Minnie Van ?? Tipping

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Do you tip Minnie Van driver?
If so, how much.
We don't use lift, uber, taxis often so not sure what is expected.
 
We do tip the driver. They have always been so kind and helpful that I would feel weird if I didn't tip them. In the past I have tipped around $5 but that was when the rides were a flat $25. I can't tell you that I will tip more now that the rides are more expensive though. I will probably stick to $4-$5 max.
 
MinnieVan drivers are salaried Disney employees, presumably with benefits, and originally Disney forbade them from accepting tips. Under pressure from guests, Disney changed that policy to requiring the drivers to refuse tips three times before taking them...or some such silliness. Finally they agreed that it was okay for the drivers to accept tips.

I haven't taken MV, but I agree with Dbktmc -- I would feel weird NOT tipping.

But considering the more than doubling of some fares from the original pricing, I'd probably tip a flat $5 unless it was a $150 airport ride.

For anyone not current with MV pricing, they were originally $20 anywhere onsite, then $25. Now the price is $15 + $2.75 per mile, so some rides are more than $40.
 

MinnieVan drivers are salaried Disney employees,

Really? Are you sure? Cuz I've been an 'attraction worker' and have a bunch of friends who either have or still work at Disney and FEW are full time, OR salaried employees. Disney like many other places has WAY MORE hourly workers on 'part time' status specifically to AVOID providing benefits. The first step up from this is to become a 'full time hourly' worker who does 40 hours a week and gets some benefits but frankly these positions are few IME. Some front line supervisors.

And then there is the question of who the drivers work for as the program is actually run by LYFT suggesting a contractual arrangement between Disney and Lyft similar to say: the gift shops on Disney ships, the dock workers in Port Canaveral, the bus drivers for DME and DCL (they work for MEARS)

I'd tip IAW general LYFT recommendations .. . . and btw LYFT / UBER / and MEARS taxi all operate with the Disney complex and may be faster and less expensive unless you NEED one of the M'Van unique offerings (car seats ...... funky paint job)
 
MinnieVan drivers are salaried Disney employees,

Really? Are you sure? Cuz I've been an 'attraction worker' and have a bunch of friends who either have or still work at Disney and FEW are full time, OR salaried employees. Disney like many other places has WAY MORE hourly workers on 'part time' status specifically to AVOID providing benefits. The first step up from this is to become a 'full time hourly' worker who does 40 hours a week and gets some benefits but frankly these positions are few IME. Some front line supervisors.
They are Disney employees; my use of the word "salaried" just meant that they are paid by Disney. I worded that poorly; I didn't mean they were job-basis. But hourly employees are just as much an employee as a job-basis employee.

I don't know whether they are full-time, part-time, have benefits, don't have benefits -- but they work for Disney

And then there is the question of who the drivers work for as the program is actually run by LYFT suggesting a contractual arrangement between Disney and Lyft similar to say: the gift shops on Disney ships, the dock workers in Port Canaveral, the bus drivers for DME and DCL (they work for MEARS)
NO driver works for Lyft. Anyone who drives for Lyft (or Uber) is a self-employed independent contractor.

The relationship between Lyft and the Disney MinnieVans is just like the relationship between Uber and Mears with the Uber Taxis.

Rides are requested and dispatched through the app, and payment is made through the app. A service charge is paid by Disney and Mears for each completed ride. It's just an electronic connection between a rider who wants a ride and the company who owns the vehicle...via a smartphone app system.

...and btw LYFT / UBER / and MEARS taxi all operate with the Disney complex and may be faster and less expensive unless you NEED one of the M'Van unique offerings (car seats ...... funky paint job)
Agree. In fact, I would venture that any of the three WILL be faster and less expensive. But MV riders are looking for a Disney experience, not a ride.
 
MinnieVan drivers are salaried Disney employees,

Really? Are you sure? Cuz I've been an 'attraction worker' and have a bunch of friends who either have or still work at Disney and FEW are full time, OR salaried employees. Disney like many other places has WAY MORE hourly workers on 'part time' status specifically to AVOID providing benefits. The first step up from this is to become a 'full time hourly' worker who does 40 hours a week and gets some benefits but frankly these positions are few IME. Some front line supervisors.

