MNNSHP- without ticket

[Cookie55]

Nope and for this very reason I just may not go.... It burns me up to see other folks doing this and if Disney is going to allow it then I will feel ripped off!

I have gone to the party for years and felt like the 'herding' into one land and the closing of the park, shops etc for the FULL hour was fairly effective. This new method seems to be very ineffective and I think in December when it's cold and folks have on sweatshirts etc the "armband" check is going to be very hard to accomplish!

I agree!! I will be going to MVMCP this year as I already have tix however, I too think the "enforcement" will become MUCH more difficult when the evenings are cooler. This will be my fourth MVMCP and I have never gone on more than about two rides at any of the parties. I concentrate on the things that are exclusive to the party...the parades, fireworks, cookies, free picture and the holiday shows. I find that leaves little time for anything else. If there are people there without wristbands who are "just" hanging around for the parade and the fireworks they are significantly affecting my enjoyment of the party. It gets plenty crowded on party nights on Main Street with just the paid partygoers due to the number of tickets Disney sells. This may sound petty but I intend to become part of the "Disney police" and if there is someone next to me that doesn't have a wristband I will let a CM know. In the event they do nothing you can be sure I will be visiting City Hall on my way out of the party!!!

 

[cobbler]

Like the previous poster and Carol I will see how it goes this year.

This will be our 4th MVMCP and we go as well for the fireworks, parades, cookies, merchandise, free photo as well.

Since they have already done away with the free photo and if day guests can still linger I won't be going next year.

It does sadden me because I love MVMCP. Hopefully it won't be so bad.

 

[dgaston]

I have to say that I had a great time at MNSSHP on 10/16. I felt attendance was very light, and DH and I were able to do everything we wanted. CMs were vigilant about checking wristbands, and we heard frequent announcements about the park closing for a special event and ticket availability prior to 7 pm. I will gladly pay for special events in the future. As for showing Hallowishes on regular nights, I think it's a great show and am glad everyone has a chance to see it.

 

[iwynlea]

Although the OP's friend may have gotten away with it, I can tell you that at the two parties I attended this year (10/2 and 10/5), CMs were very active in checking our wristbands at the hub, on main street, at the entrance to every trick-or-treat line and ride. We did not mind in the slightest being asked over and over again to show the wristbands, and I was glad to see they were being so active. It did slow down as the night went on, and I don't think after 10pm either night we were asked to show the wristbands once, although I did notice several CMs looking down (I assume at my wrist) to see if we had the wristbands on.

On Main St and in the Hub the CMs were holding up these ghost signs, and the ghosts all had wristbands on, and I asked one of them what they were for, and he said to let everyone know you MUST have a wristband to stay in the park tonight (it was about 7:30 or 7:45pm).

 

[nicknamy1996]

Right now as a result of this MESS, I am seriously considering NOT buying tickets to MVMCP.

Disney got GREEDY... they want the regular guests to stay and spend for that extra hour instead of doing what they have successfully done in the past. So I hope that they get the $40 worth of spending from the guests to replace the tickets and OTHER things those of us who decide this isn't worth it don't spend.

1) This one is not Disney greed, because they do not get a nickle out of the guests who stay longer. You can't shop or eat at all.

Which was my only gripe about the thing. We were not told upon entering the park that it would be closing early (I knew they would from planning, but just defending anybody who didn't know ahead of time) We were not warned by any of the CM as the day progressed, and we almost always finish our day at MK with 2 things on Main St. 1) either a waffle cone or a snack at Casey's and 2) I can't get my wife out without buying a souvenir from the Emporium. We did our last ride (BTMM) and started walking towards the front of the park. We were never asked about wrist bands but we also didn't stop until Casey's. I saw the CMs at the door of Casey's and asked if we needed a wrist band to eat. He said yes, well actually he said "the park is closed", and we moved on, no big deal.

