Message to MY Daughter in Law: UPDATE!!

Just wanted to respond to a few of the comments:

When I said "I want time with my son", I didn't mean that I didn't want to see my dil. He will always come first in my heart, he is my son. That doesn't mean that I don't care about and accept this girl as his wife. I do want to see her and spend time with both of them. I would not ask him to visit alone, they are a couple and should be together. They are both an important part of this family.

When I said "all of my kids in the same room", I meant ALL. Two sons, one daughter, two dil's, and one granddaughter. I guess I should have said "all of my family". It was just that it struck me that it was the first time in a long time that we had all been together in quite awhile. There was no sense of entitlement, only happiness at that fact.

When I say that we talk every day, I don't mean we have these long conversations on the phone. We text a few sentences or questions back and forth or if we are both on facebook we may chat for a second or two. No long drawn out conversations. Besides, its not up to her to decide if we have talked enough, just like its not up to him to decide if she has talked to her family enough (which she does every day, btw).

When we are all together we talk about things that are going on in the families (his extended family and her family), we talk about his job, this time we talked a lot about the Saints (they are both huge fans) or if its during baseball season we talk about the Braves. She knows all of his friends, so no we do not talk about people she does not know. We do not mention the ex or anyone who may be in contact with her.

I am fully aware that he will have to speak up to change anything and after this visit, I think he will. But, he really shouldn't have to. Dh doesn't have to tell me he wants to spend time with his family, we just do it. Its not like she didn't know he had family and how close he is to them well before she married him.

I do not dislike my dil. But I do not see her through rose colored glasses either. She is spoiled and she is used to having her own way. And she will go to dramatic measures to achieve her way. Mostly we just ignore it, I do not argue with her or comment to him about it one way or the other. Like I said, she knows she is spoiled and wants her own way and she thinks its funny. I think its mostly immaturity.

Bear in mind, this is a young girl that came into this relationship with her own set of friends (as it should be). At some point every single one of these girls have stopped having anything to do with her. Then she became close to ds's friends (many of them life long friends). She has now managed to alienate most of his friends. I have run into these people and been told "we really want to still be friends with xxxx, but we just can't be around her". I do not even ask nor do I comment.
 
I have seen enough daughters screw over their parents to absolutely know that the above saying is SO NOT TRUE.

Again, I repeat, if your son is not seeing you, it is his issue, not his wife's. He needs to take the bull by the horns and let someone know what the score is...either Mama and tell her why he doesn't care to spend time with her or Wife and tell her that she will not dictate his relationship with his family.
 
WOW I would never tell my dh when or how much he could talk to anyone!!! he talks to his parents almost daily and for at least an hour ...so sorry you are dealing with this :hug:

all I can say is to just be there, he has to do something about it..:hug:
 
I have seen enough daughters screw over their parents to absolutely know that the above saying is SO NOT TRUE.

Again, I repeat, if your son is not seeing you, it is his issue, not his wife's. He needs to take the bull by the horns and let someone know what the score is...either Mama and tell her why he doesn't care to spend time with her or Wife and tell her that she will not dictate his relationship with his family.

I think all these parents and in-laws on here need to look inward and stop blaming everything that goes wrong on their children..........pathetic
 

I think all these parents and in-laws on here need to look inward and stop blaming everything that goes wrong on their children..........pathetic

So are you really saying that every problem with every child/parent, child-in law/in law is the fault of the parent/in law? Seriously? There cannot possibly be a person married to another person that is just hard to get along with or hateful or any of the thousand other things that can cause a problem in a relationship?

I don't quite get how you can think that.
 
Maybe the stress you saw on your son's face was because he was afraid of your reaction?

I have a cordial relationship with my ILs, but it has taken a long time to get there (HippieDaddy and I have been together 10 years). Right after we got engaged, we moved from the town where both of our parents lived to another about 3 hours south.

When we came home, we tried to spend equal time with both families, plus visiting friends. However, my family is an activity family - we get together and watch football, play cards, have a meal, etc. His family doesn't make plans, and as a result much of our visits were spent sitting on the couch watching TV while MIL was in the kitchen cooking and FIL was taking a nap. MIL had issues about the wedding (it came out later that she was jealous because she and FIL did a JOP, and she felt that if it was good enough for her, then it should have been good enough for me). She was rude about my family, said some really nasty things to me, and once demanded that DH keep a spreadsheet to prove that we didn't spend any time at their house (turns out they got more time, just less activities, if that makes sense.)

