MNNSHP- without ticket

[tjmw2727]

What about the people like me that paid a full day admission to MK, but the park closes 3 hours early because of the xmas party. Should I get a discount on that day? I can watch the fireworks from right outside the gates if everyone is so worried about it. I am more upset about losing 3 hours of my day.

To the person who kept telling people to "get your fact straight before you post." Chill out. You pay your price, I will stay until told to leave and we will all be happy.

We are not "common" guest we are equal. I spend much more for food and gifts just before we leave than the cost to stay. We have made 4 trips in less than 30 months so I feel I have taken care of WDW plenty on the monetary end.

Ahh but MK dosen't close early for the party, it just doesn't stay open late! FWIW, this isn't just for hard ticket events like MVMCP or MSSHP, NOJ or Grad night but during the slower season as well. All the published material will show the park closing at 7pm so there should be no surprise. If you want a longer day at MK check the guide maps for the week and plan your MK on a day when it has extended hours or EMH. Regardless of how many times you visit, how many souvies you buy if you don't have a ticket you are not entitled to be at the event.

TJ

 

[gabbyrosebud]

I think the CM's do a good job getting people out of the park. We saw very few people walking around without wristbands and when we DID see someone we told the nearest CM. So if you try to sneak in better stay clear of me.

Good for you! I was planning to do the same thing.

 

[Lil' Grumpy]

quit your barking at me...must be your friend? if anything, it is the reverse.
we paid our monies...to be there. there is no way to ignored the cm waving
people out. the friend made the choice to stay...and in doing so stole
privileges that others paid for..why didn't the friend go outside the gate and
watch the parade /fireworks instead of stealing spaces, to those that did
paid?

i gave input because we paid and i disagreed with the rationizations.


there's a code at the air force academy..."i will not lie, cheat, or steal..
nor tolerate anyone who does...

 

[bradyloganmom]

OK, but the park hours are posted with the correct closing time. It's not like the hours are posted as open until 10:00 then all of a sudden at 7:00 they are being told to leave. The park closes at 7:00 you have to leave.

We spent Friday, 10/20 at MK until 7 p.m. As we approached the turnstsiles to enter and after entering at 9:10 a.m. there were SEVERAL sandwich boards advertising that the park closed at 7 :00 p.m. that night.

We attended the party on 10/17 and at 7 p.m. in Fantasyland people were turned away from riding the carousel and at 7:10 p.m. a rather large group was turned away from the restrooms near Ariel's Grotto because they didn't have wristbands. We spent 6:30 to 7:30 p.m. in fantasyland and CM's were EVERYWHERE!!!

 

[tjmw2727]

quit your barking at me...must be your friend? if anything, it is the reverse.
we paid our monies...to be there. there is no way to ignored the cm waving
people out. the friend made the choice to stay...and in doing so stole
privileges that others paid for..why didn't the friend go outside the gate and
watch the parade /fireworks instead of stealing spaces, to those that did
paid?

i gave input because we paid and i disagreed with the rationizations.


there's a code at the air force academy..."i will not lie, cheat, or steal..
nor tolerate anyone who does...

I am not barking at anyone and no I don't know the OP or her friend.

If you had read the thread you will see that I did pay for our party on the 5th and had a wonderful time. I also mentioned I thought it was very well run and was happy to show my wristband when asked.

Its one thing to give "input" its another to call someone names and accuse them of stealing, especially of stealing the camera. IMHO that was just plain wrong.

TJ

 

[orljustin]

We were getting in line for Dumbo on 10/12 at 6:45, and people were turned away because they wouldn't be able to ride before 7pm.

 

[mickeyfan2]

What about the people like me that paid a full day admission to MK, but the park closes 3 hours early because of the xmas party. Should I get a discount on that day? I can watch the fireworks from right outside the gates if everyone is so worried about it. I am more upset about losing 3 hours of my day.

To the person who kept telling people to "get your fact straight before you post." Chill out. You pay your price, I will stay until told to leave and we will all be happy.

We are not "common" guest we are equal. I spend much more for food and gifts just before we leave than the cost to stay. We have made 4 trips in less than 30 months so I feel I have taken care of WDW plenty on the monetary end.

You paid for 9 am - 7 pm. That his what you paid for, what you are entitled and what you received!!!! By this same reasoning, if I left the park for two hours I should be entitled to to extra hours tomorrow, since I paid for a full day and did not actually get it.

"You pay your price, I will stay until told to leave and we will all be happy." I would love to be watching when your so happy family is told no food, no gifts and no restrooms, because you are suppose to be outside.

 

[mickeyfan2]

Wow - Grumpy, do yourself a favor and re-read the thread, I think you misunderstood. I don't see anyone posting that it is ok to stay for the party without a ticket including the OP.

I understood the OP to be just as concerned that the friend got away with it as most of us are. I haven't read any posts on this thread that say "I am going to stay for free". Those of us who are questioning if we should pay for tickets or not are simply deciding between paying and going or not going at all, not staying without a ticket.

I would consider an apology for calling the OP a liar and a theif especially the slightly masked accusation that she/he stole a camera from another diser.

TJ

Look at post #60.

 

[tjmw2727]

Look at post #60.

Oops - sorry I stand corrected, one poster and stil not myself or the OP! Since Grumpy's post was #58 he/she couldn't have been commenting on #60 anyway so I standby my opinions.

TJ

 

[freediverdude]

Wow. I don't even know where to start on Lil' Grumpy's post. I guess I'll just state for the record:

-both myself and my co-worker agree that people without tickets should not be allowed to stay

-my co-worker went on vacation there, and told me (and I agreed that it would be interesting to find out), that she would casually try to stay in MK for the fireworks and parade without purchasing a ticket, just as a test to see how difficult they were making it to do that.

