Military $99 5-Day Tickets

[ftwildernessguy]

Actually, to be fair-no rules are being bent-the companion passes are for whomever the service member sees fit to give them to and really isn't up to anyone else's approval.

To quote my father "I don't get all this adulation for the military. We signed up, we did a job we were paid to do, no one forced us to re-enlist, a thank you is nice but give it a rest-it's a job. No one else gets all this for doing what they're paid to do-police officers certainly don't" Yes he is retired Air Force as well as a retired police officer.

That is my father's opinion and although I don't necessarily agree with him, I do see his point.

As far as being a military dependent...I am grateful for my years as a military child as well as a military wife HOWEVER...you choose to join and/or stay in the military, you choose to marry into the military-no one chooses to be born into the military...and you certainly don't get paid for it.

I'm not boo hooing and whining about being a military dependent anymore than you are boo hooing and whining about being active duty--just stating the facts-just as you did.

We learned early on not to get too close to friends or too attached to anyone because either your family or theirs would be transferred fairly soon anyway. Don't get too attached to a school because you won't be there long anyway. Be happy with seeing your grandparents and other extended family maybe once a year.

Pretend you don't hear mom crying in the bathroom when dad is gone, put his aftershave on a hand towel and put it in your pillowcase so you won't miss him so much. Pretend that hearing his voice on your birthday on a cruddy overseas phone connection is just as good as him being there and pretend you are never afraid he will not come home.

So, the next time you are tempted to think dependents are "gaming the system" and didn't "put their time in", think again and think about the perceived slap in the face you may be handing out. You are not the only one with feelings nor the only one with past service related demons.

Shan, you are entitled to whatever your father wants to give you and it is with Disney's blessing.

BDR, you are entitled to the same thing. Your friend wishes to gift you with his companion passes therefore you are entitled to them by his wishes.

ftwildernessguy, I thank you for your service just as I thank my father for his and I hope you, all service members, and their friends/family are able to enjoy the "thank you" Disney has extended.

You obviously have missed my point, and couldn't be more wrong with your presumption of me.

Re. the bending of rules - there are several posts on this thread doing just that.

 

[Cindy F]

You obviously have missed my point, and couldn't be more wrong with your presumption of me.

Re. the bending of rules - there are several posts on this thread doing just that.

I haven't made any presumptions about you, I don't know you but you seem like a fairly nice guy.

I'm saying that your comments are hurtful and inflammatory to some. I'm sure there are plenty of people who are not offended by what you said, but I thought it was harsh and was just stating my opinion of your comments. Specifically:

...I get a little edgy with some people who sat in their lazy boys watching TV by the fire and want to distort the rules so they can have a benefit offered to the military.....

I sometimes get frustrated with the rule benders who want to cash in on a benefit extended to those who did their time. I mean, if you want the benefit, do the job. JMHO.

There again, I'm not saying anyone should have to walk on eggshells to protect someone else's feelings from getting hurt but I am saying that others should be able to state their opinions as well.

I have not visited/posted on this board since it was requested that I leave however, in looking for military ticket info for dad and one of my patients-I came across your post and thought it was harsh.

Again, just my opinion.

 

[ftwildernessguy]

If nothing else, I am concise and blunt. Just the way it is. As far as I can see, the only people who would be offended by my statement are the ones who want to bend rules to get a benefit Disney is extending to the military. In the words of Forest Gump: "And that's all I have to say about that."

cya

 

[Cindy F]

If nothing else, I am concise and blunt. Just the way it is. As far as I can see, the only people who would be offended by my statement are the ones who want to bend rules to get a benefit Disney is extending to the military. In the words of Forest Gump: "And that's all I have to say about that."

cya

...and this is where I would say "you have obviously missed MY point and couldn't be more wrong with your presumption of me" but, I don't think you did miss my point at all.

I think some people are just more comfortable in rationalizing and justifying their behavior, it makes it easier for them to live with themselves.

Disney is extending an offer to active duty/retired military AND their companions...as defined by that particular service member...not by anyone else. If you feel that people who did not serve in the military should not use a companion pass, then use the companion passes allotted to you for service members only.

Everyone has opinions- I felt your comments were harsh, passive aggressive comments directed toward those who "did not do the job" and stated that opinion. You stated your opinion as well.

