Missing AP Rate by one day -- Looking for off-site recommendations

I was tempted to say that this statement is a bit of a stretch.......but then I realized that would imply that Grande Vista was maybe possibly close to being as nice as the DVC resorts.

It isn't.

Sure, Grande Vista might be a good off-site option. But compared to DVC the location sucks. But we all know that. So what about the accomodations and the facilities?

No, they aren't close either. Oh, they aren't bad......but not close to being equal to, much less superior to, DVC. Oh, maybe it had to do with the exterior hallways with the unattractive crumbling stuccoed concrete, the contractor grade (read: cheap) door, the flimsy metal railings, the small, slow elevators, the difficulty in finding a parking space at night, the lack of themeing, the landscaping and grounds that don't come close to the DVC resorts, the lack of services (think valet parking), no lobby or comfy sitting areas......I suppose it could have been a lot of things. Sure, the villas are actually very large. Larger than the DVC accomodations. Of course the materials are a lot cheaper (think cabinets, counter tops, appliances, kitchen and bath fixtures) and the furniture isn't as nice. Yeah, that might have had something to do with it too. As for facilities, having to get into the car or walk through parking lots that remind me of a suburban apartment complex wasn't all that thrilling, but once you got there the pools were ok.......oh, but not as nice as those at the DVC resorts.

We did the Grande Visat thing. Even two weeks for the price of one and a boatload of extra Marriott Rewards points wouldn't make me consider buying into the place......given that I have our DVC ownership to compare it to.

Don't get me wrong. Grande Vista is very nice. The Marriott Vacation Club program is actually pretty good. The deals they offer aren't bad. If you want to frequent the non-Disney attractions in the Orlando area it's a very attractive option. But superior to DVC? Poppycock. Fiddlesticks. Really now......that's just bunk ;).

But I digress.

Have you checked cash rates for the Swolphin? They can be very good sometimes and the location is excellent.



OK,

Fair enough.

What about the food? Poolside food is excellent there. Nick's at the golf course is better than anything DVC Resorts offer AND they will GLADLY do to go food. How about the pizza hut express on site or the grocery store that actually has things you need? How about the sandwiches you can get to go in there? Hot paninis and the like. How about the 9 hole golf course and the Nick Faldo golf school right there?

To say the location stinks is way off as well. I didn't realize International Drive is a bad location.

How about the mulitude of activities for kids? How about the indoor playground for kids with slides and climbing? Great gym? Spa? Animal shows? Live music? Boat rentals? 2 bars where you can actually sit and get a drink?

Really it is far superior to DVC except it isn't on property.

The one thing we agree on is that I wouldn't want to own there. It is real reasonable on cash so why buy in?

Nice disagreeing with you. Go to Trip advisor dot com and punch in Marriott Grande Vista and then compare to reviews of DVC Resorts. At least there the people review without just reflexively defending DVC.

DVC is NOT the best there is. I encourage everyone to check out for themselves "other" resorts in Orlando. Competition is fierce and there are some great ones out there.
 
NOOOOO! That would be terrible! I use the 10K Starwood points nights to fill in the weekends when we don't have DVC points to spare. 16K points/night would make this pretty tough for us to manage. I guess I'd better book our XMas nights now if the points might go up:scared:

If you have the points now, it wouldn't hurt to book before 2/1 becuase there is no cancellation penalty so far out. Then, if the points don't go up, you can cancel and rebook if you need to make any changes, but if they do go up, you are locked in at the lower rate. By the way, becuase it may move up to a Cat 5 property, the points range is 12,000 to 16,000 per night, so for a non-peak night, the rate would be lower.

Best of luck -- Suzanne
 
OK,

Fair enough.

What about the food? Poolside food is excellent there. Nick's at the golf course is better than anything DVC Resorts offer AND they will GLADLY do to go food. How about the pizza hut express on site or the grocery store that actually has things you need? How about the sandwiches you can get to go in there? Hot paninis and the like. How about the 9 hole golf course and the Nick Faldo golf school right there?

To say the location stinks is way off as well. I didn't realize International Drive is a bad location.

How about the mulitude of activities for kids? How about the indoor playground for kids with slides and climbing? Great gym? Spa? Animal shows? Live music? Boat rentals? 2 bars where you can actually sit and get a drink?

