MB - Problems

[disneymama73]

Why even bother having Little Ones Magic Hours if all resort guests are going to participate? Can you imagine the lines with ONLY Fantasyland open?

 

[QueenGoblin]

Why even bother having Little Ones Magic Hours if all resort guests are going to participate? Can you imagine the lines with ONLY Fantasyland open?

That's my thought too. I mean, I have a 3 year old so I am happy that WDW is trying to do some stuff that is nice for families with young kids. But this particular "perk" doesn't seem worth the knicker twisting it seems to be causing.

I am curious to see what they end up doing. My guess is there will be little to no enforcing of the 5 and under rule. But who knows?

 

[BlindTyldak]

I have a feeling this little "perk" for preschoolers will get brushed under the carpet very quickly and while it will appear on the website, the reality will become a regular EMH. There's NO way they'd be able to enforce this at all. What if they had a Grand Gathering of 50 people, one of which was 4? They're one party, and I don't see any size of the party restrictions. Not to mention the miscommunication between the parks and the phone CM's that will lead to a lot of furious people at the gate who will be let in to save an argument, prompting the people behind them to insist on being let in . . .

I used to work at a children's theme park in MA (Davis' Farmland, for anyone from back home! ) and I know from experience that any restrictions on party size, age, etc. have to be spelled out in every way, shape, and form, be completely enforcable, and so clearly posted that you can read it from Okinawa. And that will only stop about 50% of the complaints. If they really plan on making it 4 and under, they are getting off on the wrong foot in so many ways.

 

[nuttylawprofessor]

Wow, this thread could cause a brain to bleed.

I wouldn't have guessed that this topic could become the next "refillable mug affair" or "pool-hopgate."

 

[ls1222]

Honestly, I just posted this thread hoping someone was better informed than me (I really didn't know that CM's could be misinformed). I certainly am not looking to trample any 5 year old but frankly, my 7 year old still love Dumbo, Peter, Pooh and all of Fantasyland. I had planned on Wed and Fri way before MB was ever announced (I was a little upset that it was not announced sooner) and my ressies are in place. Could we still go at 9:00 am sure but I am one to get to the park before opening so I would rather tour another park then. I called dining today to try to redo my plans but could not get most of my switches for the ressies. I guess I will just show up at 8:00 am on next Wed and hope that noone wants to fight about ages of children.

 

[Robo]

(I really didn't know that CM's could be misinformed).

 

[cleo]

Most CM's are wonderful about giving correct info, but there are many who are just woefully, painfully misinformed. Lots of info on discussion forums is terrific, but for every few post that are right on the money you'll find one that's only partly correct or just plain way off base. The hard part is telling which is which and who is right!

CM's definitely make mistakes. Sometimes several of them will make the same mistake. If something doesn't sound right there is a good chance it isn't. Just because they say it (or even just because WE say it!) doesn't mean it's correct. Frustrating, isn't it?

 

[Windy City Heather]

I told all my friends with young kids about the MB program because a lot of people think their kids are "too young" for Disney. I think this is a great opportunity for Disney to make believers out of people who think 3 & 4 yr olds are "too young to remember." (Those people should just meet my nieces and have them describe everything they know about Disney! LOL)

My just turned 4 year old knows more about Disney than most adults. She tells her friends who are going what to do and see.

 

[PA Princess]

I hope many who attend these little one mornings return back and report on how things worked out..restrictions? info at check in? how craowded? etc. We have a trip planned for September. Our original plans called for a visit to MK on a Friday, so we thought it would be great to attend this special EMH. We do have a 1 1/2 year old (in addition to a 6, 10, and 11), so technically we do qualify..if there is a qualification

However, if Fantasyland is jammed full, I would rather skip this event and simply show up closer to 9 prepared to tour other lands as they open (we would do Fantasyland at opening another day without the Little Ones EMH). So for those traveling in the next week or two...please come back and report - thank you!

 

[Jobie]

I totally agree.

I can't believe this thread has gone from one person having a CM state ages 5 and under TO people now stating specific rules for who will be let in with the child TO people now claiming this is a rule/policy we have to follow.....and all in 3 pages It's like watching the telephone game in action

I wasn't trying to say what rules were in exisitance or not, I was just trying to show why the CM's were saying that. I highly doubt they would turn away any family or group that had some kids with them.

 

[RedsoxMickey]

Should I conclude that my DD(7) will not be let in to the new character breakfast at MGM or into the Mickey Magic Show?
No
So why would I think she would not be welcome to Fantasy Land at 8am

If you need to have a 5 yr old in your party I would think Disney would be clear about that.
I will not be upset if they are clear about it BUT I will be if they are not clear about it.
We all spend a lot of time planning out our trip days to make the most of world and currently we have an early morning planned for Sunday the 20th.
It would be nice to have a clear answer now.

 

[Jobie]

Read the whole page and nowhere in there did I see it state that children over 5 are excluded from anything. That page also lists "philharmagic, turtle talk, crystal palace, etc" all attractions recommended for preschoolers, not excluding anyone who isn't a preschooler from enjoying it also.

I mever mentioned anything about the 5 year thing. I was just saying that the event was designed with pre-schoolers in mind.

