Mom on Trial - Leaves child in Car for minutes

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She probably shouldn't have left the child in the car unattended but Jail Time? :confused: I have to disagree with that one.


CHICAGO — Treffly Coyne was out of her car for just minutes and no more than 10 yards away.

But that was long and far enough to land her in court after a police officer spotted her sleeping 2-year-old daughter alone in the vehicle; Coyne had taken her two older daughters to pour $8.29 in coins into a Salvation Army kettle.

Minutes later, she was under arrest — the focus of both a police investigation and a probe by the state's child welfare agency. Now the case that has become an Internet flash point for people who either blast police for overstepping their authority or Coyne for putting a child in danger.

The 36-year-old suburban mother is preparing to go on trial Thursday on misdemeanor charges of child endangerment and obstructing a peace officer. If convicted, she could be sentenced to a year in jail and fined $2,500, even though child welfare workers found no credible evidence of abuse or neglect.

On Dec. 8 Coyne decided to drive to Wal-Mart in the Chicago suburb of Crestwood so her children and a young friend could donate the coins they'd collected at her husband's office.

Even as she buckled 2-year-old Phoebe into the car, the girl was asleep. When Coyne arrived at the store, she found a spot to park in a loading zone, right behind someone tying a Christmas tree onto a car.

"It's sleeting out, it's not pleasant, I don't want to disturb her, wake her up," Coyne said this week. "It was safer to leave her in the safety and warmth of an alarmed car than take her."

So Coyne switched on the emergency flashers, locked the car, activated the alarm and walked the other children to the bell ringer.

She snapped a few pictures of the girls donating money and headed back to the car. But a community service officer blocked her way.

"She was on a tirade, she was yelling at me," Coyne said. The officer, Coyne said, didn't want to hear about how close Coyne was, how she never set foot inside the store and was just there to let the kids donate money, or how she could always see her car.

Coyne telephoned her husband, Tim Janecyk, who advised her not to say anything else to police until he arrived. So Coyne declined to talk further, refusing even to tell police her child's name.

When Janecyk pulled up, his wife already was handcuffed, sitting in a patrol car.

Crestwood Police Chief Timothy Sulikowski declined to comment about the case. But he did not dispute the contention that Coyne parked nearby or was away from her car for just a few minutes.

He did, however, suggest Coyne put her child at risk.

"A minute or two, that's when things can happen," he said.

Talk about the case has intensified, particularly online, where bloggers are weighing in on various message boards.

Many have harsh words for the police department, calling the arrest of a mother who left her child in a locked car for a few minutes an abuse of authority.

Yet statistics show thousands of children are injured and dozens die every year after being left unattended near or inside vehicles.

"I am talking tens of thousands of people who leave their kids in the car for any period of time all around America," said Janette Fennell, founder and president of Kansas-based Kids and Cars. "People don't appreciate the dangers of leaving a child alone in the car."

Coyne's attorney, Michelle Forbes, argued that Coyne did not break the law any more than a mother who parks in front of a school in a rainstorm and leaves an infant in the car as she runs a few feet to pick up another child.

"As long as the car is not out of her sight, then the child is not unattended," she said.

Coyne and her husband believe she is unfairly being lumped in with parents who put their children's lives at risk.

"If I were going on a shopping spree then, yes, I would deserve arrest," Coyne said. "I was standing right there. I never went into the store.

"I'm a great parent."
 
Definitely abuse of police power, IMHO.

I totally disagree that what she did was child endangerment.
 
Last Friday, a woman left her infant and her 3 year old alone in the mini-van while she shopped in our PetSmart. Another shopper came in and reported it to our manager, and the police were called. After the 911 call, we paged over the intercom that two children were alone in the car. The woman was at the register, all her things on the belt and she ran out-just in time to meet the officer.

Here's the payoff-she had locked her KEYS in the car!!! The officer had to coach the 3 year old to get the doors open.

We were told that she will be cited for child endangerment. The officer came in to ask our manager to estimate how long she was in the store. The employees on duty think she was there about 30 minutes.

Now, I'm not a parent-but I would think that leaving a 3 year old and an infant in a car WITH THE KEYS is just about as terminally stupid as you can get.
 
"A minute or two, that's when things can happen," he said.
I disagree. The vast majority of injuries/deaths due to leaving a child unattended in a car happen because the child is left in the car for a prolonged period of time.
 

Last Friday, a woman left her infant and her 3 year old alone in the mini-van while she shopped in our PetSmart. Another shopper came in and reported it to our manager, and the police were called. After the 911 call, we paged over the intercom that two children were alone in the car. The woman was at the register, all her things on the belt and she ran out-just in time to meet the officer.

Here's the payoff-she had locked her KEYS in the car!!! The officer had to coach the 3 year old to get the doors open.

We were told that she will be cited for child endangerment. The officer came in to ask our manager to estimate how long she was in the store. The employees on duty think she was there about 30 minutes.

Now, I'm not a parent-but I would think that leaving a 3 year old and an infant in a car WITH THE KEYS is just about as terminally stupid as you can get.
Leaving the kids to go shopping is a totally different thing, IMO.

Purposely leaving small children in a car with the keys locked inside is definitely stupid. :sad2:
 
That's insane. People leave their children in cars to die and they don't go to jail. I do have to say I'm not sure she could be convicted of abandonment or whatever, if the car was in sight. Are we not allowed to leave our children in the car while we pump gas? Or leave them in the car while we run back into the house to get something?
 
That's insane. People leave their children in cars to die and they don't go to jail. I do have to say I'm not sure she could be convicted of abandonment or whatever, if the car was in sight. Are we not allowed to leave our children in the car while we pump gas? Or leave them in the car while we run back into the house to get something?

