Missouri may be banning steak and seafood from Food Stamp Program

[low-key]

I think if you give someone food stamps. they should be able to buy any food they want. If you dont want to have food stamps fine, but no reason to humiliate people

 

[bcla]

Really because I see lots of posters telling then not to, that they are wrong or immoral for thinking of doing it.

I don't see much of it. I see talk about others doing such things, but not much overt recommendations.

Now I do see a lot of talk that the official policy that outside food isn't allowed at Disneyland meets the reality of an unofficial policy of "just be reasonable". That's not the same as WDW official policy which states outside food is OK.

 

[Anesthesia Fine]

In my book your not a tax payer if your tax liability is negative or zero dollars into the system.

So, kids, then?

 

[lauradis]

You're assuming people have the means, time and equipment to cook unprocessed foods. If they are in a homeless shelter they have little to no access to a stove or oven. They are lucky if they have a microwave. If they work long hours or have multiple jobs (as many do) they may not have the time to soak bean and slow cook oatmeal. They may also lack knowledge on how to do so. Also, many inner cities are food desserts so they are limited to what the small shops around them may stock and most aren't stocking legumes and grains. Its not like Whole Foods or Sprouts will open a store in East Harlem that take food stamps. Saying they can just do A B or C is not a practical solution when they may face limits that you don't.

http://www.miamidade.gov/transit/transportation-disadvantaged-program-guidelines.asp

Most cities have programs like free bus passes for under 150% of poverty level

As far as cooking you have to be joking all I need to cook rice is water, rice, pot and stove/ microwave. tons of out reach programs give away pots, all government apartments have to have a cooking source.

I find it more "let them eat cake" rude that people really think poor people are plain stupid.

Next excuse of why all people on food stamps can't be held to higher standard.

 

[lauradis]

So, kids, then?

haha your funny kids cant apply for food stamps unless they have children themselves.

 

[lauradis]

MTE

I have a girl in my Girl Scout troop that lives in a homeless shelter. It used to be a hotel. They live in a hotel room with a microwave and tiny fridge.

How to cook rice in the micro wave.

1. Directions
   1. Using a 2 quart casserole dish with lid, put rice, hot water, butter and salt in dish. Stir. ...
   2. Cover, and microwave on high power 5 minutes. ...
   3. Cover and put back in microwave and cook on medium this time for 15 minutes.
   4. Remove lid (careful again!) and fluff with fork.
   5. Let stand 2-3 minutes.
   6. Serve

I hope her mother finds a way out.

 

[lauradis]

One of my 9 yr old sons friends lives in a local hotel. They have a very small fridge and no real stove to cook with. I'm sure they have a microwave but other than that nothing. I know he lives basically on shelf stable food. Making it like the WIC system would mean he would starve. They have no way to "cook" real foods like dry beans or rice. How many other families are in this same situation? What would they do? where would they go to cook this food?

how to cook dried beans in a microwave

1. Microwave Cooking. To cook beans in your microwave, place drained, soaked beans in a container with 6-8 cups of fresh hot water, cover andcook at full power for 8-10 minutes or until boiling. Reduce power 50% and cook another 15-20 minutes or until beans are tender.

 

[lauradis]

Yes, it's terrible that children get to eat.

I can't stand when people judge what's in my cart and I am an upper middle class white woman living in an affluent area. I cannot imagine what it's like for someone to be judged constantly for everything they do just because they haven't had the privileges that I do.

I think its terrible that parents would waste food stamps and not try to make them last as long as possible. So it wrong to judge, but its ok for a child to go hungry for a week before Snap card gets refilled????????

 

[Anesthesia Fine]

haha your funny kids cant apply for food stamps unless they have children themselves.

But since kids don't pay taxes (according to your very own words) they don't deserve to eat? Their parents lose their jobs and can't find a new one, they need assistance, but oh well, they should have known better than to be born into a poor family? I'm just trying to understand.

 

[Anesthesia Fine]

I think its terrible that parents would waste food stamps and not try to make them last as long as possible. So it wrong to judge, but its ok for a child to go hungry for a week before Snap card gets refilled????????

What makes you (or me, or anyone) qualified to decide?

 

[mnrose]

how to cook dried beans in a microwave

1. Microwave Cooking. To cook beans in your microwave, place drained, soaked beans in a container with 6-8 cups of fresh hot water, cover andcook at full power for 8-10 minutes or until boiling. Reduce power 50% and cook another 15-20 minutes or until beans are tender.

Ever tried this?

I cook dried beans from scratch quite often (on my stove) and it takes HOURS of boiling to get many kinds of beans tender. Not sure that 30 minutes in a microwave is gonna do the trick....beans need to be boiled, and that's what this "recipe" is doing, except I can pretty much guarantee it's going to take successive amounts of 15-20 minutes of time. Lentils maybe 30 minutes. Black beans? A bare minimum of 1-2 hours, even after soaking.

 

[mnrose]

What makes you (or me, or anyone) qualified to decide?

Apparently, taxpayers get to sit in judgment on everyone else because they know everything about everyone's circumstances and are excellent at handing out advice.

