Might have to cancel 1st DLRP trip :sad2:

[Booknut]

DHs psycho boss fired him today. Technically he can't do that as he doesn't have the power but things are a bit up in the air right now, DH will either be transferred or they will have to pay him out (he's on 3 months notice). Either way I think i'm going to have to be prudent and cancel the trip.

So we're not having a good day. Sorry to post such a bummer of a post but maybe if enough of you cross your fingers and toes everything will work out ok! Will let you know if anything changes.

Eloise

 

[Bexx]

Oh no - that's terrible! I hope it all works out for your DH. In the meantime I'll send you lots of in the hope that you don't have to cancel your trip.

 

[Joanne UK]

I've got everything crossed that it all works out for you.

Might be worth giving Citizens Advice a ring if the guy that fired your DH isn't technically allowed to do so.?

 

[diberry]

That would be an awful shame!!! I really hope it all works out ok in the end.
Sending

 

[Ware Bears]

Oh Eloise, that is just too awful. Sending you lots of and pixiedust and I will keep everything crossed for you.

 

[Bonnie]

Oh, what a shame. I've read a lot of posts on here and the UK board recently about people having to cancel their trips. It must be very upsetting. *hugs*

I'll have my fingers crossed that you won't have to! If it's any consolation, Eloise is one of my favourite names in the world (with that exact same spelling) and I plan to call my firstborn daughter Eloise, hehe!

 

[Squidge]

Oh now how aweful - keeping everything crossed for you! I do sort of know how you feel as, we have had to cancel our trip to DLRP this year too, due to other money committments. I am really hoping that you do still get to go

Lots of love

Kirsty xxx

 

[Rosie]

Oh bad news Eloise!

Hoping you get some good news soon and don't have to cancel.

 

[Cyrano]

Eloise, hopefully the trip will only be postponed
Sending you lots of so that thinks work out for DH and you

 

[disneyangel]

Sorry to hear that Eloise

My DH found out he was being made redundant just before our trip to DLRP in September. So I know it can be a really unsettling time.He's currently looking for a new job and we're hopeful he will get one in the new year. Apparently that's the best time to be looking so my HR friend advises me so It may be a blessing in disguise ,next year they may both have a new jobs and you can re-book your holiday and even 'upgrade'. I would check out with someone about the way this has been handled though .Try the most senior HR person in the company that should give them a jolt !

Meanwhile here's lots of pixiedust to help
and a hug for good measure.

 

[cannp123165]

I hope everything works out for you and your DH.
Good Luck.
.

 

[bonhoga]

Fingers crossed!

Kaye

 

[DisneyRGB]

Oh Eloise what a shame

I really hope you can go - got everything crossed for you, sounds like you really need some pixie dust

I absolutely agree that your DH should follow this up if this dismissal has not been done by the book. I'm no expert by any means but I'm an HR assistant and know a bit about employment law and a fair bit about disciplinary procedures and dismissals so if you want another opinion, I hope I'd be able to help a bit (or alternatively, I'll ask my boss!!)

 

[Booknut]

Thank you all for your messages, they have helped us a lot!

Basically, my husband works for this really horrible guy who runs the whole depot. He is foul-mouthed, bullying and threatens everyone all the time. Most of the people DH works with are engineers who are on contract so they don't have the same employment rights that a permanent employee has. Luckily DH was made permanent a few months ago.

The head of the UK bit of the corporation (its a big company) came to see DH 2 weeks ago and they spoke for about 2 hours about what was needed to improve things etc. DH said nothing about his boss. Didn't matter, his boss completely lost it when he found out that DH had spoken to the head guy. Fortunately, head guy liked DH and told DH's boss to promote him and give him an assistant.

Fast forward two weeks. DH gets into work yesterday and has his boss screaming the most horrible obscenities at him (he does this all the time) and told him to leave, that he was finished at the company etc. DH was just stunned and said 'right, you want me to go' and then I guess his boss realised that he couldn't really do what he had just done so he said 'get back to your office, I don't want to see you'. And then he went off and yelled some more obscenities at a few of the engineers.