And then there is the question of who the drivers work for as the program is actually run by LYFT suggesting a contractual arrangement between Disney and Lyft similar to say: the gift shops on Disney ships, the dock workers in Port Canaveral, the bus drivers for DME and DCL (they work for MEARS)

I'd tip IAW general LYFT recommendations .. . . and btw LYFT / UBER / and MEARS taxi all operate with the Disney complex and may be faster and less expensive unless you NEED one of the M'Van unique offerings (car seats ...... funky paint job)

I think some riders feel some comfort with Minnie Vans because they have heard that the drivers are Disney employees (whether or not the word "salaried" is correct). These may be people who have never used Uber or Lyft and are afraid of it.

People know that the Lyft app is used to request a ride, but I have never heard that Lyft has any say in the Minnie Van program other than that. Not that I have any firsthand knowledge.
 
I think some riders feel some comfort with Minnie Vans because they have heard that the drivers are Disney employees (whether or not the word "salaried" is correct). These may be people who have never used Uber or Lyft and are afraid of it.
Yes, I think that was true for some riders when the program first started with the low introductory pricing. It was still more expensive than Uber or Lyft, but they were willing to pay a little more for the confidence that the Disney brand brings...and for the cute factor.

Now, however, I'm sure that the vast majority of MV riders are looking for a memorable experience -- OR they need two child car seats, or they're going to MK and don't want to walk from the Contemporary.

People know that the Lyft app is used to request a ride, but I have never heard that Lyft has any say in the Minnie Van program other than that. Not that I have any firsthand knowledge.
I'm sure Lyft has some say regarding the drivers.

First of all, the drivers must meet all of the State of Florida requirements for rideshare drivers, which are quite stringent. Second, Lyft would certainly have the right to remove a driver from their platform if they received serious complaints, or if the driver maintained less-than-satisfactory ratings.

But beyond that, I think Disney is fully in charge of all other aspects of the MV program.
 
so all of this says

there are contractual requirements which must be met or an individual may be dismissed .....

which was exactly the relationship I had for YEARS where I had 'contract staff' ..... if you don't live up to the terms of the contract (include Disney dress etc) I can call the contractor and say this person is not acceptable. IME they are replaced within 24 hours . . .

what remains is the drivers are only "Disney" by virtue of a contract like MANY other folks on site
 
so all of this says

there are contractual requirements which must be met or an individual may be dismissed .....

which was exactly the relationship I had for YEARS where I had 'contract staff' ..... if you don't live up to the terms of the contract (include Disney dress etc) I can call the contractor and say this person is not acceptable. IME they are replaced within 24 hours . . .

what remains is the drivers are only "Disney" by virtue of a contract like MANY other folks on site
I'm sure you are right with regard to numerous people we think of as Disney "CMs," but that model does not apply in the rideshare world.

Lyft has NO drivers. Uber has NO drivers. All Uber/Lyft drivers are self-employed independent contractors. Nobody tells us when or where to work. We can accept a ride request...or not, with no penalty. We can work for both companies, or for other gig-economy companies. Many, many Uber/Lyft drivers have full-time "real" jobs. If we get tired, we just turn the app off and go home.

We are truly independent. We are our own bosses -- which means that you're still working for a jerk, but at least the jerk is you.

I'm quite sure MinnieVan drivers do not work that way. They might work for some contractor company, like the valet dudes -- but they do NOT work for Lyft.

However, if they are working for a contractor company, I have to say that Disney is seriously scamming the public and that is just not like Disney.
 
I'm sure you are right with regard to numerous people we think of as Disney "CMs," but that model does not apply in the rideshare world.

Lyft has NO drivers. Uber has NO drivers. All Uber/Lyft drivers are self-employed independent contractors. Nobody tells us when or where to work. We can accept a ride request...or not, with no penalty. We can work for both companies, or for other gig-economy companies. Many, many Uber/Lyft drivers have full-time "real" jobs. If we get tired, we just turn the app off and go home.

We are truly independent. We are our own bosses -- which means that you're still working for a jerk, but at least the jerk is you.

I'm quite sure MinnieVan drivers do not work that way. They might work for some contractor company, like the valet dudes -- but they do NOT work for Lyft.

However, if they are working for a contractor company, I have to say that Disney is seriously scamming the public and that is just not like Disney.