- I did purchase a ticket myself and attended the first party on Sept. 15th. (My first ever, and enjoyed it immensely.)

-my co-worker's first name is Bobbie, and InstImpres rented her DVC points and talked to her at one point. She is a real person.

-She did not take any of the candy.

I hope this clears up some of the misunderstandings. I personally think they should go back to the old way of clearing the park first, because it eliminated any confusion. But I guess we'll see what happens. Apparently not that many people are crashing the party- at least not yet.

 

[joeytiffany118]

My family consist of me and my wife. This is not a slow time for MK. The week of Thnaksgiving is one of it's busiest times, but they do the xmas party then and close at 7:00 that crazy. I understand the stated hours are until 7, but I do not feel that a second charge should be allowed for something on the same day for the same park. Should you be recharged for each park you park in if you change parks during the day? Of course not. If I stay, or am ask to leave I will and not be disappointed, but either way I will let "guest" services know what I think. At 40 bucks a person to keep the park open to normal hours is crazy and from the reviews I have heard a real waste anyway. I know I will get flamed, but I care not. I have convienced many people to vacation to WDW and My wife and I will buy DVC as soon as we can. Nothing is going to deter me from Disney, but would Walt himself charged extra for something like this? NO WAY

 

[G&J's Mom]

a rather large group was turned away from the restrooms near Ariel's Grotto because they didn't have wristbands. We spent 6:30 to 7:30 p.m. in fantasyland and CM's were EVERYWHERE!!!

Yikes! They wouldn't even let them tee tee??? Now that is enforcement at its finest!!!

Denise

 

[finnster77]

I am concerned about how easy the wristbands might be to duplicate. (I haven't seen one yet.) Our state fair uses a wristband system to ride the midway rides and people have been known to duplicate that night's current "color" and sneak into the attractions without paying.

 

[finnster77]

My family consist of me and my wife. This is not a slow time for MK. The week of Thnaksgiving is one of it's busiest times, but they do the xmas party then and close at 7:00 that crazy. I understand the stated hours are until 7, but I do not feel that a second charge should be allowed for something on the same day for the same park. Should you be recharged for each park you park in if you change parks during the day? Of course not. If I stay, or am ask to leave I will and not be disappointed, but either way I will let "guest" services know what I think. At 40 bucks a person to keep the park open to normal hours is crazy and from the reviews I have heard a real waste anyway. I know I will get flamed, but I care not. I have convienced many people to vacation to WDW and My wife and I will buy DVC as soon as we can. Nothing is going to deter me from Disney, but would Walt himself charged extra for something like this? NO WAY

So if you're at a theater, should you be allowed to stay in your seat and watch the movie a second time without paying?

 

[mom2my3kids]

You know the only time someone asked to see my wristband was when we got in line for face painting other then that never did they ask. But we had short sleeve shirts on so maybe they could see them. Everyone I seen had wristbands on. We had a blast.. I would go back in a heartbeat..

 

[ReallyFunMom]

Most have reported relatively few people not wearing wrist bands. I think it will have minimal affect on your ability to enjoy things. I was there on Sept 29th when it sold out. Let's say you've gone in Sept before and experienced a MNSSHP with 20,000 attending and 50 cheaters that avoided the clearing. Say now that Disney is so popular, you attend MNSSHP with 30,000 attending and the clearing issue allows 500 cheaters to attend. I bet the extra 10,000 with wristbands will affect your time more than the extra 450 cheaters. I can't stand cheaters either and thing we should report them but I'm not sure its worth getting all worked up about.

The parties may not be a good value for those that have access during the day, there are definate cost/reward tradeoffs that I think are more important than the crashers issue. They may be a one time thing for me, one year MNSSHP and some other year MVMCP, just to experience them.

We might appreciate we get to "crash" the day guests time by arriving at 4pm instead of 7pm. I think that is a very nice perk.

 

[joeytiffany118]

Finnster77, I never thought of that!!

I really think the thing that bothers me is that they want 40.00 a person to do the same thing I already paid entrance for into the parks. If the 40.00 came with a meal or something to that nature like the MNSSHP I would say it was justified, but the xmas party comes with nothing more than extra hours. For the 80 it would cost me to stay for a couple of hours we could go to Sea World or Universal. That night we will probably go to city walk and have a great dinner at Jimmy Buffett's, shop, and maybe a movie. It would not cost us 80 bucks.

So, I just feel charging for a park I am already in is crazy. Turning people away from aline they are in because they will not be on by 7:00 is not fair either. It should be like a store. If you are in line before 7:00PM you get your one ride.

The person who got me was the one who called me a common guest and made themselves seem better than me because they are paying to stay. I spend to much every 6 months or so to be called common. Am I common because I stay offsite? I think I was defensive only because of people with tickets on here think they are so much better and want to be the Disney police about things.

Good point though.

 

[TravelinGal]

COMMON

Main Entry: 1com·mon
Pronunciation: 'kä-m&n
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English commun, from Anglo-French, from Latin communis 1 a : of or relating to a community at large : PUBLIC

I don't think the poster was implying those who pay for the daily park admission are any less special than a guest who paid for a hard ticket event.
If one does something for the common good is it inferior or considered falling below ordinary standards? I think not. English is a complex language - one might want to consider all options/definitions of the word before taking offense.

 

[joeytiffany118]

Read the thread. the person did state as everyone without a ticket was common and they were special.

 

[mickaholic4077]

Very entertaining read,people-if this is all that you have to moan about,then consider yourselves lucky!!