 

[lauradis]

So when do we get the post about the lady who couldn't buy dog food on ebt so she bought steak for her dogs? Or how about the one with the lady who buys $300 worth of groceries (or has it gone up to $500 now?) with ebt and goes out and gets in a brand new BMW (or Camri or Jaguar or whatever)? Or, I know, the one where the lady tells the cashier "I really need more money. Guess its time to have another kid".

I know they are coming, they always do.




Most of you here have no idea what is like to live on foodstamps. Even those that "work in the system" many times do not have a clue. Its not easy. Your kids are still normal kids that want treats. You say "they should buy oatmeal". So, if your child hates oatmeal and refuses to eat it, you only have enough money to buy oatmeal or Frosted Flakes for the month. Your kid will eat the Frosted Flakes or will not have breakfast if you get the oatmeal. What are you going to do? Well, why do you expect them to do any different?

Kids will eat cereal for a snack as well as breakfast. Not many will eat oatmeal for a snack. So, she buys enough cereal, she takes care of a meal and snack every day rather than one meal.

Its not excuses its actual facts to say they may not have a way to cook oatmeal. Or mom has to leave for work before the kids get up, cereal is safer than the kid cooking oatmeal.

Do we really want to give the government so much control over one group of society? They are poor so we "upper class" get to tell them how they should feed their kids? Give them education and information but telling them what they should be allowed to make the final choices.

how to cook No bake oatmeal cookies in the Micro wave. They are yummy and cheaper then a package of premade cookies.

1. Directions
   1. Mix together sugar, margarine, milk, cocoa, and vanilla. Heat in microwave 2 minutes. Stir. Heat in microwave 2 more minutes. Stir in peanut butter until well blended. Add oats. Drop by spoonfuls onto wax paper. Allow time to cool.
   2. * Measure oats carefully; too much and they will be too dry.

 

[lauradis]

Ever tried this?

I cook dried beans from scratch quite often (on my stove) and it takes HOURS of boiling to get many kinds of beans tender. Not sure that 30 minutes in a microwave is gonna do the trick....beans need to be boiled, and that's what this "recipe" is doing, except I can pretty much guarantee it's going to take successive amounts of 15-20 minutes of time. Lentils maybe 30 minutes. Black beans? A bare minimum of 1-2 hours, even after soaking.

no I haven't, I might. What im doing is being a brat. People keep saying others cant they don't have anything but a micro wave. What they mean to say is people wouldn't.

 

[Colleen27]

I guess you didn't read the post a few pages back that mentioned that they may not be able to use their vouchers to buy the cheaper milk because it's not on the approved list. I guess it's just easier to judge.

To be fair, that post was about cereal, juice, etc. I think milk has always allowed store brand. It is the items where nutritional value comes into play that can be weird, because not every brand and product is evaluated.

I looked up the most recent version of my state's list and it has gotten better - used to be that Spartan, Great Value, etc., as the store brands of smaller or less common groceries in our area, weren't included. Now more store brands are on the list for more items, though bread, tortillas and cereal are still more specific. https://www.michigan.gov/documents/mdch/Food_Guide_FINAL_English_437204_7.pdf

 

[Anesthesia Fine]

Apparently, taxpayers get to sit in judgment on everyone else because they know everything about everyone's circumstances and are excellent at handing out advice.

Oh, I read about that lady!

http://www.theonion.com/articles/woman-a-leading-authority-on-what-shouldnt-be-in-p,35922/

 

[lauradis]

What makes you (or me, or anyone) qualified to decide?

1. i have lived as that poor child
2. i refuse to be a leech as a grown able body person

 

[Luvchefmic]

1. i have lived as that poor child
2. i refuse to be a leech as a grown able body person

Please tell me I am misunderstanding what you just said. Are you saying that anyone that gets assistance with food stamps/EBT even if they are the working poor is a leech ? Did I pull this out of context from something else you may have posted here and I missed ?

 

[Laura66]

http://www.miamidade.gov/transit/transportation-disadvantaged-program-guidelines.asp

Most cities have programs like free bus passes for under 150% of poverty level

As far as cooking you have to be joking all I need to cook rice is water, rice, pot and stove/ microwave. tons of out reach programs give away pots, all government apartments have to have a cooking source.

I find it more "let them eat cake" rude that people really think poor people are plain stupid.

Next excuse of why all people on food stamps can't be held to higher standard.

No one is saying they are stupid. I'm not. You do realize some homeless shelters or housing situations don't have appliances? That's nothing to cook or prepare or store certain types of food.
It's not quite as easy and simple as you would believe in some cases.

 

[Laura66]

no I haven't, I might. What im doing is being a brat. People keep saying others cant they don't have anything but a micro wave. What they mean to say is people wouldn't.

You do realize a lot of people truly don't have so much as a microwave???
Many working poor are working multiple jobs and may not have the time to plan meals a and cook ahead. It really does make sense for them to buy the cheaper, processed food because it stretches, can be stored and is easily accessible and what's available in the stores that are convenient for them to get to.