Again it was not a big deal as we knew we would be doing MK 3 or 4 times this trip, but we talked about it as we went back to the hotel. We always eat and shop "after the park is closed" this was the first time in years we had to do the whole "herding" on to the monorail or boat after closing. IT SUCKED! I would have loved to have ate or shopped for 30 mins then filed out, but if they allow that I guess it just gets the 'cheaters' that much closer to the parade and firework times. I can't imagine how upset we would have been if that was our last night at WDW and we were not allowed our "night cap".

So do/did the 'cheaters' (if you will) actually screw the honest people who usually stick around for 20 or 30 minutes after the park closes.

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My take on the MNNSHP

As we were planning the trip I pretty much got my decision on whether or not to go from the good ol DisBoards. We came up with a "no" and instead spent the $170 on shopping (which by the way was our total at the liquidation sale which equaled about $570 worth of stuff (by Disney prices that is)) Anyway, after what we saw that night I am glad we decided not to go! (again thanks to the Dis) As we walked out it was INSANE the number of people walking in. We have been February people and have been spoiled, I could not believe the number of people! As we were walking to the front we saw a couple of candy stations (I don't think they weren't open yet) and a free face painting line that must have had 40 kids in it already. I can't imagine how long it was going to take to get through that line, my kids would not have waited for that. There were some extra decorations (inflatables) and Main St. was lit up pretty cool. The lack of lines for the rides would be nice but they were not an issue all trip anyway so that was not a loss. The fireworks... honestly how different can they be and like others said you can watch them from a lot of places on property. The candy... don't need it, yes they kids would have had fun, but they are too hyper as it is and that means mom and dad eat the candy and we don't need it either. Definitely the thing that sounded like the most fun and we all would have liked to have seen was the parade. And who know someday we might have even figured the parade was worth the 160-170 dollars, but after seeing the mobs of people I'm pretty sure we wouldn't do it for free. In fact I know we wouldn't, we always bail when the parks get too crowded and with the way it was looking that night I'm sure my wife an I would have made it til about 8 and we would have given each other the old "lets get the heck out of here" look.


My closing thought... If you 1) don't mind the crowds and 2) do NOT have a ticket to cover that day or are just doing 1 day at WDW (MK that is) Buy the ticket and get is as early as they allow. You will get your value out of it by doing the rides (assuming there would be no waits) and the parades and fireworks will be a bonus. It would be a fun 1 day trip and if I'm not mistaken acutally cost less than a 1 day MK ticket.

 

[nicknamy1996]

although I did notice several CMs looking down (I assume at my wrist) to see if we had the wristbands on.

Are you sure your fly wasn't down?

 

[freediverdude]

Well, in regards to the "rope", I can ask her again if everybody's questioning that, but I believe that's the word she used. Since I wasn't there, I don't know if an actual rope was used or not, but there were people at the entrance to Tomorrowland checking wristbands and trying (sometimes unsuccessfully) to turn away people without wristbands, from what she said. So I'm not sure if the "rope" is really material to the discussion. And yes, she was there on Thurs the 19th.

 

[Joanna71985]

There were people standing at the entrances to Adventureland and Tomorrowland looking for wristbands.

 

[theresak]

Haven't read through this thread, but...we paid over 200 for our tickets for our party, and if others get to stay and hang out without paying that just isn't right.

Our first time ever at Disney I saw them clearing out the park for MNSSHP and had no clue what was going on, but knew I was not supposed to be there anymore without a special ticket. So I left. I would never have thought to stay and try to sneak into things I had not paid to experience. Not right.

 

[kvogel11202]

Disney markets MNSSHP as an "exclusive" hard-ticket event. We decided to go based ont he limited number of tickets sold. If you don't have a ticket you should have to leave. It's called truth in advertising, and I demand it. Does this make me "un-Disney"like? I don't think so. Is stealing something "un-Disney like"? Absolutely .

