Mission Space - Orange vs. Green

[pskorf]

Can anyone hlep me out with the two different levels on the Mission Space ride? The Disney webpage says that there are two different levels - Orange and the "less intense" Green.

The last time I rode this ride was back in 2004 and there were not the two different levels. It was just the one that spun really, really fast. My DH was afraid that he would get dizzy from it and DD was only 6 and too small so they did not ride.

But now that there are two different levels and claims to be "less intense" I was wondering if anyone could explain them to me.......and would it be okay for DH and DD(10) to now ride?

Everyone's input would be much appreciated! Thanks!

 

[cdrn1]

The "green" version doesn't spin. It's still a lot of fun. The seats shake and vibrate and the screens show the action. I have a great time and I'm not nauseated the rest of the day (as I imagine I would after the regular one because I'm too chicken to try it...).

 

[stepnut]

Green doesn't spin. The orange still spins, but not as much as it did when it first was introduced. I've only done the orange, and I only have done it after taking my Bonine anti-motion sick pill (that stuff is fabulous!) and I didn't feel nauseous. I did feel slightly disoriented walking away from the ride...the feeling you get after taking roller skates off and you still feel like you're skating. I still felt like I was spinning, and my body was tilting while I walked.

Stepnut

 

[Donald Duck Dad]

Only done the Orange Side, DS #1 doesn't like to much
motion and LOVES this ride. We have done it 4 times in
2 trips. Now we have to convince DW & DD to ride in 2009.

 

[froggygrrrl]

We also rode the orange side in 2004 when there wasn't a choice. I have a stomach like a rock; I can ride anything and not feel sick, I never feel dizzy after a ride, etc. DH is not as lucky. As a precaution, we rode M:S first thing in the morning, without eating anything beforehand and after taking Dramamine. We both made it through the ride okay, but both of us felt a bit nauseous for several hours afterward. I don't ever have a desire to experience that feeling again by choice, especially when not accompanied by a fever and a sore throat.

However, we tried the green side this past October and loved it! There was still enough movement that the ride wasn't lame and we were actually able to enjoy it.

 

[MagicKingdom05]

I rode the orange side side the last time I was there, which was before the decreased the speed and it was a blast. It should be interesting to see next week what the change has done to it.

 

[CleveRocks]

The orange still spins, but not as much as it did when it first was introduced.

Actually, Mission Orange is unchanged from Day One. Imagineers have consistently denied the never-ending rumor that Orange is a toned-down version of its former self.

But people's belief in that rumor is understandable. If you've been on it several times and it feels less intense than it did at first, that is due to what psychologists call "practice effects" and "desensitization."

 

[mom2att]

Dh rode the orange side and said "never again." He won't even try the green now. Dd (11), ds (7) and I all rode orange before there were two sides, and while the kids loved it, it left me feeling less-than-wonderful for a couple of hours afterward. Dd prefers orange, ds doesn't really know there is a difference, and everytime I get on the green side I am so glad we are not going to spin! If I take dramamine before I can handle orange, but still prefer green, just to KNOW I'm not going to spin! The green side gives you the effect in a much more subtle way.

 

[DebbieTN]

I love the orange side. I can't feel it spinning, just a little pressure on you from the G-forces. Just don't move your head like they tell you in the preshow. The thing that sort of gets me is the restrains you have to pull down over your head.It doesn't seem like you need these. Other centrifuge rides don't have them. I wonder if this is really part of the problem that freaks people out. It usually doesn't bother me, but time before last when I went, I pulled the restraint down a little to much and when the ride didn't start right I almost had a panic attack and was starting to have trouble breathing. Luckily it started before I got too bad and I was ok. The next time I went I wondered if I would be able to ride it. When I got in it, I only pulled down the restraint a little bit until the movie started and then I pulled it some more. I still didn't pull it all the way down and it was just fine.

 

[bdink921]

We rode the orange side when that was all that was available--well I do have a problem with motion sickness and was awfully nauseous by the end of the ride--even after taking the dramamine. One more minute and....

Anyways, we did the green side this last time we went and it was wonderful!! I was actually able to enjoy this ride . Good luck.

 

[pskorf]

Thanks for everyone's input. I rode it before there were two different versions and it didn't bother me at all, but DH tends to get dizzy easily and DD wouldn't be able to handle the spinning either I think. But I think that the whole "space experience" is cool and would like the family to try the green (non spinning version). Sounds like from everyone's information that they will be fine and enjoy the ride. Thanks!