HippieDaddy was so stressed out by it, that the two of them really got into it. Even now that things are mostly settled (that was the first 4 or 5 years of our relationship), he is dishonest with her about the time we spend with my family. I don't approve of lying (more of a 'don't ask, don't tell), but it's how he chooses to deal with his parents. He has also started planning activities for their visits, so that they feel they are getting their 'money's worth," so to speak. They have since moved from my hometown, so we don't have to split visits.

Even though things have been pretty decent for the past 3 years, the initial time (4-5 years of stress, then ~3 years of recovery) has set the foundation for the relationship, things will always be a little stressful re: my ILs. We see each other about 5 or 6 times a year for a 24 hour period. I know my ILs would like more, particularly MIL, but it's an amount of time that HippieDaddy is comfortable with, and one that I can put up with. He could see them more, but chooses not to.
 
I think the point was more that your son doesn't seem to be standing up for himself if he is wanting to spend more time with you.
 
/
These threads invariably make me grateful my only child is a daughter.

I myself have had two MIL's--both of whom could be fairly disagreeable to their daughters-in-law. I just don't understand why so many wives and mothers seem to feel it's a competition. It never really bothered me to let either of my MIL's "win."

When DH's mother announced how happy she was to have all four of her sons together in one room, I didn't take that personally. As a mother, I can understand how nice it must be for her to have all her sons together with her for her birthday. Since it was the last birthday that all four could be with her before she passed away, I'm happy I didn't begrudge her that nor the photos that I took of them all for her.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that we should all have a little empathy for the other person's position. In the future, the young mother of today may have a better understanding of her MIL. It's not a competition--you both love the same man.
 
Believe me, sometimes it IS a competition... and in my case, the sole reason was because my inlaws made it so (not me).... I can state without any doubt that I went into the relationship with NO underlying thoughts or feelings of 'competition' whatsoever... Ohhh the stories I could tell about my inlaws insidious and unhealthy competitive actions. We continue to see my MIL every single week... but according to her, " I am keeping her son and grandson from her ".

I am the mother of an only son, who will soon be a teenager...
As my DH was an only (and coveted son - an only child). Which may be one reason why his parents were so overinvolved and had such incredible expectations and demands.

I can see both sides of this issue... I truly can...
I love my son beyond words... He was long awaited, longed for, the blessing of my life.
I have been completely devoted to him.
And I can say that in NO way will I feel the same way about my son (and his future wife) as my inlaws have about their son, and impose such 'expectations'... I would NEVER put that much weight on my beloved child's shoulders.

To be honest, I am afraid that the 'look' that the OP noticed on her son's face is not because a grown man needed his mommie... but, simply that weight on his shoulders of 'disappointing' her.
 
Bear in mind, this is a young girl that came into this relationship with her own set of friends (as it should be). At some point every single one of these girls have stopped having anything to do with her. Then she became close to ds's friends (many of them life long friends). She has now managed to alienate most of his friends. I have run into these people and been told "we really want to still be friends with xxxx, but we just can't be around her". I do not even ask nor do I comment.

So, let's assume that this is all true... That this girl is so spoiled, selfish, and insufferable that everyone no longer wishes to be around her and your son....

Then, that is still your son's issue... His decision... His problem...

I totally agree with the couple of other posters who have noted that your son, and your son alone, is responsible for his relationship with you as his mother.
 
Regarding the bolded bit, I think that it's important for you to remember that just because you are a MIL doesn't actually mean that she has to accept you on a 'parental basis'.

No, but she does have to respect that they are her husband's parents, and he undoubtedly loves them as much as she loves hers!

I do not understand why when some women get married they seem to think they are the only person in the marriage (or perhaps the only relevant person in the marriage). There are two people in the relationship, and they all come with family, friends, hobbies, interests, personality quirks, careers and employers that will sometimes make life difficult for the other party. It is not a competition. It's called Life and you have to deal with things reasonably and fairly.

Can I have my Nobel Prize now?
 
Probably the best advice my mom gave my about my marriage was not to tell her about the little tiffs and quarrels with DH (we are best friends and tell each other [almost] everything). She's my mom and as such would side with me, and would be likely to remember the incidents well after DH and I had patched things up. Likewise, if your DS gets frustrated with you, your DIL is the one who is going to hear it.

