Mission Space big mistake!

I think I will probably love this ride. Even DH probably will. Now the kids- I probably wouldn't even take them on this ride even if they met the height requirements- they are still young and would probably either get scared or sick.

Not every ride is for every person that comes to Disney- not every age, height, etc. So why should this one be for every single person that comes to Disney??? I fail to see the logic in that.
 
We rode it - my son was sick...right after he gave me two thumbs up and said AWESOME! He felt the spinning and it bothered him...but he is sensitive to spinning rides, but not any other kind of ride/motion. He had a lot of trouble with his ears...tubes a couple times...ruptured eardrum, etc. - so I always assumed they were related.

I did feel the spinning - BUT - it's becoz I was turning my head to check on him which is a mistake. Also, if you close your eyes - you feel the spinning - keeping them wide open, head back, eyes on the screen is important. It didn't make me sick...I could just feel it for a few seconds.

I thought the ride was incredible - I'm still amazed at how they really made me feel like I was tipping back in my seat and launching into space. I'd hardly call it a flop or a failure...I'm sure it's going to pack them in. Like someone else said - people who are afraid of heights are going to skip ToT too...and that certainly could not be called a failure!
 
"So why should this one be for every single person that comes to Disney??? I fail to see the logic in that."


"The idea for [Disneyland] came about when my daughters were very yound and Saturaday was always Dad's day witht eh two daughters. So we'd start out and try to go someplace, you know, different thigns, and I'd take them to the merry-go-round and I took them different palces and as I'd sit while they rode the merry-go-round and did all these things - sit on a bench, you know, eating peanuts -- I felt that there should be something built where the parents and the childern could have fun together. So that's how Disneyland started...it started from a daddy with two daughters wondering where he could take them where he could have a little fun with them too."

Walt Disney



"Screw the little ####'s. I got their parents' money. Stuff 'em in a McDonald's playground while their slacker acne-faced loser littermates spin until they puke out their eyeballs."

Michael Eisner (maybe)
 
I CANT WAIT TO GO ON MISSION SPACE YAHOOOOOOO!!!

Joe in CT
 

AV - just a question. Do you think that ToT & RnRC were mistakes? Or any of the mountains really. I realize that they came after Walt Disney died, but I thinking of the precedent - The Matterhorn.

All be these rides not necessarily for children - they can appeal to those same kids once they get a little older. I don't think that small children should be a target - since they usually grow up there has to be attractions that appeal to that older audience. Otherwise the repeat visitors would cease.

That doesn't mean that everything not for children should be "thrill" based, but I don't think it hurts to have a few "thrill" attractions. Most people do like them. Those are the biggest and longest lines (next to Dumbo!)
 
:( Come on, people, King Triton was just expressing his opinon. Give him a break. He has the right to say what he thinks like everyone else around here. :(
 
*** "Come on, people, King Triton was just expressing his opinon. Give him a break. He has the right to say what he thinks like everyone else around here. " ***

Then why post a topic titled "Mission Space big mistake!" rather then " Mission Space made me puke ".
 
Sorry, but even the title is still Tritons opinion, and he has every right to that opinion.
 
The whole "tone" of his post is that he is right, Disney/we are wrong. Many posts before his described MS as a great ride. He makes statement like:

"This is a Disney Disaster that Michael Eisner approved. "

There is nothing in his post to indicate this is his humble opinion, he matter-of-factly states the ride is a disaster regardless of the many who posted it was a great ride.
 
I give up, I'm going out the supermarket:rolleyes:
 
My DS (almost 13) and I rode Mission: Space 4 times in late June and absolutely LOVED the experience. Did not feel any spinning motion at all.
To say that Disney made a bad mistake with this ride is a personal opinion. This ride is a remarkable experience but not everyone will like it. In fact, there is no ride in the world that absolutely everyone likes. Everyone will form their own opinion AFTER they try it.
I have found very few people who did not think this was a thrilling experience.
Mission: Space is now near the top of our favorites, along with #1 Tower of Terror, Big Thunder, Space Mountain, Splash Mountain and RnR (one of my son's top rides......not mine!).
 
Originally posted by Another Voice
"So why should this one be for every single person that comes to Disney??? I fail to see the logic in that."


