Military wives --- is it just me?

Originally posted by poohbear1029
I'm not going to be the one who gets him in trouble cause I am arrested, drunk & disorderly on the general's lawn, etc!!! ;) That's just not me!!


You will be a breath of fresh air to those military spouses and I envy them for that!!!!! With that great attitude, you will undoubtedly be a great asset to DH and your family!!!

Stay happy, positive and sweet!

Rae
 
Originally posted by poohbear1029
I do also have to say that I think DH and I have missed out on many friendships with enlisted in my husband's office that could have grown closer were it not for the fraternization "rules"!!!

Oh yeah, another one with the civilian background. I never get those rules. We were going on vacation, and one of our neighbors was a sergeant with Bryan's ROTC unit - he was a 2nd LT assigned to the same unit he graduated from, so this was a guy who used to be Bry's teacher, and now Bry outranked him. Anyway, I wanted to get the sgt to watch our cats while we were gone, but Bryan said he couldn't ask because of the rules. :rolleyes:
Also, I'm friends with several enlisted wives online, and I really don't want things to be awkward if/when we ever meet up in real life. I just don't understand why I can't be friends with people I want to be friends with. Well, I understand, but... It's stupid!

Originally posted by poohbear1029
DH almost had a pilots slot, but did not make it thru the first round of training. He had warned me it would probably be 180 days TDY a year!!!

:eek: What? No one told me that!
Actually, at this point, he's in the trainer that could lead to E-1s, which are deployed ALL the time. So I'm hoping and praying he doesn't get them.
 
Also, I'm friends with several enlisted wives online, and I really don't want things to be awkward if/when we ever meet up in real life. I just don't understand why I can't be friends with people I want to be friends with. Well, I understand, but... It's stupid!

Actually, there isn't anything wrong with you being friends with the spouses of enlisted members. If it was a very close friendship, there might be some questions about whether or not the military officer/enlisted spouses are friends as well.

If you are friends with enlisted spouses over the internet, and your DH doesn't even know the military member, there is nothing whatsoever wrong with it, and there is no reason for there to ever be anything awkward during face to face meetings.
 
I know that I'm late, but I'll add my 2 cents worth anyway (why don't keyboards have cent signs???).

I was a Navy wife for almost 28 years, mostly as an enlisted wife- and later as a warrant officer's wife (still considered officer's country).

I also worked 40+ hours a week, and although I was invited to the Wive's Club monthly meetings and soirees as we (?) were transferred to each command; I'd go to the first couple of meetings to see which way the wind was blowing.

Now let me say that although there are numerous Spouse's Clubs throughout the Armed Forces services that do focus on community and support, most were going in a direction that I really wasn't comfortable with. They knew that they could count on my help for command support when the guys were away- but I just couldn't stomach the gossip.

On the other hand, I'd show up to help with things and attend get-togethers when none of the other spouses would. I would say that my experience was NOT the norm though (I hope).

I supported my DH during his Navy career, but in the ways that HE needed, not the political side. He did quite well (better than he would have thought), and is now in the midst of his second career- using his Navy knowledge to find an enjoyable position in a field close to his heart.

I hope that this helps, even though I'm a bit late with it.
 

Keyboards may not have them anymore, but pressing the "alt" key and 155 at the same time will give:

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Originally posted by AirForceRocks
If you are friends with enlisted spouses over the internet, and your DH doesn't even know the military member, there is nothing whatsoever wrong with it, and there is no reason for there to ever be anything awkward during face to face meetings.

I don't know - it's more, sometimes there awkwardness online, and I'm afraid that will become more prevalent when/if we ever meet. Actually, one of my closer friend, who I have met IRL, has been helping integrate our group - she's the daughter of a retired AF colonel, but married to an enlisted Army fellow.
 
Katerkat ---

I think it is truly only considered inappropriate if your DH has a close working relationship with the enlisted person and it could be perceived that your DH or enlisted person could professionally benefit from the relationship.....same holds true among ranks....for example, most 2nd Lt's and 4 star general's aren't regular golf partners (for more reasons than one)....but if they were, it could be perceived that the 2nd Lt had something to gain by bring friends. DH has always told me that it is all about perception. You should have no fear about making friends online with people of different military rank than your husband.



