd go get a CM like a nice little lady and let THEM take care of it...

 

[tax58]

I think ID cards or wristbands might be a good way to save poolhopping for DVC members.

 

[trishy]

Nice, Cru*Ella - think it just may work Sounds like a good entry to a poll - probably will get lots of votes for that option.

 

[CaptainMidnight]

I think in trying to keep everything "magical" Disney has found itself victim to people who take advantage of the "magic". Personally, I think it's more distasteful and unpleasant to have to watch/listen as a CM grills a family at poolside and upon discovering that they are not staying at that resort, it is embarassing to watch the family looking embarassed as they gather their things and get "kicked out". Everybody stares. It definately (for me anyway) detracts from the "magic" to watch this happen to a family, and I've seen it happen more than once.

I think word will get around to the local pool crashers and these scenes will stop. Sorry, but they should be embarassed since they are not guests at the resort and are using the pool. There needs to be effort to curb pool hopping.

 

[wheeler]

in the context of that entire post, I meant it was more distasteful to watch families w/children get grilled and kicked out than it would be to just put a carded gate around the pool, because some posters were expressing that a gate would look ugly or out of place at certain resorts. I agree with you.......they should be embarassed (wow! this thread is from a year ago!)

 

[ClarabelleCow]

We stayed at the Atlantis in the Bahamas, each day you get your towels and show your key and they give you a color coded bracelet to strap on, kind of like a hospital band, each day it is a different one. So why can't they do that at all the resorts, each day is a different collar, and if you are in the pool and don't have one one, you get asked to get out and give your room key to the attendant to get the bracelet? I would think they have the computers to show where you are staying, lets say I am at the VWL and want to go to the Contemporary for the day, I either get my "blue" band at the WL, or when I head over to the Contemporary, they swipe my card, see that I am a paying guest, and give me a towel and bracelet.

 

[AEN]

What resurrected this thread?

Do you think the facilities really care? If they did wouldn't they have instituted some policies in the past? As other posters indicated, they could use straps, check at a gate (but these might require additional personnel). They could put a locking system on the towels (i.e. build a storage unit and put a typical door lock that only guest keys could open). I know we, as DVCers get real annoyed because we see our fees going up, but I don't get the impression that they are as disturbed. Sorry if I am speaking out of school.

 

[trishy]

What resurrected this thread?

Well, it appears CaptainMidnight has been mulling this one over for about a year. Glad you took the plunge and finally dove in (pun intended)

 

[Richyams]

He probably had his response saved and just realized that he never hit "submit"

 

[Laurajean1014]

When is the next DVC meeting? This should be something that is continueously brought up. Obviously, this is an issue or DVC would have never had the gate put in at VB. However, if DVC members and paid hotelers do not keep bringing it up, then WDW may not do anything about it.

Maybe WDW thinks this is a way people will get to see the resorts and aspire to stay there the next time?! Who knows. I just know that I think it is worth a letter and a discussion at the next DVC meet.

 

[zurgswife]

Well as far as fencing goes...BWV owns the fence and the Director of Recreations is just waiting for Board approval...something she has found difficult to obtain. Even though she knows it has helped the SAB crashers....I wonder if
VWL don't own a fence and haven't gotten approval to put it up...

 

[GraceDVC]

Last year, we were at the new BCVs and pool-hopped over to the BWV pool (the one I had visited earlier in the year and became so enraged about folks placing towels on chairs that stayed unused for hours). Well, to our delight, we noticed that pool attendants were routinely removing towels from unused chairs (that didn't have personal items on them). So, someone must be listening to our posts!

 

[Poorman]

And I thought my date was set wrong on my computer..... Wow you guys do think about your posts before you submit.

 

[KNWVIKING]

I thought it was bizzaire that a four page thread suddenly appeared. So I started reading it and it sounded familiar, then I got real confused when I saw my post on the top of page two. Took me a few seconds to realize i was reading a year old thread. Do we celebrate thread aniversaries now ?

But since the subject is up again, I've got a question: Was SAB giving out wrist bands back then ? We stayed at BCV in Nov and the band system seemed to work ok, but it does require the expense of a CM. I think the easiest & cheapest thing WDW could do for now is put up obvious signage that states the pool policy. Like I posted a year ago, I don't think guests at WL realize the VWL pool and spa are not meant for all guest to use. If people ignore signs,then escalate to a more obtrusive method.

Look forward to rehashing this next year.