Mind if I ask a question?

[PrincessKsMom]

FWIW, other than the Crabs at Dick's t-shirt, I've never seen anything offensive during my trips at WDW. I'm sure the shirts are there, I've just never seen them. As for tshirts during Gay Days, you're bound to get a few attention seekers during GDs just as much as you would any other time of the year.

As for screaming and threatening kids, yep, been there and done that personally. It happens. Think what you will, but show me one parent who hasn't ever lost their temper with their child/children. And you're just as likely to see a parent lose it anywhere else, as you are in WDW. It doesn't just happen in WDW (just like the offensive shirts).

 

[NHdisneylover]

FWIW, other than the Crabs at Dick's t-shirt, I've never seen anything offensive during my trips at WDW. I'm sure the shirts are there, I've just never seen them. As for tshirts during Gay Days, you're bound to get a few attention seekers during GDs just as much as you would any other time of the year.

As for screaming and threatening kids, yep, been there and done that personally. It happens. Think what you will, but show me one parent who hasn't ever lost their temper with their child/children. And you're just as likely to see a parent lose it anywhere else, as you are in WDW. It doesn't just happen in WDW (just like the offensive shirts).

My point is that the shirts don't bother me all that much and I do not see more such shirts (worn by people of any orientation) at Disney than I do other places (accounting for the crowd levels)--in fact I see fewer, but I do see considerably more yelling at and threatening kids (again accounting for crowd levels) and THAT does bother ME.

Yep I have lost it a few times (can I just say 12-13 is a hard age all around), but I still hate to see it and I really hate to see serious threats and truly cruel tones and I have never done that. Yes, I do see it other place, but I also do see it much, much more at WDW. I attribute it largely to over tired, over heated, over hungry kids and parents. I do think a lot of parents build of this dream vacation in their minds regarding WDW and when their child does not fufill his/her part of the dream (by loving every second of it and not minding the long days/heat/crowds/scary rides) they get really upset and take it out on the child. This type of behaviour (of which 99% that i have seen has been at WDW) goes way beyond typical kid and parent meltdown.
I especially can't stand the "I spent $xxx to get you here you WILL enjoy it" comments while dragging a crying child onto a scary ride or into the park late in the day or whatever. We hear some version of that pretty much at least once a day at WDW

 

[PrincessKsMom]

Yep I have lost it a few times (can I jsut say 12-13 is a hard age all around), but I still hate to see it and I really hate to see serious threats and truly cruel tones and I have never done that. Yes, I do see it other place, but I also do see it much, much more at WDW. I attribute it largely to over tired, over heated, over hungry kids and parents. I do think a lot of parents build of this dream vacation in their minds regarding WDW and when their child does not fufill his/her part of the dream (by loving every second of it and not minding the long days/heat/crowds/scary rides) they get really upset and take it out on the child. This type of behaviour (of which 99% that i have seen has been at WDW) goes way beyond typical kid and parent meltdown.
I especially can't stand the "I spent $xxx to get you here you WILL enjoy it" comments while dragging a crying child onto a scary ride or into the park late in the day or whatever. We hear some version of that pretty much at least once a day at WDW

Anyway--my point is that the shirts don't bother me all that much and I do not see more such shirts (worn by people of any orientation) at Disney than I do other places (accounting for the crowd levels)--in fact I see fewer, but I do see considerably more yelling at and threatening kids (again accounting for crowd levels) and THAT does bother ME.

I completely understand your reference to age (mine is 14 ) and to the degree with which people lose it. I think Disney does tend to bring out the worst in everyone due to the overloaded schedules, stimulation, etc.

And BTW, were you following me around in April: "I spent $xxx to get you here you WILL enjoy it". DD chose this as her graduation present, then spent the entire time on the cell phone texting with her boyfriend. Yep, that phrase came out of my mouth 1 or 2 times. I know that's not the context you're referring to, just thought I'd bring a little humor (and a few admissions) to the thread.

 

[sirJeffrey90]

Although Hooters shirts might be inappropriate for young girls, I'd hardly think it's offensive. Shirts that say or depict offensive and tacky messages is the point vjgkam is trying to make here. And Rosie, it is human nature for negative instances to stand out in a crowd and in our minds.

 

[wallyb]

I'd hardly think it's offensive.

... and that is YOUR opinion.