 

[seabee]

I don't think that Jim's response was meant at all as a slap in the face to dependants. Being a dependant myself, I found nothing wrong with what he said. We were discussing the fact that it is dependants(not just in this thread) or those lucky enough to be offered the companion tickets complaining about having to ALL be there to acitvate cards, and dependants/companions complaining about having to buy all 5 tickets at once, etc. What Jim was saying is that, dependants/companions are lucky to be included in this offer. Disney could have just offered a ticket to the active member, didn't even need to include retired veterans. Just be happy in the fact you are getting this deal and just do what they say to do to receive it. Stop whining about or finding ways to get around what you have to do to get it and then turn around and post for everyone how you did it. Which in turn leads MORE people to do the same. That is all that was meant by the post in my opinion. Again, I'm not specifically talking about this thread, there are several floating around on this site, and other sites.

By the way, Disney HAS offered this deal in the past to police and firemen, as well as military. In 2002 and 2003 it was offered to military members, policemen, and firemen. They got the free ticket and then could get up to 5 companion tickets. Yes I agree that our military men and women signed up for this life, as well as police and firemen/women. This offer as well as those in the past are simply meant as a thank you, and why not. These men and women put themselves in harms way most every day for us. That CEO, office worker or McDonalds worker generally can't say the same thing.

For myself it is irritatating as well, and I'm a dependant. Believe me, I know more then anyone what it is to give things up due to my DH being in the service, we live it EVERY day. This is an excellent offer, just follow the freakin rules the way they want, and be done with it. If the rules don't work for you or it's too inconvenient for you to get to the CS window when you need to, then pay for your reg. ticket and get on with life. Simple as that. That's all we have been saying, and that's all Jim was saying. No one was saying Shan or Rog should not be receiving the tickets, because your right, it's our choice who we give the tickets to. We were just saying that the rules of aquiring and activation should be followed, and asking that posts about how people got around or somehow didn't completely follow the rules be kept private. That way people looking for info don't read it and then think they can have the same outcome, because they may not and that could really cast a shadow on someone's vacation.

 

[Cindy F]

I don't think that Jim's response was meant at all as a slap in the face to dependants. Being a dependant myself, I found nothing wrong with what he said.....


This is an excellent offer, just follow the freakin rules the way they want, and be done with it. If the rules don't work for you or it's too inconvenient for you to get to the CS window when you need to, then pay for your reg. ticket and get on with life. Simple as that. That's all we have been saying, and that's all Jim was saying.

I'm glad you found nothing wrong with it, but I did. You are welcome to state your opinion as am I.

As far as the second statement- I disagree. Again, the statements I am referring to are:

...I get a little edgy with some people who sat in their lazy boys watching TV by the fire and want to distort the rules so they can have a benefit offered to the military.....

and

...I sometimes get frustrated with the rule benders who want to cash in on a benefit extended to those who did their time. I mean, if you want the benefit, do the job...

Stating "if you want the benefit do the job"..like those who "did their time" has nothing to do with bending activation rules.

As far as the military deal and all the many posts on different forums, I have seen them and I have to say...I never did understand why people get so upset thinking that someone is going to get something they don't "deserve". Actually, I don't understand getting upset at all over someone else's vacation plans.

Then again, I have seen knock down drag outs on various forums over someone not liking someone else's favorite resort so it's not a huge surprise.

 

[ftwildernessguy]

Nah, I'm just in a mood. In 27 years I slept in holes in the ground, waded thru swamps, ate unspeakable things, lived in tents in sandstorms, was sent to hostile fire zones in places where people wanted to kill me, saw angry Russian soldiers up close and personal, jumped from planes, was tossed out of helicopters in the middle of nowhere, treated patients while the freakin Navy threw shells over my head from some darn battleship 20 miles off shore (I'll never get over that one) and I get a little edgy with some people who sat in their lazy boys watching TV by the fire and want to distort the rules so they can have a benefit offered to the military. I'll be over it tonight after my Merlot. Hey, I should probably be happy I lived thru all that crap and still have all my arms and legs and half my mind. I had some patients who couldn't say that.

This is actually my entire quote in response to something Roger posted. Since you like to quote me, at least do it in it's entirety and stop taking what I say out of context. I have no issues with Roger, Shan or anyone else getting these tickets. I was influenced to write what I did because several people were posting about how they didn't follow the rules regarding these passes and seemingly got away with it, and were suggesting others do the same. The discussion was pretty civil up until now, and I have talked to Shan and Roger on other threads since and on facebook and apparently the only one who took what I said personally was you, Cindy.

 

[Shan-man]

She's not the only one, but like you said, you were in a mood. I get in moods too. It's usually best to just let moodiness slide. I know which battles to avoid. Makes me think of the sword fight from Monty Python's Holy Grail... no matter how many blows are landed the fight is never won, the armless legless knight can still trash-talk.

