MK on Party night but not attending.

[Momto3:2016]

Somewhat related... if I am planning a morning at Epcot and an evening at MVMCP can I make FP for both since I will have 2 tickets? Or will MDE not allow for this?

 

[Nancyg56]

Park closes at 7. That means you are expected to be outside of the doors at 7, not strolling back around BTMRR at 6:45.

They say clearly that the park closes at 7. Not that it closes at 7 but you have to be out by 7:30 or 8. JoAnn Fabrics and Hobby Lobby both close at 9. You have to be in line with your purchases ready to leave the store at 9. That doesn't mean you get to shop until 9 then get in line. That doesn't mean you get to come in at 8:59 and shop until 10 PM because you were in the store before nine. The doors close and lock at 9.

If you don't feel that gives you enough bang for your buck on your ticket then go another day. The hours are posted well in advance so there should be no difficulty with that.

Stacy

I know that you believe that you are correct, but you are not. Disney knows that folks paid for tickets that last until 7 PM and allows guests to use the park, and that means get in lines, have dinner and shop until 7 PM> Now when the clocks strikes 7, entry is closed.

Plain and simple...if I PAY to attend the party, I PAY to enjoy a less crowded park plus the extra events/perks offered. As a non-ticket holder, I don't feel like I'm "entitled" to extend my park time past the designated hour. On party nights, the park closes at 7 PM...not 7:05 or 7:15 for not-ticket holders. "Manners" tells me to not infringe on the party attendees and their special time in the park. If one family gets to stay longer, ALL the other non-ticket holding families would expect the same right; it "doesn't work that way". You haven't paid extra money for that right...period. Your park time ends at 7 PM; it's your responsibility to be out of the park at that time.

Again, you may think this is the correct plan for everyone to follow, but unless Disney agrees.....you are just suggestions. Now....what time can you enter the MK if you have a party ticket? The party starts at 7PM, but Disney allows folks to enter at 4PM. They are allowed to secure FP for those three hours between 4 and 7. Pretty nice strategy for party goers, right? Pay for a party, get three additional hours and have FP the those folks who paid entry to the park that day might have wanted. Or is this bad manners?

You see, you cannot have it both ways. Party people have the ability to enter at 4, use the shops, restaurants and get their meals our of the way before the party starts, and book FP for the attractions that they do not want to stand in a line for. The folks who paid for those park tickets are sharing the park fm 4 to 7 with a lot of people whose tickets are nto actually valid until 7, and I have never read one complaint about that. So if we follow YOUR unles...Party people: your time starts at 7PM. Not one second prior..... So it is your responsibility to make your way in at 7, and stay off of the attractions and out of the restaurants so that the peopl who paid for those things can enjoy them without having to fight for ADR's and places in line.

 

[maxiesmom]

Somewhat related... if I am planning a morning at Epcot and an evening at MVMCP can I make FP for both since I will have 2 tickets? Or will MDE not allow for this?

No, no FPs during the parties.

 

[CMNJ]

Somewhat related... if I am planning a morning at Epcot and an evening at MVMCP can I make FP for both since I will have 2 tickets? Or will MDE not allow for this?

No MDE will not allow 2 sets of FP to be scheduled for the same day for the same person. The MCMCP ticket would have to be assigned to a person who does not already have FP for that day.

No, no FPs during the parties.

Not during the party but many people have obtained FP during the 4-7 window using party tickets since Disney allows early entry for the parties.

 

[Disneylover99]

Also during party nights, some people have been allowed to enter the MK as early as 3:30pm. I know we've entered at 3:45pm in the past. I don't see people without party tickets complaining about that.

 

[Jadyreen1282]

So you don't know dates yet but you're already planning on crashing a Party!

Iiiiiiiii like it.

 

[Robo]

\\Not during the party but many people have obtained FP during the 4-7 window using party tickets since Disney allows early entry for the parties.

And, to be able to book those 3 FP+ for use after 4PM, guests should book the first FP+ for 3:30PM-4:30-ish, the second FP+ for 4:30-5:30PM-ish, and the 3rd FP+ for 5:30-6:30PM-ish.
The reason is, on party nights, Disney has prohibited the booking a FP+ with a return time ending significantly after 6:30PM.

