More Fastpass 2.0 Info

[jade1]

The only rides where they may have been of use really were soaring and toy store mania, except they go so quick on these rides anyway!

But it would be nice to get these ahead of time for the exact reason you say-they go so quick. Is it right to penalize folks that stay out late and therefore arrive late? Or is right to give everyone an even chance ahead of time? Plus you are saying even in slow months-some rides do still need a FP.

Firstly, how will they allocate the actual time slots? Still first come first served? If so I can imagine a fast pass phone line being like the ADR one where people feel they must phone within minutes of the day they want opening to get an early time slot.

That's also what I'm wondering. Is at 30 days out at 8AM you can jump online and start selecting day by day? Will you pick a day-pick a park-pick a ride-then pick either a morning (opening to 1PM), an afternoon (12PM to 6PM), or an evening (5PM to closing) and just come back any time between an assume the crowds will even things out? Or will it be a minute by minute thing? Take some pretty good/secure software for that to work.

Another thing is how they plan on using fast passes for fireworks. Easily done for fantasmic maybe (allocate a few rows in the center) but what are they going to do for Wishes and Illuminations? Potentially it could get to the point where fast passes are a must have for Wishes depending on what location and the size of it they reserve. Bit worrying.

I cant see needing them for Spectro/Wishes/Illuminations-you can stand anywhere for those.

 

[wajones1903]

I guess I'm crazy because I'd rather them just make fastpasses available to resort guests. Either that or let resort guests have them for "free" (we all know they'd just raise room rates) and make them available to buy for offsite guests. I also think delux and moderate guests should get more then value resort guests. You are actually paying more. I am kind of a snob though.

 

[epcot.girl]

I wonder how this will work for UK visitors, as we have different ticket options than US visitors.

 

[Goopy]

I also think delux and moderate guests should get more then value resort guests. You are actually paying more. I am kind of a snob though.

They do, Its called better accomodations. You pay for what you get.

Im starting to think the easiest thing to do would be just to get rid of the whole fass pass idea and just make everyone stand in line together.

 

[epcot.girl]

I also think delux and moderate guests should get more then value resort guests. You are actually paying more. I am kind of a snob though.

Someone staying at ASMu for 15 nights is paying more than someone staying at GF for 3 nights - and consider amount spent on food on top of that.

 

[jade1]

Im starting to think the easiest thing to do would be just to get rid of the whole fass pass idea and just make everyone stand in line together.

Maybe, but eliminating ADR's for dining would be easier as well, just wait in line where you want to eat-I don't see that happening.

 

[jade1]

Someone staying at ASMu for 15 nights is paying more than someone staying at GF for 3 nights - and consider amount spent on food on top of that.

Actually its about the same (except food). Plus Disney can then rent the GF room for the next 12 nights after checkout (it wont sit empty) charging around $10,000 for the GF (and selling food) and maybe $2,000 for the ASMu.


It may never get tied to the room category though, maybe just the pass right?

 

[epcot.girl]

Actually its about the same (except food).

Yes, it's only about $100 difference - I would have chosen 14 nights (because that's probably the average length of stay for a UK visitor) but then I wouldn't have been able to say that it cost more!

 

[anthony2k7]

They do, Its called better accomodations. You pay for what you get.

Im starting to think the easiest thing to do would be just to get rid of the whole fass pass idea and just make everyone stand in line together.

but they're not going to do that because as many have said, the whole point of fast pass is that the less time people are in line means the more time they're buying food or merchandise - and if they can charge you for the privilage of having time to spend money then all the better from disneys point of view!

 

[anthony2k7]

I guess I'm crazy because I'd rather them just make fastpasses available to resort guests. Either that or let resort guests have them for "free" (we all know they'd just raise room rates) and make them available to buy for offsite guests. I also think delux and moderate guests should get more then value resort guests. You are actually paying more. I am kind of a snob though.

and the kind of people who can afford GF are the kind of people disney dont want standing in lines for most of their day because they're more likely to have more money to spend in shops!

IF they did give different amounts free depending on resort level then I wonder how many levels they would use? club level more than normal? DVC more than club? what about AP people?

There is clear logic for disney wanting DVC/club level guests to not be stood in lines at all so maybe give them unlimited fast passes?

 

[agnes!]

