Monorails to no longer operate during Evening Extra Magic Hours

[nytimez]

Then we'll change it to "pass the same longitude as Hawaii occupies." Does that satisfy your pedantic sweet tooth?

If you prefer to resort to insults, neither me nor my teeth will stoop to your level.

 

[kaytieeldr]

It's like that for most of October, Disneyworld October 2011 calendarand I bet most of December with the Christmas parties ( I didn't check those )...

I think I counted ten party nights each in November (one MNSSHP) and December, and of course one EMH at each park each week.

Your wording is particularly egregious. It's unfortunate?! It's unfortunate that consumers realize when they're being ripped off?! No. It would be unfortunate if we all just submitted and accepted it without question.

Wow. Good thing the world isn't ending, or at least that the monorail isn't being taken offline all day every day for any period of time. You actually consider alternate transportation equivalent to being ripped off? I consider $3.80 for a gallon of gas a rip-off. I consider downsizing tuna cans to five ounces with no price cut a rip-off. I consider (at least one company) downsizing gallons of milk to three quarts a rip-off. But replacing one form of transportation with another? Hardly.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Then we'll change it to "pass the same longitude as Hawaii occupies." Does that satisfy your pedantic sweet tooth?

Why are you being so snarky to nytimez?

 

[mom2rtk]

I think I counted ten party nights each in November (one MNSSHP) and December, and of course one EMH at each park each week.

Unless someone stays the entire month of December, either it will affect their trip in a very big way, or a very small way. The fact there are no parties the week AFTER we're there has no bearing on our dates. I'm not sure why everyone continues to throw stuff like this out there.

 

[phinz]

If you prefer to resort to insults, neither me nor my teeth will stoop to your level.

edit: Never mind.

 

[DonaldDoleWhip]

I think I counted ten party nights each in November (one MNSSHP) and December, and of course one EMH at each park each week.

Wow. Good thing the world isn't ending, or at least that the monorail isn't being taken offline all day every day for any period of time. You actually consider alternate transportation equivalent to being ripped off? I consider $3.80 for a gallon of gas a rip-off. I consider downsizing tuna cans to five ounces with no price cut a rip-off. I consider (at least one company) downsizing gallons of milk to three quarts a rip-off. But replacing one form of transportation with another? Hardly.

It's not rocket science. The bus is a downgrade compared to the monorail. There's a reason why the deluxes without monorail are cheaper than the deluxes with monorail.

 

[flicx]

I would think that after a few thousand responses that this shouldn't be viewed as anything but a downgrade,cutback etc.It obviously is a big big deal to alot of people.When you have people who have changed there hotel to a non monorail because of it, it would appear to a cutback and a very big deal!Attention attention Mr.Iger!!!!

 

[Planogirl]

Question for the forum-

Would you stay at a monorail resort (Polynesian, Contemporary, and Grand Floridian) if the monorail service was shut down? Let's say the prices stayed the same for each resort. You would also have to take the boat/ferry/bus to get to the other parks.

Thanks!
Brunette

I would if the price is right. My problem is that the price is never right even when the monorail runs normally.

Truthfully, I guess that the buses don't bother me much but then I like the Polynesian Resort and prefer the ferry or resort launches and otherwise I prefer to drive. You're likely to see less value in a commodity if you don't really use it.

 

[puntagordabob]

It's unfortunate that people staying in the Magic Kingdom-area resorts aren't willing to tolerate buses for five or ten minutes, two or three nights.

lol

So, would you not consider Disney removing all options at a buffet and replacing them with chicken fingers and fries for the last hour or two of the night a cutback? It's a change in the type of food, no? Of course, they still will be charging their regular prices, because after all, it's just a change.

What I think is unfortunate is that people who pay incredibly inflated prices for the MK resorts are being made to feel like elitist snobs because they want to receive what they pay for. Also, it's unfortunate that people choose to ignore this has the potential to effect much much more then a couple EMH nights.

Full disclosure, I have never and don't plan on staying at an MK area resort, yet this still bothers me.

+1 !!!

You actually consider alternate transportation equivalent to being ripped off? I consider $3.80 for a gallon of gas a rip-off. I consider downsizing tuna cans to five ounces with no price cut a rip-off. I consider (at least one company) downsizing gallons of milk to three quarts a rip-off. But replacing one form of transportation with another? Hardly.

 

[Planogirl]

So if the Epcot monorail also shuts down early because the resort monorail does then what about those who park at MK and then take the monorail over to Epcot in the evening? We've certainly done that often enough. I suppose that the resort bus will also stop at the parking lot?

 

[smidgy]

A cutback is when a service is no longer offered in any form. That's not the case here. Transportation will still be available all the hours (and beyond) the parks are open; it'll just be by bus some of those hours instead of by monorail.
Change, not cutback.

.

can't believe I'm going to disagree with you, katy, but here goes.

after 18 trips to WDW, we are FINALLY staying at a monorail resort.... my dream! note: I said "MONORAIL" resort. we will be renting points from friends a BLT. would rather be at Poly, but, heck, I am excited to FINALLY be at a MONORAIL resort!!!
I am NOT a snob.. don't mind buses in the lightest. have stood on many a bus trip. hubby, with his 5 surgeries later bum foot, usually stands on buses. we LOVE that disney transports us, (however they do) and we don't have to sorry about driving. we can have some adult cocktails. we don't have to worry about getting lost.

we have have enjoyed WALKING or boating "home" to the Dolphin, BWVm, or, most recently Beach club villas, (which was the BEST!!)

however, I still always wanted to stay at a MONORAIL resort. .. now... how ironic.. that we finally are doing that! and may end up taking a bus back from epcot anyway.

yes, yes, I know disney only promises "transportation". blah blah blah.

we are doing a split stay between BLT and AKV. have planned all our Mk and Epcot days for the days we will be USING the monorail, since we are FINAlly STAYING AT A MONORAIL RESORT! going to water parks, DHS, and AK during our AKV stay.