I know that you drive and provide rides all around Disney as I have read your posts for a while. Too be honest, the reason that we use Minnie Vans are because we are "old school" and getting into a strangers car without having any control worries us. Would I like to save money? Yes! In fact, I try over and over to convince myself to just use Lyft and/or Uber but having a 7 year old in the car with me makes me unbelievably nervous. I have read only a few posts on this board where posters have indicated that their driver didn't speak english very well or didn't know where they were going and that they were nervous. Yes, only a few reports like this.

My question to all of this is, how do I know what the driver is like BEFORE they get to me? How do I know that they seem ok before I plop my 7 year old in a stranger's car? I do not mean this as sarcasm, I am truly asking. We live in rural area and don't have or need this type of service anywhere around where we live. Also, is there any way to request a certain driver? Am I able to set something up ahead of time if I find something that I am comfortable with? (Ex: can I work with you to drive us? LOL)
 
I know that you drive and provide rides all around Disney as I have read your posts for a while.
Actually I don't drive in the Orlando market. I drive in Miami. Joel and probably a couple of other posters here drive in Orlando.
I have read only a few posts on this board where posters have indicated that their driver didn't speak english very well or didn't know where they were going and that they were nervous. Yes, only a few reports like this.
Yep, that's a legitimate problem in Orlando, and also in Miami. Both locations have many refugees from Puerto Rico (hurricanes) and Venezuela (political chaos) who have come to Florida to survive, to make a better life, or to work temporarily until things are better at home. Some of them speak English, and some don't.

To be perfectly honest, not speaking English is not that big of a deal if you can follow the GPS -- but it does present some difficulties in certain situations. I face the same issues as a driver here in Miami because I often get riders who don't speak English. Or...they say they don't speak English because they aren't fluent and they're embarrassed by their accents. Many of them can actually communicate just fine, but they have an accent.

You'll also get some drivers who don't know their way around very well. Disney can be confusing at times. That's a legitimate issue with some drivers, no matter what language they speak, and the GPS doesn't always solve those dilemmas perfectly.

With MV drivers, you should have neither of those problems, but you won't have them with a lot of Uber/Lyft drivers either.

My question to all of this is, how do I know what the driver is like BEFORE they get to me? How do I know that they seem ok before I plop my 7 year old in a stranger's car? I do not mean this as sarcasm, I am truly asking. We live in rural area and don't have or need this type of service anywhere around where we live.
No need to qualify your question -- it's a GREAT question. Safety questions are the most legitimate question anyone could ask.

Taxis, shuttles, limos, car services, etc are regulated at the county (and sometimes city) level -- so those standards vary greatly.

In Florida, the rideshare industry is regulated at the state level. Florida's statewide requirements for RIDESHARE background investigations are very stringent, and include the following:
  • Criminal history and warrants checks -- local, state, and federal (FBI)
  • Florida sexual predator list check
  • Federal sexual predator list check
  • Terrorist watch list check
  • Complete driving history check
  • Valid driver's license and vehicle registration verification
In addition to those, Uber (not Lyft) uses a service which continuously monitors drivers' backgrounds. Any ticket, arrest, summons, etc is immediately forwarded to Uber and reviewed to see if that driver should continue on the platform. If there is any question, the driver is temporarily suspended until a complete investigation is finished -- which can take several weeks.

Incidentally, MinnieVan drivers operate on the Lyft app, so each of them would also have to undergo that entire background investigation above.

There are also some important safety features in both the driver app and the rider app. The most important are the description of the car (including tag number) name and picture of the driver, and the fact that every ride is double-tracked in real time. Rides are tracked on the driver's app and also on your rider app on your phone. You also have the ability to share your ride progress in real time with friends or family. (all of these features also apply to MV because the rides are conducted on the Lyft app.)
Also, is there any way to request a certain driver? Am I able to set something up ahead of time if I find something that I am comfortable with? (Ex: can I work with you to drive us? LOL)
Two answers to that -- No, and maybe.

No, there is no way for you to request a specific driver through the Uber or Lyft app. The app algorithm typically assigns your ride request to the closest driver in the particular car category you request in order to provide quicker pickups and better service.

Maybe -- there is a smartphone app called Uzurv which will pair you with a specific driver. You enter the details of your trip in advance (typically the day before) and Uzurv publishes your ride request to all of its participating drivers in the area where you are. Drivers indicate their interest and you are notified. You then have the ability to review the driver's profile (self-reported), see what kind of car they drive, etc. You pick a driver and make arrangements with them. The ride itself is then conducted on-app, with all of the safety features that provides.
 