 

[mb168]

I love the orange side. I can't feel it spinning, just a little pressure on you from the G-forces. Just don't move your head like they tell you in the preshow. The thing that sort of gets me is the restrains you have to pull down over your head.It doesn't seem like you need these. Other centrifuge rides don't have them. I wonder if this is really part of the problem that freaks people out. It usually doesn't bother me, but time before last when I went, I pulled the restraint down a little to much and when the ride didn't start right I almost had a panic attack and was starting to have trouble breathing. Luckily it started before I got too bad and I was ok. The next time I went I wondered if I would be able to ride it. When I got in it, I only pulled down the restraint a little bit until the movie started and then I pulled it some more. I still didn't pull it all the way down and it was just fine.

I agree, I have been riding this ride since they opened it and there were long lines to get on and I have never had a sensation of spinning and I don't think as many people do that claim to. I think that if there weren't so many signs saying that this was a spinning ride, announcements saying its a spinning ride, and video showing the centrifuge spinning, no one would have a CLUE that they were spinning. You are being psyched out before you get on the ride. Space vehicles do not spin, they are not trying to replicate spinning. They are using centrifugal force to simulate the G forces (or lack thereof) you would feel. It would be like saying that the earth spinning is bothering you, it is spinning faster than M:S. But if you walk on this ride worried from the get go, you have already blown it.

If people can possibly get all of that out of their mind and just ride it, they'll likely walk off wondering where the spinning was.

 

[CleveRocks]

If people can possibly get all of that out of their mind and just ride it, they'll likely walk off wondering where the spinning was.

As a therapist, I certainly agree that one's attitude and expectations can color one's experience.

But as a thrill ride lover, I have to very strongly disagree with you. I love fast and thrilling rides, the more intense the better ... I could ride Rock 'n' Roller Coaster for hours while eating nice greasy pork sandwich served in a dirty ashtray, and come out asking for more (and believe me, RnR is a tame coaster compared with 'real" coasters elsewhere). But Mission:Space (the original) made me queasy for about an hour or so. It wasn't in my mind, it was in my inner ears. The spinning causes the fluid in the semi-circular canals to move in "unnatural" ways and causes the negative sensations. Some people are more affected by this than others (ranging from no effect to extreme nausea). I happen to be someone who is pretty affected by such things. Believe me, I was very enthusiastic about riding this ride, and I'm very glad I did it. I didn't want to feel woozy afterwards, but it happened, and it wasn't caused by my fears. I had no fears.

Meanwhile, I rode with my father-in-law. He chickened out of Splash Mountain because it was too high for him, and white-knuckled it though Goofy's Barnstormer to make my son happy. So he's a real ride wimp, and he had no trouble at all with M:S, and in fact made fun of me that I looked green afterwards. I reminded him that he wouldn't ride the itty bitty Splash Mountain, and that shut him up.

 

[duketennisgal]

As a therapist, I certainly agree that one's attitude and expectations can color one's experience.

But as a thrill ride lover, I have to very strongly disagree with you. I love fast and thrilling rides, the more intense the better ... I could ride Rock 'n' Roller Coaster for hours while eating nice greasy pork sandwich served in a dirty ashtray, and come out asking for more (and believe me, RnR is a tame coaster compared with 'real" coasters elsewhere). But Mission:Space (the original) made me queasy for about an hour or so. It wasn't in my mind, it was in my inner ears. The spinning causes the fluid in the semi-circular canals to move in "unnatural" ways and causes the negative sensations. Some people are more affected by this than others (ranging from no effect to extreme nausea). I happen to be someone who is pretty affected by such things. Believe me, I was very enthusiastic about riding this ride, and I'm very glad I did it. I didn't want to feel woozy afterwards, but it happened, and it wasn't caused by my fears. I had no fears.

Meanwhile, I rode with my father-in-law. He chickened out of Splash Mountain because it was too high for him, and white-knuckled it though Goofy's Barnstormer to make my son happy. So he's a real ride wimp, and he had no trouble at all with M:S, and in fact made fun of me that I looked green afterwards. I reminded him that he wouldn't ride the itty bitty Splash Mountain, and that shut him up.

I disagree with the previous poster as well, I can ride any kind of thrill ride, I just can't do motion simulators. I get sick even from the non spinning version of mission space, some people just can't handle that kind of stuff. Heck star wars makes me sick to my stomach.

I rode mission space when it first opened up and I didn't pay any attention to any of the warnings, I was extremely excited because I wanted to go to space camp when I was growing up so I was ready. I kept my head straight forward and never looked to the sides like I was told to, none of that mattered. I honestly have never felt more nauseas in my entire life, I couldn't do anything for a good 3 or 4 hours afterwards, it was awful. Since then I tried to ride the "tame" version and I still got sick!