When DH and I got married, we spelled everything out to each other, crystal clear. I made sure he knew how close I am to my family of origin, and that I couldn't live very far away, and the importance of holidays, etc. etc. It was very much a deal breaker to me that whoever I partnered with get along well with my family, and to respect their place in my life.

DH's statement to me was, "Well, I love my parents, because they are my parents, but um . . . I'm not so sure how much I like them on a regular basis." He's also said that the only reason we live in FL is because I want to be close to my FOO. If it were up to him, we would be living in the PNW, regardless of where his family was.

I hope that's not the case with your son, OP, but if that's the message your DS has sent your DIL, maybe she's not really compelled to try any harder than she does.
 
I know that if he wants things to be differently he needs to step up and tell her; but I also know how hard a wife can make things on her husband if she doesn't get her way--and visa versa. (hey, I am not a perfect wife. I have made life hard on my dh too at times.)

I told DH that from now on when they call and say they will be coming down on such and such weekend, I will not plan anything ahead. I will just say to them to let me know when they will be at the house and that we will plan from that. I refuse to cause my child stress over coming to visit me. (this is in addition to the other things I said I will do)


I think that this is your best bet. You cannot change the life he has chosen and they need to find their own compromise. I saw that you said that she has become an issue in many of your son's friendships. I imagine he knows her faults and will have to decide how best to go on. I am Mom and know that it is very hard to stand back and watch this kind of drama but a wise woman once told me that she "would never lose a son over her DIL" and she had a DIL that was a nightmare.
 
No, but she does have to respect that they are her husband's parents, and he undoubtedly loves them as much as she loves hers!

I do not understand why when some women get married they seem to think they are the only person in the marriage (or perhaps the only relevant person in the marriage). There are two people in the relationship, and they all come with family, friends, hobbies, interests, personality quirks, careers and employers that will sometimes make life difficult for the other party. It is not a competition. It's called Life and you have to deal with things reasonably and fairly.
I think that some in-laws need to remember that they are neither of the two people in that relationship.
 
I told DH that from now on when they call and say they will be coming down on such and such weekend, I will not plan anything ahead. I will just say to them to let me know when they will be at the house and that we will plan from that. I refuse to cause my child stress over coming to visit me. (this is in addition to the other things I said I will do)

When you say "they" who do you mean, is it your DIL or your ds making the plans to come and visit? I know when dh and I travel on the weekends, I am the one to make the plans, I have to figure out where we can stay and arrange times to get together with everyone. All dh has to do is pack his clothes (which he doesn't even do :laughing:). If your DIL is the one making the arrangements its most likely going to be her family over yours, so I can see why they end up spending more time with her side. If your ds isn't the one planning these visits, maybe he should start. Do you call and invite them to visit, or do you just wait for them to call you and tell you they are coming? That could make a difference too.
 
My MIL made it easy for me AND hubby to diassociate with. She (and SIL) Simply wasn't going to tolerate my or my daughters presence in hubby's life so she set forth on trying to ruin our marrage with some illegal activities and it SOOOOOOO backfired. And the reason for this you may ask?? I talked to inlaws about moving to another state and they weren't gonna have hubby leave again!!! So to make a long story short, she is the devil in disquise and WE do our own thing now....there are times we still run into them (with the help of a BIL who likes to trick hubby) and we handle it. He was abused as a kid (more mentally) and so this makes it easier for him I think too. I wish things were different...
 
I do not understand why when some women get married they seem to think they are the only person in the marriage

Sorry, just for the record, the only persons in my 'marriage' (or any marriage, IMHO) are the two persons who married each other... my husband and myself.

Respect for parents, and parents being 'relevant' in ones marriage, are two very different things.

This is not just an indictment of inlaws... It goes both ways... There are parents/inlaws who do not respect this boundary, and there are spouses as well, who are close to their parents who do not respect this boundary. My husband was just as guilty of this as my inlaws were.

I have to give the OP Kudos here!!!!
While I think she needs to adjust her expectations, she is actually doing a good job of trying not involve herself in her son's situation with his wife! At least, she posts that she does not engage in unnecessary comments, etc... :thumbsup2
 













Receive up to $1,000 in Onboard Credit and a Gift Basket!
That’s right — when you book your Disney Cruise with Dreams Unlimited Travel, you’ll receive incredible shipboard credits to spend during your vacation!
CLICK HERE














DIS Facebook DIS youtube DIS Instagram DIS Pinterest DIS Tiktok DIS Twitter

Back
Top