Is it the "end of the world"???? no. does it suck??? YES!!!!



In my opinion, it is NOT just a change, it IS a CUTBACK of services.

 

[TLSnell1981]

What I think is unfortunate is that people who pay incredibly inflated prices for the MK resorts are being made to feel like elitist snobs because they want to receive what they pay for. Also, it's unfortunate that people choose to ignore this has the potential to effect much much more then a couple EMH nights.
.

Meh, they can name call, all they want..doesnt make it true. Doesnt bother me either.

And, yes...this is part of a bigger picture.

It's not rocket science. The bus is a downgrade compared to the monorail. There's a reason why the deluxes without monorail are cheaper than the deluxes with monorail.

Too bad common sense, isn't very common.

 

[smidgy]

The CR and the TTC.... why do I suspect that the lines will be not a lot of fun...

yeah, whoopee! a lot of guests will have parked at MK , and hopped to epcot. even if they aren't staying on property, they canhang around after during EMH. there will be TONS of guests trying to get back to the TTC, both off property, and those on property guests who chose to drive to MK and park hop.

and those of us who booked at the CR for "EASE of transportation, due to the monorail" will be stuck in horrendous lines.

go figure, the first time in all these years we book a monorail resort......

 

[Planogirl]

yeah, whoopee! a lot of guests will have parked at MK , and hopped to epcot. even if they aren't staying on property, they canhang around after during EMH. there will be TONS of guests trying to get back to the TTC, both off property, and those on property guests who chose to drive to MK and park hop.

and those of us who booked at the CR for "EASE of transportation, due to the monorail" will be stuck in horrendous lines.

go figure, the first time in all these years we book a monorail resort......

And we might be stuck in long lines just for trying to get back to our car. Maybe that's what we get for driving and even worse staying offsite...

 

[rie'smom]

A cutback is when a service is no longer offered in any form. That's not the case here. Transportation will still be available all the hours (and beyond) the parks are open; it'll just be by bus some of those hours instead of by monorail.
Change, not cutback.

Then you would have to believe an über-successful company like Walt Disney World has a single, lump-sum, general budget line item called "improvements and stuff". I've never seen an annual report, but I can tell you they don't.
While it's your opinion the accountants neglected to properly fund maintaining/upgrading the monorail system, it's my opinion that it's not the funding at all - it's there - but the guest outcry.

Look at this thread. Granted, some of the posts/pages have strayed varying degrees off-topic, but a number of posters are upset that there may be a night or four/five when they'll have to take a bus or boat, or walk, to their resort instead of being able to use the monorail. Now try to imagine the reaction if the system had to shut down for X weeks or months? Maybe the problem isn't the trains - maybe it's the tracks.

cut·back [kuht-bak] –noun
1: something cut back
2: reduction ex cutback in funding, services
Since Disney won't be running the monorail as many hours, it is a reduction in service, so it is a cutback.

 

[brunette8706]

It's not rocket science. The bus is a downgrade compared to the monorail. There's a reason why the deluxes without monorail are cheaper than the deluxes with monorail.

*
Agreed. The WL is a gorgeous resort but it's substantially less expensive than say the Polynesian. But, your right the Polynesian, even though a much older hotel, is much higher priced than the WL because it is on the monorail system. People love the convenience of a cool transportation mode and being dropped off steps away from the hotel lobby.

 

[Zeppelin]

cut·back [kuht-bak] –noun
1: something cut back
2: reduction ex cutback in funding, services
Since Disney won't be running the monorail as many hours, it is a reduction in service, so it is a cutback.

if you are at a bar and pay for a Heineken but the bartender delivers a can of Meister Brau or Schlitz to you, is that a reduction?? a cutback???

yes- some people prefer meister brau and/or schlitz but they don'twant to pay Heineken prices for it....

 

[brunette8706]

if you are at a bar and pay for a Heineken but the bartender delivers a can of Meister Brau or Schlitz to you, is that a reduction?? a cutback???

yes- some people prefer meister brau and/or schlitz but they don'twant to pay Heineken prices for it....

*

 

[TLSnell1981]

if you are at a bar and pay for a Heineken but the bartender delivers a can of Meister Brau or Schlitz to you, is that a reduction?? a cutback???

.

Might be, a bar fight.

 

[Zeppelin]

yeah, whoopee! a lot of guests will have parked at MK , and hopped to epcot. even if they aren't staying on property, they canhang around after during EMH. there will be TONS of guests trying to get back to the TTC, both off property, and those on property guests who chose to drive to MK and park hop.

and those of us who booked at the CR for "EASE of transportation, due to the monorail" will be stuck in horrendous lines.

go figure, the first time in all these years we book a monorail resort......

and right here is a perfect example of why many (including me) stay as "monorail" resorts...

the first time we stayed overnight at WDW with my daughter she was 1.5 years old and we stayed at the CR- after the fireworks, as the park was closing the line for the monorail back to the CR was fractional compared to the general line- we were literally back in our hotel room, showered, and in bed- yet as i looked out our room window and could still see the line of people waiting for the monorail on the general line....