I thought the same thing. I actually take my children out of the car if I have to pay inside, but if I'm paying at the pump they stay inside the car. Granted, this woman walked away from her child and someone could have taken her or the car, but I'm not sure she deserves jailtime. She should probably get a slap on the wrist and perhaps a small fine but I don't think she deserves to be put behind bars.
 
That's ridiculous, the police are definitely overstepping their bounds. If she had gone into the store, or had even had the van out of her sight, I would have agreed with the charges, but the mother could still see the car. If anything had happened, she could have easily sprinted over there. If your kids are playing outside at home, do they have to within 10 yards of you?
 
Last Friday, a woman left her infant and her 3 year old alone in the mini-van while she shopped in our PetSmart. Another shopper came in and reported it to our manager, and the police were called. After the 911 call, we paged over the intercom that two children were alone in the car. The woman was at the register, all her things on the belt and she ran out-just in time to meet the officer.

Here's the payoff-she had locked her KEYS in the car!!! The officer had to coach the 3 year old to get the doors open.

We were told that she will be cited for child endangerment. The officer came in to ask our manager to estimate how long she was in the store. The employees on duty think she was there about 30 minutes.

Now, I'm not a parent-but I would think that leaving a 3 year old and an infant in a car WITH THE KEYS is just about as terminally stupid as you can get.

Well, I know a woman who accidently left her baby in the car, while going into a petstore with her 4 very young children and dog. She hadn't been getting a lot of sleep, her DH is in Iraq, and she wasn't used to having a baby. A couple of minutes later, she realized she forgot her purse, and her baby, and ran out, only to be told that the police had been called. DYFS stepped in, and she had to go to court, but she was cleared.
 
I leave my kids in the car all the time, I have too. When its -20* out there is no way I'm dragging all 3 kids at a time out to the car to wait out in the snow while I open the doors, turn the heat on... no no no no no.. sorry. I go out start the car, wait for it to warm up (yes illegal to do in some places not mine) take ONE kid at a time out, go back in get another, ect. If I forget something you bet they are staying in the car no WAY am I getting all 3 out to go back in the house for 2 seconds.
 
:eek: Lock me up...I don't know how I'm not on America's Most Wanted yet. I leave my 2 boys in the car every morning while I take my daughter INSIDE her daycare. (Even though I park right by the door & have to take a mere 10 steps to put her in her teacher's lap.)

Please tell me there's more to this story. If not, then I am completely on the mother's side. I know there are far too many stories about parents who leave their kids in the car for a long amount of time and/or in dangerous weather, but it appears to me that she was right there the whole time. I realize that it only takes a few seconds for something bad to happen, but it doesn't sound like this situation would fall under the category of "neglect."

Maybe I'm just used to my small town. I've never lived in a big city, so maybe I'm just a little more trusting than others. I still think that there has to be something more to this story. :confused3 Then, again, maybe I'm wrong. :confused3
 
I just saw that online before I left work...it's ridiculous!! She was in plain sight of the car at all time and that sleeping child was in no danger.
 
I think they're definitely making a mountain out of a mole hill here. There is a big difference between leaving your child alone in a car while you go in the store shopping, or your at the casino gambling, or your going out to dinner than leaving your sleeping child in the car seat while you dump a bunch of coins in a container 10 feet away. If the police can't tell the difference then I'm going to wonder about their judgement more than the mom's.
 
Anyone else find it extremely ironic that the entire situation happened because the mother was showing the kids the spirit of GIVING to those in need?

Holy cow, no good deed goes unpunished indeed.
 
I thought the same thing. I actually take my children out of the car if I have to pay inside, but if I'm paying at the pump they stay inside the car. Granted, this woman walked away from her child and someone could have taken her or the car, but I'm not sure she deserves jailtime. She should probably get a slap on the wrist and perhaps a small fine but I don't think she deserves to be put behind bars.
I did the same thing when my kids were younger & would pay at the pump - they stayed in the car. In fact, I would specifically go to a gas station that you could pay right at the pump. There are many more now than there were 18 years ago (or so it seems :goodvibes ).

I think it would be more dangerous to have them out of the car at a gas station than to leave them in it.

I don't think what the woman did was wrong. The officer is abusing his power.
 
Granted, this woman walked away from her child and someone could have taken her or the car, but I'm not sure she deserves jailtime. .

The article says the car was alarmed and locked. Now, I'll admit that when I hear a car alarm go off I don't immediately look around and wonder what mischief is going on-- I keep going on my merry way. But If I'd alarmed my car with my 2yr old in it and heard an alarm going off, I'd have my butt back to the car PRONTO, and I think this woman would have too. I honestly don't think anyone could have taken her child, and I don't think the child could do any harm to itself if she were properly strapped into her car seat.. :confused3

(BTW, not a parent so maybe car seats aren't as secure as I'm thinking?)
 
I see parents at the school leaving their smaller children to watch dvd's while they wait for their other children in front of the building. I myself would not do this but I can see that it happens alot. This is a private school with people that should know better. The reason I don't put to much into it is the parents are close by. Does it make it right??? I guess the difference is the people that go shopping or are totally away from the car. That is wrong. I think having her handcuffed in a police car with her children watching is a little severe. My thought is go down to the inner cities where small children are left home alone on a daily basis. Protect the children who live in filth with no food. What about the ones that are abused? I think the system needs to evaluate what are the real crimes.
 
Definitely abuse of police power, IMHO.

I totally disagree that what she did was child endangerment.

:thumbsup2 I agree, totally over the top. Soon they will arrest parents for putting a child in a crib and going to sleep at night.
 
Using your car as a day care center while you do other things = bad.

Not taking a child out of the car when it's never out of your sight and you're gone for all of two minutes = practical.

The officer in this case = stupid.
 












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