"The idea for [Disneyland] came about when my daughters were very yound and Saturaday was always Dad's day witht eh two daughters. So we'd start out and try to go someplace, you know, different thigns, and I'd take them to the merry-go-round and I took them different palces and as I'd sit while they rode the merry-go-round and did all these things - sit on a bench, you know, eating peanuts -- I felt that there should be something built where the parents and the childern could have fun together. So that's how Disneyland started...it started from a daddy with two daughters wondering where he could take them where he could have a little fun with them too."

Walt Disney



"Screw the little ####'s. I got their parents' money. Stuff 'em in a McDonald's playground while their slacker acne-faced loser littermates spin until they puke out their eyeballs."

Michael Eisner (maybe)

You only quoted a PORTION of my post and I can clearly see why. I clearly stated that there are already rides that are not for all ages- even with height restrictions and such.... so why should THIS ride be any different and made for every single age/size/etc?
Answer the complete question- not take one sentence out of context and answer it. Why should THIS ride be held to the standard of being for every age person in the world yet there are many other rides that are clearly not for every single person in the world? If your complaint is about this ride isn't for every age- then complain about all the other rides that are clearly "thrill" rides not intended for young children, pregnant women, elderly people, etc.
 
After riding MS now 11 times over the last month and noticing peoples comments, Disney has scored a bullseye. Did not witness one person throwing up but am sure it has happened. Saw lots of happy faces and mostly all positive comments. Have seen wobbly knees especially on folks who have immediately rode it twice or more in a row. This ride is not for everyone. A few people do not heed the warnings that keep being broadcast by CMs, signs, and videos and then come off the ride complaining. Whose fault is that? Keep your head back against the restraint and look straight ahead at the monitor. If they didn't tell you it is a spinning ride you would never know it spins. My wife loved it the first time but then rode again right away, as it was almost a walk on. This time there was only 3 of us in the capsule and she reached over to hit the empty seats buttons. Moving her head out of the restraint to look turned her into a gyroscope. It messed her up for a few minutes afterwards but she was back a few days later to ride again.

If you see a line of people at MS during weekdays, the planet is spinning and you hear CMs (in their MS suits) preaching to people that you may be waiting forever, as the ride may not open again until August. STAY IN LINE if you want to ride. I see a lot of people leave and ten minutes later the ride is open. The longest we waited was 45minutes(the sign said 75) The shortest was 5 minutes Avg 20min. They did not use the singles line any of the times we were there.
 
"You only quoted a PORTION of my post and I can clearly see why. I clearly stated that there are already rides that are not for all ages- even with height restrictions and such.... so why should THIS ride be any different and made for every single age/size/etc? Answer the complete question-

Why should THIS ride be held to the standard of being for every age person in the world yet there are many other rides that are clearly not for every single person in the world?"

Because the public sees a big difference between attractions that might be for a limited audience because of the story or thrills, i.e. children too frightened by the 'Haunted Mansion' or people afraid of heights for 'Tower of Terror', pregnant women not wanting something rough – and attractions that cause real pain and genuine discomfort for a substantial percentage of its riders.

I mean, "moving her head out of the restraint to look turned her into a gyroscope" is not the indication of ride for a lot of people. Turning to look at something is a very common human trait and one not normally associated with any kind of danger (not like standing up on a movie vehicle or unbuckling a seat belt or those normal safety precautions on a ride). I heard all the warnings, but I unconsciously turn my head to the side to say something the person next to me (because that's how humans tend to talk and some instincts can't be overcome just because a neon sign mentioned it). Should I have been "punished" with an hour-long head ache from an amusement park ride?

I now expect a flurry of bouncing smiley face posts that say "yes", and that's my point. WDW was not built just for your solitary benefit. There are 15,999,999 other people that WDW must please every year to stay in business ("Disney is a business" is more than a justification for the latest cut they make). The goal of 'Mission: Space' is not to let you get your asteroids off, the goal is to attract several million happy people (i.e., wallets) back to Epcot to save it from a rather gruesome fate. The "mistake" is not about whether 'M:S' is too rough for the kiddie and the old farts*, but whether 'M:S' is a ride that will recoup its investment.