 

[a*lil*bit*goofy]

she got to see the parade and fireworks that I paid somewhere around 40 bucks to see.

alternatively, the people at the contemporary or outside the park entrance or on the lake got to see the fireworks too and they didn't pay...

imo, its a lot of work to try to stay in without a bracelet on. and a waste of time. why waste time 'on the run' when you could be at another park? kwim? i would say that of all the people who don't have a ticket, most are on their way out; some who have no clue stay and are asked to go when they enter a store or go in line for a ride; and then you have the odd few who know all about it and try to get away with staying there for the fireworks and parade, but miss out on all the rides and attractions and shopping. imo they are actually the ones who lose out.

i say if u want to go to the christmas party go and have a good time and don't worry about the other people. at least 95% of them will have paid to be there.

:O)

 

[iwynlea]

Are you sure your fly wasn't down?

Well, since I was wearing a dress at the time, that would have been difficult.

 

[cardaway]

I've heard this is just as bad every EMH. IMO the only difference if that EMH doesn't cost extra beyond paying to stay onsite. It would make bother me just on EMH days as it would for these parties.

I find it interesting that people are able to stick around without a wristband for for MNSSHP, MVMCP, and EMH. Anybody know how they pull this off?

 

[Az Pirates]

I've heard this is just as bad every EMH. IMO the only difference if that EMH doesn't cost extra beyond paying to stay onsite. It would make bother me just on EMH days as it would for these parties.

I find it interesting that people are able to stick around without a wristband for for MNSSHP, MVMCP, and EMH. Anybody know how they pull this off?

Well, I'm guessing they might not be quite as vigilant at EMH as they are at the hard ticketed events. It sounds like they're really trying to sweep folks out for those.

We were at MK on Sunday night for EMH and saw a family turned away from a ride when they didn't have wristbands. I don't think they were trying to cheat Disney, just didn't realize what was going on. They wandered off further into the park, definitely not headed toward an exit. But I think EMH is about having access to the rides with minimal waits - so didn't bother me that they were not told to leave.

Now all the folks buzzing by still using FP when the machines are shut down and it's well after park closing time is a whole other story. I say if you have not used your FP by park closing toss it or save it for your scrap book. Using it during EMH is just plain rude and I don't think Disney should even allow it.
Sorry... rant over now.

I do understand folks being upset about people staying to MNSSHP and MVMCP because you're paying extra for the whole party experience.

As for Hallowishes I'm one of the folks who saw it without buying a sperate admission ticket - but only because Disney has started showing it on non party nights. Personally I wish they weren't. I'm from AZ and don't get to go to the parks often. I wanted to see the regular Wishes!

 

[karrit2000]

1) Which was my only gripe about the thing. We were not told upon entering the park that it would be closing early (I knew they would from planning, but just defending anybody who didn't know ahead of time) We were not warned by any of the CM as the day progressed,

If you knew from planning what the park hours were scheduled to be you knew what time the park officially closed. There should be no reason for any CM to need to tell you that the park would be closing early because it wasn't. It was closing at it's scheduled time for that day.

 

[disneychickforever]

I am going to MVMCP for my birthday trip next month, and I am very excited. Honestly, yes I'd be a bit bummed if freeloaders came, but I also won't let it ruin my time. I know I'm allowed to be there, so why let them ruin the time I paid for? The parades, the fireworks, the christmas feeling itself, I'm mainly going for that. I hope to have a great time a MVMCP, and if CMs have to ask to show my wristband, oh well. It takes what, 2 seconds to flash your wrist? Maybe a little longer to pull a sleeve up? The biggest trick will be to keep my sister to wear hers...she hates those things. *shrug* ah well, I'll think of something.

If you knew from planning what the park hours were scheduled to be you knew what time the park officially closed. There should be no reason for any CM to need to tell you that the park would be closing early because it wasn't. It was closing at it's scheduled time for that day.

But understand, not everyone is major planners like us...and they might not have known....IMHO, I think it should be announced throughout the day, just for the heads up. You've also got the possiblity of someone knowing when they planned the trip, but forgetting which day it was....

Just common curitosy, but hey, everyone has a right to their opinion.