 

[Disneylover99]

I'm going to assume the people complaining about regular ticket holders being in the park a few minutes after 7pm on a party night are not entering the MK a minute before 7pm with their party ticket. Right?

 

[Nancyg56]

So you don't know dates yet but you're already planning on crashing a Party!

Iiiiiiiii like it.

LOL! I know I have already checked out last years party dates so I can get a little jump on my vacation plan for December. I won't bring the kids to the party, they will not last long enough to justify the cost, but I like to plan our meals and days so that I can have one night in the MK on a non party night (not an easy plan in December) and dinner at either CG or Narcoossees for Christmas Wishes. We don't stay in the park much past lunch time, party or no, so that's not an issue, but for folks who do, I think planning dinner as close to 7 as possible is a great plan. Enjoy the park as long as possible, and then eat a good meals, and get the heck out. And then start again the next day! LOL!!!

 

[Nancyg56]

I'm going to assume the people complaining about regular ticket holders being in the park a few minutes after 7pm on a party night are not entering the MK a minute before 7pm with their party ticket. Right?

LOL!!! I know! When we go to parties, I like to book dinner around 4:30 or 5 PM in the MK. It is a nice perk to enter a little early, have dinner, and be able to start the party on time. If I buy tickets now, I would totally book FP so I got the attractions I wanted out of the way before the party, and still to to plan dinner in there as well. It works both ways, but I have never seen anyone complain about the party goers infringing on the rights of those who paid for all of MK til 7PM.

 

[mesaboy2]

Somewhat related... if I am planning a morning at Epcot and an evening at MVMCP can I make FP for both since I will have 2 tickets? Or will MDE not allow for this?

FPs for special events, EMH, and new and refurbished attractions are addressed here.

 

[MaryLovesPoohBear]

Also during party nights, some people have been allowed to enter the MK as early as 3:30pm. I know we've entered at 3:45pm in the past. I don't see people without party tickets complaining about that.

Must not have been there on days I was.

In 2014, we were inundated with with party goers at 3:30. I couldn't make it to the exit. (I was riding a scooter)

In fact, a few people yelled that I was going the wrong way. I couldn't tell you how many people were just pissed off that I was trying to get out of the park.

 

[Nancyg56]

Must not have been there on days I was.

In 2014, we were inundated with with party goers at 3:30. I couldn't make it to the exit. (I was riding a scooter)

In fact, a few people yelled that I was going the wrong way. I couldn't tell you how many people were just pissed off that I was trying to get out of the park.

That 4 to 7 timeframe is wicked crowded IMO. WHen I say folks are not complaining I mean here on the DIS, I never see people trying to guilt party people into staying away until 7PM. I do see people who insist that anyoen without a ticket should be long gone by 7.

I agree that no matter what Disney does to try to mitigate the merge between those tying to get out and those trying to get in, there will be people who are in the middle of the mess. I think that you were impacted even more because no matter how well you can navigate on a scooter, you had no way of dodging a herd of people going in the opposite direction you were traveling. I do wish that there was a path for those who are in chairs, o scooters to follow duing those times when there is a crush of people. Several years ago we stayed for Wishes after Spectromagic, and the folks pushing forward was horrendous. The poor CM's had lost control, and it was a mess. A gent was trying to push a wheelchair and was getting hammered. My DH, my DSIL and I formed a shield for him because we were sure his daughter was going to get hurt. The man was pretty upset and I did not blame him.

 

[Disneylover99]

Must not have been there on days I was.

In 2014, we were inundated with with party goers at 3:30. I couldn't make it to the exit. (I was riding a scooter)

In fact, a few people yelled that I was going the wrong way. I couldn't tell you how many people were just pissed off that I was trying to get out of the park.

That's obviously terrible for you, but I was referring to complaints on the dis about party goers entering before 7pm as Nancy pointed out. You never seem to hear regular ticket holders complaining about that, especially since some people enter a full 3 and a half hours before the party officially begins.

 

[kwdw]

The park does get crowded between 4-7 pm. So - since I was a day guest last year - I booked my FP's for between 3-6:30. Crowds were "not bad" when I arrived around 1 pm. And then with the late dinner reservation I had - I had a really nice 6 hours in park plus dinner. Exited and back at my resort before 9pm. It was a perfect first day of my trip (my arrival flight had landed about 10 am).

So - I recommend being a day guest on party dates - as long as you have plan for how to plan for the crowds between 4-7.