I wonder how they will incorporate AP-holders into this apparently-being-studied new system...

agnes!

 

[FigNewton]

More FP 2.0 rumors from "surveys" that apparently people aren't supposed to talk about?

 

[jade1]

I wonder how they will incorporate AP-holders into this apparently-being-studied new system...

agnes!

That is a great question. I could see it relate to onsite stays (res #), but what about off site or locals? At what point would they have the green light to obtain passes?

 

[marius97]

Offsite wouldn't be an issue if they used this system. Fastpasses were a part of the MYW base tickets, so everyone would get at least three. I don't know how they'd handle annual pass holders though.

That is a great question. I could see it relate to onsite stays (res #), but what about off site or locals? At what point would they have the green light to obtain passes?

 

[marius97]

More FP 2.0 rumors from "surveys" that apparently people aren't supposed to talk about?

We're all clear to talk about it...DW took the survey so her lips are sealed. I didn't take a survey, so I'm not bound by any non-disclosure that may have been in the survey. I just looked over her shoulder.

 

[rodkenrich]

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[Condorman]

Everyone seems bothered by the class distinction issues and the extra fee charges.

My problem is with the wristband itself. Clearly it would have some sort of microchip or barcode that would be scanned by machines, a la Tom Cruise in Minority Report (as if that weren't scary enough). However, are the wristbands detachable, and if so, what's to keep you from loaning it to a friend or family member who didn't pay or sign up for the perks? If it's not detachable, do you have to sleep and shower with it throughout your vacation? If they give you one per day, see problem #1. Are they expecting us to have a KTTW card AND a wristband? Disney is overthinking this. They want to make more money, fine. I get that. Keep it simple, on the KTTW card, charge $75-100 more per person, per stay, and give them a DreamPass and seating preference at all shows and fireworks. End of story.

Face characters reading the name on the wristband? Great, now they'll be forced to grab a child's wrist and flip it around instead of magically asking "What's your name, princess?"

Charging things to your wristband? Yeah, we already have that feature on cards, geniuses.

Reserving FPs in advance? As a PP already stated, this would create havoc online or on the phone lines.

C'mon, Disney, wake up. Just wait until somebody wants the features and pays for them only to complain about a skin condition that prevents them from wearing the wristband. You know this will happen. What will be the alternative? Disney will be sued and have to think of a Plan B, which will bring us right back to a new survey.

 

[DisneyCowgirl]

OMG! I don't want to wear a wristband because it will mess up all my pictures!

 

[Colleen27]

I really like the idea of reserving fastpasses in advance. We're not morning people, and on one trip we actually ended up skipping Soarin' because by the time we got to the park all the fastpasses were gone and we weren't going to wait an hour in the standby line. I anticipate the same thing happening with Toy Story Mania on our next trip. Reserving fastpasses in advance would let us get them without the mad rope drop dash.

As far as the upcharge add on, it would depend upon what is included and how it is priced. $75+ per person for the photopass shots we can buy the copyright to for $100 by ordering the CD and a couple extra fastpasses? No thanks, not for this family. But if they expand the functionality or drop the price a bit, it might be something I'd consider.

Games in the queues sounds like a good idea, so long as we're not talking about making waiting areas into themed arcades that guests would have to pay extra to play. I can't imagine many parents would be happy with Disney setting up a situation where the kids nag for quarters/tokens the entire time they're in line for an attraction! But something more along the lines of some of the Innoventions attractions or the little game on the way down from SSE would be a cool way to pass the time.

Wristbands, though? Why mess with something that isn't broken? I would HATE wearing a wristband all day in the sticky FL heat, not to mention the potential hassles of swimming, waterparking, and showering with it on. Why not just code the same information into an upgraded KTTW and keep it in card format?

 

[jade1]

Offsite wouldn't be an issue if they used this system. Fastpasses were a part of the MYW base tickets, so everyone would get at least three. I don't know how they'd handle annual pass holders though.

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Yea I got that part, I was referring to AP holders, off site and locals. I see you don't know either-seems like a big question right? I can picture an AP holder calling WDW and saying they will be down in a month for 1 week at the Hilton-so do they just believe them and give them access to the 3 FP website? I guess if they didn't show up, the lines would just move faster. Same as an onsite guest not showing up I guess, or a local AP holder.