 

[kvogel11202]

OK, but the park hours are posted with the correct closing time. It's not like the hours are posted as open until 10:00 then all of a sudden at 7:00 they are being told to leave. The park closes at 7:00 you have to leave.

 

[Lil' Grumpy]

over the years, we have "paid" for the "privileges" of attending these
events. c'mom, have many years have they done mnsshp? are they
free? disney must pay extra monies for the decorations, shows,
every thing that goes into these partys...pins,shirts and so forth?
have you ever went to your local grocer and was given free candy?

when the op was bragging on his/her friend ability to "bilk''
disney....to me, that is undisney like...if everyone went for free, how
long could disney afford to put on these partys? "it takes a thief" to
sneak "in' this event..meaning if a person "hides" from going out, is
the same as sneaking in and not paying. rationizations will never change
the reality of ..,one becoming what one practice {the choices one makes}..
morality, values or religion..does not support the issue ...if you practice
stealing..then you are a thief. anyway, that how i was raised. therefore,
no doubt..we are different in our ways of thinking.


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what are you telling others , who paid their monies for such privileges,

"acting surprise", ms. innocent.. that posters disapproved of your friend
enjoying/taking up their parade space...leads me to believe that the
orginal post was done deliberately.."to hurt" those paying for their tickets.
braginng & attention seeking...,
really, your "as.-attitude" demonstrated the type of person we try to avoid
at disney...just because one can take advantage of another, is not a
"right" under any condition. once we experienced this type..while we rode
the carousel, such a person saw our camera on our stroller & decided they
needed it more than us..so they took it...just lke your friend who stayed
without paying..why do i feel the "friend"..is a reference to "oneself?"

what would have happened if that person had asked a cm if she could stay
for free? did your freind refused the candy they were passing out?

every one will decides what they will / will not be doing..but people telling me
its ok to steal.. then it's my choice to have nothing to do with them. but be
advised, i believe in reporting any stealing and/or if i catch someone doing it
to my family..i will intervened.



as far as i am concerned, those thinking this is "right" ..to steal, instead of
paying....are in the same boat...if everyone going to disney are out to
take advantage of every person/ disney 's property then how long will
disney be known as the happiest place on earth? isn't stealing against the
law? nor do i think i have the "power" to influence your attitudes...but
you are responsible for the choices you make... regardless of the
rationizations. so in reality, if one sneaked in, one is taking privileges that
one is not entitled to..and you are what you are...i happened to live
life differently. i believe, in order to keep disney a clean, happy, magical
place, i must do my part..besides..what kind of memory would my children
have if all we did was sneaked into every park and stole all our souvineers?
dwatts on that! my expectations for disney is much more important than
one "free" night...as long disney required money for tickets, we will pay
or not go! this is what i think about you friend's choices.

again, your tolerance -means to me, someone i hope to avoid.


by any chance, ever pick up a camera on a stroller...that had pics of a lil
girl visiting ariel?

 

[tjmw2727]

Wow - Grumpy, do yourself a favor and re-read the thread, I think you misunderstood. I don't see anyone posting that it is ok to stay for the party without a ticket including the OP.

I understood the OP to be just as concerned that the friend got away with it as most of us are. I haven't read any posts on this thread that say "I am going to stay for free". Those of us who are questioning if we should pay for tickets or not are simply deciding between paying and going or not going at all, not staying without a ticket.

I would consider an apology for calling the OP a liar and a theif especially the slightly masked accusation that she/he stole a camera from another diser.

TJ

 

[joeytiffany118]

What about the people like me that paid a full day admission to MK, but the park closes 3 hours early because of the xmas party. Should I get a discount on that day? I can watch the fireworks from right outside the gates if everyone is so worried about it. I am more upset about losing 3 hours of my day.

To the person who kept telling people to "get your fact straight before you post." Chill out. You pay your price, I will stay until told to leave and we will all be happy.

We are not "common" guest we are equal. I spend much more for food and gifts just before we leave than the cost to stay. We have made 4 trips in less than 30 months so I feel I have taken care of WDW plenty on the monetary end.