 

[lovethattink]

I'm pretty sure Disney has a filter or something with the ADRs. @smitch425 hopefully remembers. Weren't non-party ADR times cut off at a certain time on party nights in the system? Or was that just FP schedule like @Robo mentioned?

 

[Srbright]

I know that you believe that you are correct, but you are not. Disney knows that folks paid for tickets that last until 7 PM and allows guests to use the park, and that means get in lines, have dinner and shop until 7 PM> Now when the clocks strikes 7, entry is closed.



Again, you may think this is the correct plan for everyone to follow, but unless Disney agrees.....you are just suggestions. Now....what time can you enter the MK if you have a party ticket? The party starts at 7PM, but Disney allows folks to enter at 4PM. They are allowed to secure FP for those three hours between 4 and 7. Pretty nice strategy for party goers, right? Pay for a party, get three additional hours and have FP the those folks who paid entry to the park that day might have wanted. Or is this bad manners?

You see, you cannot have it both ways. Party people have the ability to enter at 4, use the shops, restaurants and get their meals our of the way before the party starts, and book FP for the attractions that they do not want to stand in a line for. The folks who paid for those park tickets are sharing the park fm 4 to 7 with a lot of people whose tickets are nto actually valid until 7, and I have never read one complaint about that. So if we follow YOUR unles...Party people: your time starts at 7PM. Not one second prior..... So it is your responsibility to make your way in at 7, and stay off of the attractions and out of the restaurants so that the peopl who paid for those things can enjoy them without having to fight for ADR's and places in line.

Whoa whoa.... Not my circus, not my monkeys. These aren't "my" rules. I didn't just make them up.

Party goers get in at 4 because Disney allows them in. Non-party goers are expected to be out the door by 7 because Disney enforces it.

I have no way to change what time Disney allows people to come in or expects them to leave.

I have been on both sides of the door where we had tickets, came in at 4 (4:30 actually) and watched with my own eyes the cast members walking arm and arm down the street. They started at 6:45 from BTMRR and went past POC, the tree house and the Jungle Cruise before we lost sight of them.

Stacy

 

[Srbright]

Whoa whoa.... Not my circus, not my monkeys. These aren't "my" rules. I didn't just make them up.

Party goers get in at 4 because Disney allows them in. Non-party goers are expected to be out the door by 7 because Disney enforces it.

I have no way to change what time Disney allows people to come in or expects them to leave.

I have been on both sides of the door where we had tickets, came in at 4 (4:30 actually) and watched with my own eyes the cast members walking arm and arm down the street. They started at 6:45 from BTMRR and went past POC, the tree house and the Jungle Cruise before we lost sight of them.

Stacy

Although it is my dream to work for Disney.... Some day.

Stacy

 

[Robo]

I have been on both sides of the door where we had tickets, came in at 4 (4:30 actually) and watched with my own eyes the cast members walking arm and arm down the street. They started at 6:45 from BTMRR and went past POC, the tree house and the Jungle Cruise before we lost sight of them.

Stacy

"...cast members walking arm and arm down the street."

Doing what?

 

[Nancyg56]

Whoa whoa.... Not my circus, not my monkeys. These aren't "my" rules. I didn't just make them up.

Party goers get in at 4 because Disney allows them in. Non-party goers are expected to be out the door by 7 because Disney enforces it.

I have no way to change what time Disney allows people to come in or expects them to leave.

I have been on both sides of the door where we had tickets, came in at 4 (4:30 actually) and watched with my own eyes the cast members walking arm and arm down the street. They started at 6:45 from BTMRR and went past POC, the tree house and the Jungle Cruise before we lost sight of them.

Stacy

I won't insist you did not see this. I will insist that at this time Disney enforces that guests who do not have party tickets will not have access to anything when the clock chimes 7pm. At this time, Disney has no problem if guests are in a queue or restaurant before 7 pm.

If Disney allows an action, from entering a park early if one has party tickets, to entering a queue or restaurant before the magic witching hour, none of us can tell others that it's not acceptable. We just cannot.

As a guest, you can determine what works best for you and your family. You cannot push your decision on others, and honestly, if you are taking advantage of the early access that you did not pay for, adding to the crowding that occurs between 4 and 7, how can you challenge those who paid for that timeframe to leave? Fair is Fair.