 

[lovetoscrap]

It would seem that the idea is that this will mostly only appeal to those with young children. To say this will turn into just a regular EMH morning is not correct--only Fantasyland will be open.

On a regular EMH morning there are 2 crowds there-- the one straining to get to Tomorrowland for SM and Buzz, and the stroller brigade at the Dumbo Drop by the castle! Having done both of these, I can say that the 2 crowds were very distinct. Those that would come to MK for Tomorrowland are not going to bother to arrive early that day for Fantasyland--they will be at whatever other park has EMH and lining up for the Eticket rides there. They have no interest in running over preschoolers to get to ride Cinderella's Carrousel first!

Since there has been no announcement that there would be an age limit I just can't imagine one would suddenly appear when you get there. I feel pretty sure the Dumbo or Die crowd will be made up of all different ages, but mostly those with youngish children, and maybe some older, adult only groups. Most of the "mid range" families will just not be interested enough.

I may decide to go with my 6 and 10 yr old. We love the Fantasyland attractions. I really can't imagine they will prevent us from entering.

Remember Walt's dream? A place where the entire family can have fun TOGETHER--they are not going to say that you can't bring in your older kids, or part of your party.

Besides, when it all comes down to it, Disney CM's don't like confrontation and a scene. They want and are told to make every guest happy. Unless it is a safety issue, they are not going to prevent a child (or adult) from entering the "Happiest Place on Earth"

I can't wait to hear reports back, but I just can't believe they would even make a rule like this, especially since it can't really be enforced.

 

[arielsleepingbeauty]

This is so silly. How can it say that it is for preschoolers and mean that it is for children under 5? My daughter just turned 5 and isn't even in Kindergarten yet, she is in preschool. Would we not be let in? Would i need to bring her report card to prove it? That's just ridiculous. They are not going to turn people away.

 

[bettybeth]

Wow, this thread could cause a brain to bleed.

I wouldn't have guessed that this topic could become the next "refillable mug affair" or "pool-hopgate."

My thoughts exactly. I've read this whole thread with my jaws hanging open. How could the Disney police have a problem with this? Those who have made ADR's or scheduled your day around MB - don't change them. This is just a marketing tool. The fact that Fantasyland is the only land open will deter the teenage crowd and those that enjoy FL should be free to enjoy!

 

[BroadwayGirl]

Why even bother having Little Ones Magic Hours if all resort guests are going to participate? Can you imagine the lines with ONLY Fantasyland open?

Because NOT all resort guests are going to participate. With only Fantasyland open during the Little Ones EMH, I would imagine that most WDW guests traveling without younger children will be attending regular EMH at other parks or avoiding the EMH altogether. The Little Ones EMH for the Magical Beginnings are ADDITIONAL EMH that are geared toward families traveling with preschoolers. The "traditional" EMH schedule will still be in place, these are just extra bonus EMH.

People here tend to get very worked up over little things like this. They forget that this is a brand new offering and even though Disney has tried to cover everything, sometimes they just can't anticipate all the scenarios that might occur. The Little Ones EMH advertising is aimed toward families with preschoolers and Disney is expecting that this demographic will form the majority of the participants for this event. There is NOTHING that indicates any resort guests will be excluded, however, it is not anticipated that many familes traveling without small children will want to use the Little Ones EMH. I honestly don't think that Disney ever imagined that guests would even entertain the idea that families traveling without preschoolers would believe that they couldn't attend the Little Ones EMH. They just assumed that most of them wouldn't want to do so.

 

[Cool-Beans]

I can't see them denying older children entrance.

Some people, like me, take more than one kid. So, if you have a 4 year old and a 7yo, the older kid has to stay in the room? And then you have to leave the park to retrieve them? No way.

 

[Cookie Princess]

I sent an e-mail to WDW yesterday to get this clarified...no response to date. Depending on the answer, I may need to make some itinerary and ADR adjustments and we leave this week...YIKES!

 

[disneymama73]

Because NOT all resort guests are going to participate. With only Fantasyland open during the Little Ones EMH, I would imagine that most WDW guests traveling without younger children will be attending regular EMH at other parks or avoiding the EMH altogether. The Little Ones EMH for the Magical Beginnings are ADDITIONAL EMH that are geared toward families traveling with preschoolers. The "traditional" EMH schedule will still be in place, these are just extra bonus EMH.

People here tend to get very worked up over little things like this. They forget that this is a brand new offering and even though Disney has tried to cover everything, sometimes they just can't anticipate all the scenarios that might occur. The Little Ones EMH advertising is aimed toward families with preschoolers and Disney is expecting that this demographic will form the majority of the participants for this event. There is NOTHING that indicates any resort guests will be excluded, however, it is not anticipated that many familes traveling without small children will want to use the Little Ones EMH. I honestly don't think that Disney ever imagined that guests would even entertain the idea that families traveling without preschoolers would believe that they couldn't attend the Little Ones EMH. They just assumed that most of them wouldn't want to do so.

I agree with you. I assumed they wouldn't want to either.

ETA: Love your sig!

 

[disneymama73]

I can't see them denying older children entrance.

Some people, like me, take more than one kid. So, if you have a 4 year old and a 7yo, the older kid has to stay in the room? And then you have to leave the park to retrieve them? No way.

I don't think they would do that, either. That would be crazy.