Actually I don't drive in the Orlando market. I drive in Miami. Joel and probably a couple of other posters here drive in Orlando. Yep, that's a legitimate problem in Orlando, and also in Miami. Both locations have many refugees from Puerto Rico (hurricanes) and Venezuela (political chaos) who have come to Florida to survive, to make a better life, or to work temporarily until things are better at home. Some of them speak English, and some don't.

To be perfectly honest, not speaking English is not that big of a deal if you can follow the GPS -- but it does present some difficulties in certain situations. I face the same issues as a driver here in Miami because I often get riders who don't speak English. Or...they say they don't speak English because they aren't fluent and they're embarrassed by their accents. Many of them can actually communicate just fine, but they have an accent.

You'll also get some drivers who don't know their way around very well. Disney can be confusing at times. That's a legitimate issue with some drivers, no matter what language they speak, and the GPS doesn't always solve those dilemmas perfectly.

With MV drivers, you should have neither of those problems, but you won't have them with a lot of Uber/Lyft drivers either.

No need to qualify your question -- it's a GREAT question. Safety questions are the most legitimate question anyone could ask.

Taxis, shuttles, limos, car services, etc are regulated at the county (and sometimes city) level -- so those standards vary greatly.

In Florida, the rideshare industry is regulated at the state level. Florida's statewide requirements for RIDESHARE background investigations are very stringent, and include the following:
  • Criminal history and warrants checks -- local, state, and federal (FBI)
  • Florida sexual predator list check
  • Federal sexual predator list check
  • Terrorist watch list check
  • Complete driving history check
  • Valid driver's license and vehicle registration verification
In addition to those, Uber (not Lyft) uses a service which continuously monitors drivers' backgrounds. Any ticket, arrest, summons, etc is immediately forwarded to Uber and reviewed to see if that driver should continue on the platform. If there is any question, the driver is temporarily suspended until a complete investigation is finished -- which can take several weeks.

Incidentally, MinnieVan drivers operate on the Lyft app, so each of them would also have to undergo that entire background investigation above.

There are also some important safety features in both the driver app and the rider app. The most important are the description of the car (including tag number) name and picture of the driver, and the fact that every ride is double-tracked in real time. Rides are tracked on the driver's app and also on your rider app on your phone. You also have the ability to share your ride progress in real time with friends or family. (all of these features also apply to MV because the rides are conducted on the Lyft app.)
Two answers to that -- No, and maybe.

No, there is no way for you to request a specific driver through the Uber or Lyft app. The app algorithm typically assigns your ride request to the closest driver in the particular car category you request in order to provide quicker pickups and better service.

Maybe -- there is a smartphone app called Uzurv which will pair you with a specific driver. You enter the details of your trip in advance (typically the day before) and Uzurv publishes your ride request to all of its participating drivers in the area where you are. Drivers indicate their interest and you are notified. You then have the ability to review the driver's profile (self-reported), see what kind of car they drive, etc. You pick a driver and make arrangements with them. The ride itself is then conducted on-app, with all of the safety features that provides.
This is a really great post. Thanks for all of this information. I will be more likely to choose Uber or regular Lyft, over Minnie Van service, on future visits because of what you have shared here (except when we require two car seats). We have enjoyed using the Minnie Vans since the service was rolled out, but the price is really high. On our last trip we had several fares that were over $50 once the suggested tip was added. It really adds up over the course of a trip.
 
I don't criticize people for being concerned about safety in an Uber or Lyft. But where I live (not Florida), riding in an Uber or Lyft is preferable to riding in a cab, in my personal opinion.

With a cab, you have no idea when (or if) they are arriving. I have called after 30 minutes and the dispatcher didn't know when the cab might arrive.

If there is a problem, there may be no record of you being in that particular cab. I assume Uber and Lyft know that I am in the vehicle since there is a record of my rides in my account.

I had a cab driver arrive with a passenger in the front seat; they stopped and dropped that person off somewhere on the way to my destination. (I have no idea who that passenger was.) I had a cab driver stop before I reached my destination because he wanted to pick up his next passenger without having to drive back to get the person.