Some people just can not handle those type of rides.

 

[mb168]

I went through many spinning simulators in the Navy and have seen many demonstrations of how small affects on your body can have major affects on you. They spent lots of money on us showing what can happen to us and how to recognize it before they let us get into an airplane. I don't dispute that M:S isn't an intense ride, it is putting forces on the body that most people on earth never get to experience. No doubt it can disturb you. But the push merry go round at my neighborhood playground (or the tea cups at MK) gives far greater sensation of "spinning" than M:S orange.

What really affects most people is the sudden change, acceleration and deceleration. The biggest issue is not the pull back in your seat of the launch or the sling shot, but the change from pulling g's at the launch, to negative g's during weightlessness, back to pulling g's at the sling shot around the moon, back to weightlessness, back to pulling g's for the landing. That is a lot of change in "gravity" on your body, inner ear, etc, and that is what causes most people to have problems on M:S.

 

[CleveRocks]

What really affects most people is the sudden change, acceleration and deceleration. The biggest issue is not the pull back in your seat of the launch or the sling shot, but the change from pulling g's at the launch, to negative g's during weightlessness, back to pulling g's at the sling shot around the moon, back to weightlessness, back to pulling g's for the landing. That is a lot of change in "gravity" on your body, inner ear, etc, and that is what causes most people to have problems on M:S.

Well said.

 

[rsimon]

DD and I always ride the orange side.. DW has ridden it when it first opened but hasn't been back since they opened the green side.. DW gets motion sick quite easy and DD and I are rocks (except when DD was out on a whale shark diving trip in the gulf on a 30' boat.. I was the only rock then.. LOL!)

Anyhow, we have ridden the orange side many times, even going several times in a row when it isn't busy.. The more you ride it, the less effective it is in making you feel the motion.. Couple of notes, even though there are definitely G's during takeoff, you never truely hit 0 G's.. In fact, probably not even close.. There's never a point where things don't keep falling in the "capsule" as we have tested this with the barfbags

Just like any motion sickness, it is MUCH better to ride when you are not hungry. One of the reasons cruise ships are always feeding you is that you won't get motion sick as easy with a full stomach.. As long as you continue to look forward, there isn't really any dizziness experienced..

Now, for you more adventurous people (DD and me alike), this is where people probably make the mistake.. If you look sideways during the parts of the ride where you are pulling G's, you will feel dizzy (like after being spun in a chair only worse).. All returns to normal once you look forward again. So, if you don't get sick, try it out some time (wild experience).. If you do get sick or think you might.. just keep looking forward and you are fine.

On the note of the orange side being tamed down.. I would agree that it feels about the same the first time you ride it each trip.. but after you ride a few times in a row, it doesn't feel nearly as intense..

 

[mb168]

Of everything I saw, one demonstration stands out in my mind from years ago, and it has to do with what we both spoke of. They had a chair on a pedestal, like a barber chair. They got a friend of mine as a "volunteer" to sit blindfolded in the chair, feet up on the rest so he had no contact with anything other than the chair, and he sat with his thumbs on his knees pointed up. He was instructed to turn his thumbs either to the left, right, or straight up if he thought he was spinning one way or the other or not spinning at all. From a standstill (thumbs up) to spinning right (thumbs pointing right) he was accelerating. They spun him up a little, not very fast, as fast as you could imagine a barber chair spinning, and when they stopped speeding him up and held him at a constant speed, his thumbs went back up. He was spinning around but could not detect it because there was no more acceleration. As the chair now started slowing, still spinning to the right (decelerating), he actually started pointing his thumbs back to the left. The slowing down from spinning made his body (inner ear) think he had actually reversed direction. Then as the chair slowed, he went back to thumbs up even though the chair was still moving, and in the same direction it had been the whole time. When it stopped, for a brief instant he pointed back to the right again.

That was one of the most powerful demonstrations I've ever seen and it scares the crap out of you the first time you enter a cloud or take your mind of of things for a brief instant on a dark moonless night.

 

[MonkeyPants]

Green doesn't spin. The orange still spins, but not as much as it did when it first was introduced. I've only done the orange, and I only have done it after taking my Bonine anti-motion sick pill (that stuff is fabulous!) and I didn't feel nauseous. I did feel slightly disoriented walking away from the ride...the feeling you get after taking roller skates off and you still feel like you're skating. I still felt like I was spinning, and my body was tilting while I walked.

Stepnut

you know I thought the orange felt less intense when I did it this past time. I didnt realize that had toned it down...just thought I was getting immune