There are "rumors" that WDW is seriously concerned about the level of guest unhappiness with 'Mission: Space'. The same thing happened with 'Body Wars' – the attraction was juiced at the being because that's "what people wanted" – only to find out that the are far more pukers than there are kEwL thrill ride seekers at WDW.

There is no clear rule to follow here. It's a choice about where Disney wants to be on a scale from 'Swan Boats' all the way up to 'Mega Colossal Gargantuan Terror of Plummeting Screaming Death'. Given where Disney's market it, and where they try to sell it, one can make the argument that 'Mission: Space' is an inappropriate ride for Epcot.

But that's not our call to make. The public will make the decision and vote with the feet (and their stomachs). Like movies, the question is how popular will the ride remain over time; Disney built 'M:S' to last twenty years. Will it still be pulling in 'Pirates' size audiences then? Or will it be forgotten and seldom visited – 'Body Wars' rarely has the lines it did when it first opened.

So if you enjoyed the ride, please go and enjoy it. But realize that just because others don't doesn't make them less human or worse people than you. And also keep in mind that it's those other people who keep WDW in business, not you.


* - by the way, Walt built the Matterhorn and it had no height restrictions. For those of us growing up in Southern California it was a test of childhood to be "brave" enough to ride the ride. And all these years I've turned my head plenty of times and never puked once.
 
The only problem with Mission: SPACE is that the ride system is so unique that people don't have anything to compare it to - they simply don't know if they'll be able to handle it until they've experienced it. Many people who get sick on the teacups are fine on Mission: SPACE. Same with things like Body Wars and roller coasters. But then there are those who don't usually get sick on anything, but Space does them in. THAT is where many of the complaints you are hearing are coming from - riders who assume that if they are getting sick on it, everyone else will too.

What Disney should do is reconsider the preshow and in-queue warnings to give people a better idea of what they are about to experience is not something like a high-tech version of Dumbo, which is what the graphics make it appear to be.

In any case, I'd rather have Disney gamble a bit for a chance to produce something truly unique and outstanding like Mission: SPACE (and even those who do get sick on it say that it's unlike anything they've ever experienced before), than them only building attractions using proven off-the-shelf technology.
 
It's amazing at the number of experts there are in this world, counting me. And I don't like to admit to the number of times I have been wrong. Someone will be wrong and only time will tell who.
 
I would agree with wdwguide.
Its nice to see disney try for a unique experience rather than give us the rides of late which are just re-themed cary rides.
And where is the proof to indicate that substantial amountf of people are getting sick/hurt on this attraction???
I dont think anyone claimed that if you dont like this attraction that you are less of a person or less human than someone else. Any well run theme park will have different experiences that will be liked by different segments of visitors but should have a mix so there is something in the park for all to enjoy.
I for one am glad to se disney again try to give us something that cant be experienced at any theme park.
PS-Body Wars was a bad idea from the get go with or without the ride being changed and isnt the type of attraction that will make people want to ride it again which is a different story from something like Star Tours when first built.
Sad that cranium command was done so well and body wars wasnt and hasnt been changed yet!!!!
 
I'm glad that Walt was willing to gamble his financial position on a cartoon about a mouse.

then again...., I bet someone complained that seeing a mouse creeped them out. Why didn't he use a character that appealed to everyone?

(sarcasm implied).
 
I agree with the poster that said only time will tell. Is Mission Space pulling them in only because it's different? Is it actually fun for most people who ride it? Because it will cease to be different fairly quickly. However if it's fun it will still pull the people in like Test Track does so well.

There are rumors that Disney is looking into retooling this ride a bit to tone down the number of ill people. I certainly don't know how they could change it or even if this is anywhere close to the truth but even a small group of people feeling ill and complaining about it doesn't do Epcot any good.
 
I am thrilled that Disney has decided to push the envelope of thrill with this ride. Many, many people will be thrilled and I honestly think it'll be a huge attraction.

However, I have serious doubts as to my own ability to participate on this ride. I have a weak stomach, exacerbated by a horrible tendency to anticipate the worst (not a good thing).

Still I think that despite some 'uncleanliness' shall we call it, the ride will find its niche and I believe that niche will be big.

glossery:
By "I" I truly mean me, myself.
By "many, many people" I specifically mean the people who ride M:S' and like it.:rolleyes:
 












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