If I want to pay with a credit card in a cab, I am either using a credit card reader in the back seat that a previous rider might have tampered with, or I am handing my credit card to a driver who might have tampered with their own credit card reader. With Uber/Lyft, I pay through the app.

Uber and Lyft drivers know they are being rated so they may try to keep the interior of their vehicles clean. The cabs here are nasty inside.

No matter what kind of background checks they are doing on the cab drivers here, I still have more confidence in Uber and Lyft.
 
I agree with everything you said, but I want to expound on a couple of the items...
With a cab, you have no idea when (or if) they are arriving. I have called after 30 minutes and the dispatcher didn't know when the cab might arrive.
This, as much as lower fares, is probably the main driver of Uber/Lyft business traveler rides. Before you request the ride, you get an approximate ETA for the car (as well as the fare) -- and it's pretty accurate. Pickup is almost always quick and easy.

I live in a heavily populated suburb of Miami. For me to get a cab is a 45-60 minute wait, and I have the same problem of not really knowing when (or IF) they will actually show up.
If there is a problem, there may be no record of you being in that particular cab. I assume Uber and Lyft know that I am in the vehicle since there is a record of my rides in my account.
Yes, your ride is actually double-tracked, and in real time, not after the fact. It's tracked on both the driver's app and the rider's app, and you can share your ride progress with anyone you like -- so they can actually follow your journey. That applies to Uber, Lyft, Disney's MinnieVans, and also to Uber Taxi.

In addition to the double tracking, Uber has several additional protections. One is a very sensitive crash-sensor feature, which detects sudden movements in the driver's phone that might indicate a crash. Another is kind of a time-out indicator. If a driver has a ride in progress and they stop for more than a normal traffic jam or red light time period, a phone call is initiated to be sure everything is ok.

And finally, Uber not only tracks both driver and rider during a ride, they also track them post-ride. Drivers are tracked constantly, and the rider is tracked for a few minutes following the ride completion. The purpose of that tracking is to guard against the driver returning to the rider after the ride is completed. If that happens, the rider is called to be sure everything is OK.

I had a cab driver arrive with a passenger in the front seat; they stopped and dropped that person off somewhere on the way to my destination. (I have no idea who that passenger was.) I had a cab driver stop before I reached my destination because he wanted to pick up his next passenger without having to drive back to get the person.
In most urban markets (not Orlando), you can get that with Uber/Lyft as well -- BUT...you know about it up front. Those rides are a separate category of shared rides as reduced fares -- Uber Pool and Lyft Shared. But it's something YOU, the rider, choose -- not the driver.
 
The only reason I would choose a Minnie over Lyft is if I'm in a hurry and want to be dropped off right at MK. Like this up-coming Saturday. We will request a MV from our Disney Springs resort around 7pm. I'm expecting it not to show up as quickly as a Lyft or Uber.
And I have to admit, it irks me to tip the driver, but I will. I know its not their fault that Disney is charging this much.
 
The only reason I would choose a Minnie over Lyft is if I'm in a hurry and want to be dropped off right at MK. Like this up-coming Saturday. We will request a MV from our Disney Springs resort around 7pm. I'm expecting it not to show up as quickly as a Lyft or Uber.
And I have to admit, it irks me to tip the driver, but I will. I know its not their fault that Disney is charging this much.
If you're in a hurry, you might be better off ordering Uber or a regular Lyft instead of MV. Pickup will almost certainly be quicker and both can drop you off at the Contemporary. Just a short walk, and you're at MK...and at a fraction of the price.
 
Really? do you think the wait for a MV would be longer than the walk from the Contemporary? Won't the app show me where the closest ones are to my hotel when I order it?
 
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Really? do you think the wait for a MV would be longer than the walk from the Contemporary? Won't the app show me where the closest ones are to my hotel when I order it?
To be honest, I'm not quite sure what the Lyft app display is with MinnieVans.

It's not a regular ride, so I suspect there would be a brief period while the app tries to pair you with a MV. If that is successful, I assume it would give you an ETA for pickup. If that ETA is a longish wait, I personally would look for other alternatives.

I have not tried this personally, but Google Maps estimates the walk from CR to the MK entrance at 12 minutes. I just checked the trip on my Uber app and got a 3 minute pickup, about a 16 minute drive-time, and a fare of $9.04 for UberX (up to 4 riders).

So, total time from request to arrival at the MK entrance would be about 30-32 minutes.
 














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