My final word on this matter is that Disney seems to be looking to give these tickets to everyone they can justify doing it for, so if you're offended, take it up with them.

Kingbee, your comments rise to the level of personal attack and I don't appreciate the way you're treating Cindy... how about trying to be a gentleman?

 

[stacktester]

Isn't there anything better to fight over than this. Get a friggin life. I'll go refill my mug that's 6 years old now.

 

[ntsammy5]

Gee, I missed all the fun!

 

[ftwildernessguy]

If it was noon, I'd have a Blue Moon. Ah, what the hell. Who's with me?

 

[ntsammy5]

Anyone ready for a beer?

That's me at the head of the line!

 

[Shan-man]

My mommy... err, wife, won't let me have beer until noon... so we just had Mimosas instead! It's the 'legitimate' 10am alcohol! LOL

 

[ftwildernessguy]

My mommy... err, wife, won't let me have beer until noon... so we just had Mimosas instead! It's the 'legitimate' 10am alcohol! LOL

It's always noon somewhere in the world.

 

[ftwildernessguy]

Anyone ready for a beer?

That's me at the head of the line!

And my wife would tell you that's me bringing up the rear.

 

[Cindy F]

This is actually my entire quote in response to something Roger posted. Since you like to quote me, at least do it in it's entirety and stop taking what I say out of context. I have no issues with Roger, Shan or anyone else getting these tickets. I was influenced to write what I did because several people were posting about how they didn't follow the rules regarding these passes and seemingly got away with it, and were suggesting others do the same. The discussion was pretty civil up until now, and I have talked to Shan and Roger on other threads since and on facebook and apparently the only one who took what I said personally was you, Cindy.

1) Jim, I am assuming everyone knows how to read a thread, what ellipses are, and what they mean in a quote. Re-quoting your entire post is unnecessary.

2) What part of the discussion is not civil? Just because I disagree with you and state my opinion doesn't make me uncivil any more than it makes you uncivil for stating yours.

3) When did I ever say I spoke for anyone but myself? If you re-read my original post-I did mention that I'm sure there are many people on here who were not offended by your post. My opinion is no less valid just because it belongs to me alone.

3) Again, in my opinion stating "...I sometimes get frustrated with the rule benders who want to cash in on a benefit extended to those who did their time. I mean, if you want the benefit, do the job. JMHO..." really doesn't just address people not being present for ticket activation. JMHO

Isn't there anything better to fight over than this. Get a friggin life. I'll go refill my mug that's 6 years old now.

Posting a differing opinion is not considered fighting, at least it isn't for me.

 

[Shan-man]

Anyone ready for a beer?

That's me at the head of the line!

Mine would say I'm one of the hairy guys toward the middle, only with the "more evolved" gut! Seven minutes til noon.

 

[ftwildernessguy]

It is now afternoon, Shan. Time to pop a top.

I might be offended by another post if it weren't for the almighty ignore list.

 

[Cindy F]

It is now afternoon, Shan. Time to pop a top.

I might be offended by another post if it weren't for the almighty ignore list.

And yet you feel the need to mention it?

Interesting that those who express their own opinions freely feel the most threatened when someone else does the same.

 

[KingBee]

Shan, I was not trying to "personally attack" anyone. Just saying the age old, "if you have nothing decent to say, keep quiet" I was referring to the posters own statement of "I have been asked to leave this forum" All I was saying is, Hey, there was no "arguing" going on before the post, and now, anyone else's opinion is wrong. That's all. If the poster can't contribute something useful, then state your opinion and be done. Don't chastize others for theirs. It is ok for everyone else to get frustrated or irritated from time to time and spout off, but now you are going to hit others on it.

To the poster:
No one was saying it was ONLY dependants/companions bending anything. Someone on another thread was talking about finding a way to get the deal and had NO affiliation to the military at all. Come on. This is what sparked the conversation(and Jim's response) When a person who is eligible to get a deal being offered and sees others that don't trying, it does upset them.(I'm not talking dependants/companions-so don't read into this) In general if something is offered to a group and there is all this crap that goes on about it, usually it won't be offered again. All we are saying is don't ruin it for everyone else. That is what the whole discussion on here has been about. No finger pointing at dependants, or friends, etc. Just talking. Until fingers started being pointed about "discrimination" for lack of a better word, or feelings of superiority towards dependants. NOT TRUE. And I felt I needed to say something since the poster was allowed to run off at the mouth about us. Thats it, now I will take my own advice- I have nothing else productive to say so

Who's got the beer?