Really it is far superior to DVC except it isn't on property.

The one thing we agree on is that I wouldn't want to own there. It is real reasonable on cash so why buy in?

Nice disagreeing with you. Go to Trip advisor dot com and punch in Marriott Grande Vista and then compare to reviews of DVC Resorts. At least there the people review without just reflexively defending DVC.

DVC is NOT the best there is. I encourage everyone to check out for themselves "other" resorts in Orlando. Competition is fierce and there are some great ones out there.
Yes, I agree........I like a polite disagreement once in a while ;).

Seriously. Grand Vista has it's virtues. If it's access to Disney you primarily want than the location does stink compared to DVC. Anything does. As I said, if you want other Orlando attractions the location is pretty good. Also, Grande Vista does have more to offer than DVC when it comes to kids programs and fast food, etc., etc., etc, although I don't think it has a leg up on bars, gyms, spas on a per unit basis. But the place is more geared toward being a self enclosed resort. There really isn't anything right outside your door, literally steps outside your door, other than what they offer on the grounds of the resort. For those who want to spend a lot of their time on the grounds of the resort that's a plus. I didn't find that the place actually made me want to do that, but that's just me. Different strokes for different folks.

That said, the theming of the resorts, the quality of the accomodations, the overall hotel amenities, the resort experience as a whole....I find that DVC exceeds what Grande Vista offers. Then again I'm not looking for fast food, to go orders, and supervised activities to keep my kids busy when we vacation at WDW, not that there is anything wrong with others wanting those things.

I guess for me it boils down to this. When I am staying at DVC, let's say the VWL or BCV for example, I feel like you are staying at a first class resort hotel. When I stay at a place like Grande Vista I feel like I'm staying at a first class vacation timeshare. To me there is a difference, but to others there may not be.

I agree, you can get great cash rates at Grande Vista and it's worth checking into if you are looking for an off-site night.
 
Yes, I agree........I like a polite disagreement once in a while ;).

Seriously. Grand Vista has it's virtues. If it's access to Disney you primarily want than the location does stink compared to DVC. Anything does. As I said, if you want other Orlando attractions the location is pretty good. Also, Grande Vista does have more to offer than DVC when it comes to kids programs and fast food, etc., etc., etc, although I don't think it has a leg up on bars, gyms, spas on a per unit basis. But the place is more geared toward being a self enclosed resort. There really isn't anything right outside your door, literally steps outside your door, other than what they offer on the grounds of the resort. For those who want to spend a lot of their time on the grounds of the resort that's a plus. I didn't find that the place actually made me want to do that, but that's just me. Different strokes for different folks.

That said, the theming of the resorts, the quality of the accomodations, the overall hotel amenities, the resort experience as a whole....I find that DVC exceeds what Grande Vista offers. Then again I'm not looking for fast food, to go orders, and supervised activities to keep my kids busy when we vacation at WDW, not that there is anything wrong with others wanting those things.

I guess for me it boils down to this. When I am staying at DVC, let's say the VWL or BCV for example, I feel like you are staying at a first class resort hotel. When I stay at a place like Grande Vista I feel like I'm staying at a first class vacation timeshare. To me there is a difference, but to others there may not be.

I agree, you can get great cash rates at Grande Vista and it's worth checking into if you are looking for an off-site night.



Well the disagreement was fun while it lasted.

I wouldn't recommend skipping DVC for Grande Vista. I just feel it is a fine value for an offsite night or two.

Make no mistake I love DVC and choose to spend most of my Orlando time there. (location, location, location) People just dismiss the "other guys" and I feel they are at least worth a look. Some might be surprised by what is out there.

Thanks for your posts.
 
I just feel it is a fine value for an offsite night or two.
Well, then that's all you had to say. I agree :).

But equal to or superior.........pish! Trouble maker ;).
 
Swan/Dolphin: Check Allears, they usually have good S/D deals

Hilton at Downtown Disney; You get EMH hours
 
Have you checked cash rates for the Swolphin? They can be very good sometimes and the location is excellent.

DisneyKidds......Yes, I did. The exact rate escapes me now, but I believe it was approaching $200. It definitely wasn't $129 or less. I'd love to stay there sometime. We don't qualify for any of their special rates. Thanks for the idea though.

Stan
 
















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