Not mine.

 

[hematite153]

Although Hooters shirts might be inappropriate for young girls, I'd hardly think it's offensive.

... and that is YOUR opinion.

Not mine.

I agree with Wally on this one.

I've got some fairly large assets myself, but, I find it horrifying the way our society seems to think it's a good idea to teach young girls that their self esteem should reside in their chest.

 

[wallyb]

I agree with Wally on this one.

I've got some fairly large assets myself, but, I find it horrifying the way our society seems to think it's a good idea to teach young girls that their self esteem should reside in their chest.

I've seen little boys with them on too-
Dad's Proud as punch at their future "Stud muffin"

 

[rosiep]

Although Hooters shirts might be inappropriate for young girls, I'd hardly think it's offensive. Shirts that say or depict offensive and tacky messages is the point vjgkam is trying to make here. And Rosie, it is human nature for negative instances to stand out in a crowd and in our minds.

I guess I'm just not a negative person. I hardly ever share what was wrong with a trip, or a day, or an encounter as much as I try to find the positive and share that. I was there for Gay Days this year, I didn't scrutinize everyone's shirt or their behavior...GAY OR STRAIGHT.

As Jamie pointed out, it's very hard to take someones "observations" regarding Gay Days seriously when they have such a low post count. (and mind you...they haven't come back).

 

[hematite153]

I've seen little boys with them on too-
Dad's Proud as punch at their future "Stud muffin"

Ugh!

 

[hematite153]

I guess I'm just not a negative person.

Very true! (At least not in what I've seen online having never met you in person.) You really do seem to have a way of seeing everything in a good light and enjoying life.

 

[NHdisneylover]

I've gotta go with Wally on little kids in Hooters shirts and the like. Those bother me more than just about anything on a teen or adult because i feel like the kids probably have no idea what double entenders they are wearing and/or how they are being sexualized by the stuff. I suppose once in a while the kid picked it out and knows all about what it means, but that is even worse in its own way.

Oh, and Rosie, you are just all around awesome

 

[wallyb]

Very true! (At least not in what I've seen online having never met you in person.) You really do seem to have a way of seeing everything in a good light and enjoying life.

Except when she's calling people fat.

 

[rosiep]

Very true! (At least not in what I've seen online having never met you in person.) You really do seem to have a way of seeing everything in a good light and enjoying life.

Thank you, that's so very sweet of you to say.

Oh, and Rosie, you are just all around awesome

again, thank you.

Except when she's calling people fat.

If the girdle fits....

 

[Crashdown]

As Long as the type of gut who would wear a "hooters", "twin peaks" or "Dick's" t-shirt keep their t-shirt ON. I'm good.

(I've seen some scary stuff at Universal Studios - Things you can't un-see)

 

[MAF]

What's wrong w/ wearing a Hooters T-shirt? That would probably be the last thing I would find offensive. The obese old men who wear the skin tight muscle shirts w/ their hairy pits showing at WDW is another story...

 

[dis75ney]

I was at Gay Days last year and I don't recall seeing anything offensive with the exception of the "This is my 'O' face" shirt. And the only reason I remember that one is because I had to explain to my eight year old son what an "O" face was. I ended up telling DS that an "O" face was the face one made when going down the big hill on a roller coaster, which then caused DS to make all sorts of weird faces on the ride photos and announcing to all who would listen that he had made the best "O" face ever...

 

[rosiep]

I was at Gay Days last year and I don't recall seeing anything offensive with the exception of the "This is my 'O' face" shirt. And the only reason I remember that one is because I had to explain to my eight year old son what an "O" face was. I ended up telling DS that an "O" face was the face one made when going down the big hill on a roller coaster, which then caused DS to make all sorts of weird faces on the ride photos and announcing to all who would listen that he had made the best "O" face ever...

That's too funny! Thanks for sharing.

 

[hematite153]

What's wrong w/ wearing a Hooters T-shirt?

Didn't I already explain this?

Anything that sexualizes a young child can be very psychologically damaging. Two easy examples that we've mentioned:
- A young girl who learns that her worth as a person is in her chest not her mind/artistry/etc.
- A young boy who learns that he needs to objectify women in order to make his father proud.

 

[Crashdown]

Well said, hematite153.

 

[MAF]

It's a resteraunt that has good wings. Let's not get cray-zay.