Hey....we should start a standing military spouse thread so we can bounce these things off eachother and vent (as I had in my OP)!
 
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ANOTHER mystery solved!!! :)

Thanks BrerMom!!!!!
 
poohbear1029-

Like you I am glad this thread did not become a major argument, especially since I was the first to "disagree." Based on what I have been reading, you have gotten some awesome advice, and your DH sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders.

If you have the time, here is my full story...

DH is a fighter pilot. Within the AF, there are non-pilots and pilots which you know. Within the pilot community, there are fighter pilots, then there is everyone else. This is not to say anything bad about non-pilots (I am one of the non-pilot types) or non-fighter pilots, but if you have been around pilots, you can feel those categories. Anyway, I was well on my way with my AF career, swearing I would never even date a fighter pilot, much less marry one. And I did hold true to that conviction until I met DH.

When we were dating, most of the wives were nice women who accepted me for me. However, there were those few out there that considered me a second class citizen because I was merely a girlfriend/fiancee, not a wife. In fact, I was invited to a wives coffee before DH and I got married. I attended, then later was told I should not have attended since DH and I were not married yet. My response, " Then why the H#($ was I invited?". No good response to that.

After DH and I got married, the same women who didn't want me at the coffee before our wedding wanted to be my best friends. At which point I decided that I did not have the time to deal with women like that. Fortunately, we PCSed 5 months later. At the new base, I was fortunate to find other professional wives. I started attending squadron wives functions when I could, but I shunned the OWC. That was not my deal.

At the unit we are in now, most of the women are professional women who are my age. Their kids are the same age as my kids and most of us have opted out of the professional world for an extended period of time to be with our kids. Our husbands deploy together, so we form our own support group. Despite the differences in our backgrounds, the similarities in our current situation draw us together. Fortunately in te ANG, the OWC is not a factor; however, we do have a few women who consider their husbands career their own. I feel fortunate to know these women, even the ones who wear their husband's career on their sleeves. If nothing else, they have showed me what NOT to do as DH progresses in his career. LOL

As for my military career, I probably have one more promotion in my future, but only if I start playing the political games erquired of military memebers, not spouses. If I get that promotion, I will be happy to retire my military career in another 7 years. If not, I will still retire in 7 years; I will just be disappointed.

Enjoy your marriage, and remember that it is always more impotant that your career or your DH's career. By the way, if Popdaddy reads this post...sorry so long!
 
I feel fortunate to know these women, even the ones who wear their husband's career on their sleeves. If nothing else, they have showed me what NOT to do as DH progresses in his career. LOL

God bless you for that!!! Wives like this (and in my experience, it is wives - I've never seen a husband act this way) give such a bad reputation to officers' wives. I know most wives are not like this, but once you've been given "the treatment" from an officer's wife, it leaves a pretty sour taste in your mouth.

I've also seen it in some enlisted spouses, especially Chiefs' wives, but not as often.
 
even the ones who wear their husband's career on their sleeves. If nothing else, they have showed me what NOT to do as DH progresses in his career.

That MUST have been my SIL:p !
 
Originally posted by jwsqrdplus2
poohbear1029-

Like you I am glad this thread did not become a major argument, especially since I was the first to "disagree." Based on what I have been reading, you have gotten some awesome advice, and your DH sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders.


Yes, DH does have a good head on his shoulders. I definitely also agree with you that our marriage comes first....and I think that that is a concept sometimes lost on the red tape of the military!!! We will continue to take his career one assignment at a time and see where it leads and I will continue to be who I am......and believe me it will not be the wife who wears her DH's rank for him!!! LOL!!!

Thank you for sharing your story. I hope we get a chance to chat again! BTW- DH is also a non-pilot....he is a Civil Engineer, which in AF world, as I understand is as far as you can get from a "pilot's world"!!!
 


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