Well I guess DH just had enough so he rang the head of HR who was stunned at what DH had told him and they told him to go home and take the week off. The HR guy rang later, really really agitated (he had obviously just spoken to DH's boss) and Phil apologised because he felt a bit bad for dropping this on his lap on a Monday morning and the HR guy said 'you have absolutely nothing to apologise for'. So i'm guessing DH's boss had a go at the head of HR too.

Right now we're not sure what will happen. A part of DH would love to see his boss transferred and punished because he has bullied everyone at that depot for years, he's fired contractor's for no good reason, people with families, mortgages etc. He is a terrible person who doesn't care at all about his employees. DH hasn't had a lunch break in 2 years. He just works straight from 8am to 4pm and shoves food into his mouth in between people coming in and asking him for stuff and the phone ringing and meetings.

The other part of DH would like them to just pay him out so he can look for something a bit 'saner'. He's on 3 months notice so that might not be something they are willing to do.

Anyway, on Friday the HR guy is coming round to see DH and have a chat and hopefully then we will have a better idea of what will happen. We do know a bit about his rights and i'm sure this HR guy does as well. If they do nothing DH will have to resign and sue for constructive dismissal. This company is international, its a corporation really, they won't ignore this. But DH has said he will under no circumstances go back and work for that guy so we will have to wait and see what his options are.

In relation to our DLRP trip, I rang Thompson up and they said I could push it back to April or May and just pay a £35 change fee so that is reasonable I guess. I had been looking forward to few people and riding things more than once but you can't have it all!

Thanks again for listening, its been great to come on here and chat with everyone and get your support, we really do appreciate it!

Eloise

 

[Joanne UK]

This man sounds absolutely frightful.

I really hope everything works out favourably for you whether DH decides to resign or stays on in the Company but not working for that horrible bully.

 

[Bexx]

With a bit of luck, hopefully this unpleasant episode will turn out to be a good thing for your DH.

If you postpone your trip until April/May, you should get much nicer weather!! And maybe the extra time will give your ankle a chance to get better.

 

[wilki32]

Eloise

I run my own business and recently had the unenviable job of suspending an employee who also has become a friend (we're only a small company) We had to take legal advice before we did anything. Thankfully we did, the fallout this guy may have caused his company could add up to an awful lot. Get your hubby to seek legal advice before the HR guy comes round, it will cost you but will be better in the long run.
On another situation my brother was laid off but was still in his probation. What happened to your hubby was almost identical to my brother, abusive manager that has caused many people to leave but because he's been there for a long time it's accepted! Even though DB was in his probation period and most solicitors had said he didn't have a chance he wrote a letter of grievance and got a settlement!!!
I think your hubby has a very good case whichever way it goes, good luck and hopefully this man will be dealt with in the way he deserves.

Anthony

 

[nicola]

Eloise, I am so sorry that you have been going through a horrible time and your poor husband has been going for 2 years enduring that awful abuse and no lunch I hope it all works out soon. One thing I can say is that we go to DLP every year in May and it is lovely then. The weather is perfect and the park is literally empty at this time of year. There are also plenty of offers on. I hope you will let us know how it all works out.

 

[DisneyRGB]

Eloise

Glad to hear the company's HR department has got involved and seem to be taking it seriously. As a big company especially they will hopefully realise that there are possibly huge consequences of continuing to employ the boss (employment tribunal, compensation etc) and that paying off your husband or transferring the boss won't solve the problem long-term. Although of course I understand why your husband would want to be paid off and be able to look elsewhere for another job. He's certainly breaking the law by not allowing people working an 8 hour shift a lunch break (20 minute break required by law for a shift of more than 6 hours).

Your husband (and others by the sound of it) certainly has a case for harassment and potentially victimisation but constructive dismissal could be a bit tricky. Although undoubtedly your husband has had to endure enough grief that he would feel he had no choice but to resign, recent case law would suggest that judges at employment tribunals don't look favourably on constructive dismissal cases unless the employee has made a complaint through the company's grievance procedure (not sure if your husband did this).

I agree that perhaps you should seek legal advice, for free advice try calling ACAS.

Hope it turns out okay, please let us know how it goes and what you decide about your trip.

 

[Cyrano]

Eloise, your DH has handled himself well and should not feel guilty in the least.
I'm sure the company know that a bad reputation on personnel will not do their image any good.
Good people are hard to find and best wishes for a satisfactory outcome.
Let us know how it goes