May 10, 2008 Ship of Thieves! Stealing the Magic..AGAIN!!! Panama Canal FL to CA!!! Part 4

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Wonderful pics!! Wouldn't that be a kick to have that turtle in your back yard?

Sounds like you guys had a fun trip!!



You know I would LOVE that turtle in my yard, but for the price, I would much rather do another cruise.:love: :woohoo: :love:

Thanks, we did have a fun trip, just a little get away to recharge and it worked!:thumbsup2 :goodvibes :thumbsup2
 
Great pics Deb. Thanks for sharing. It sound like you had a wonderful and relaxing time.:thumbsup2

p.s. Love the turtle too.
 
I heard that all the Disney characters are going to be dressed up in star wars costumes for the next few weekends at DLR. Does anyone know if this is true?

I'm sure you have talked about this at some point in your 1000+ pages but does anyone know anything about any of the ports we are going to? I know they haven't posted anything about excursions yet but I have been trying to do some research on the ports. I mean I have been reading about some of the other cruises and it seems like there are somethings you can explore on your own.
 

To ease my boredom here at work today, my thoughts have turned to our countdown and I just realized we'll soon be able to say, "less than a year until the cruise"! :woohoo: I got so used to saying, "over a year from now".
 
To ease my boredom here at work today, my thoughts have turned to our countdown and I just realized we'll soon be able to say, "less than a year until the cruise"! :woohoo: I got so used to saying, "over a year from now".



A year and a half has turned into a year! In six or seven months we'll be wondering where the year went. Now I need to start working on the diet! :cool1:
 
A year and a half has turned into a year! In six or seven months we'll be wondering where the year went. Now I need to start working on the diet! :cool1:
:scared1: Shhh................That dreaded "d" word is a 4-letter word in my book! :rotfl:
 
I heard that all the Disney characters are going to be dressed up in star wars costumes for the next few weekends at DLR. Does anyone know if this is true?

I'm sure you have talked about this at some point in your 1000+ pages but does anyone know anything about any of the ports we are going to? I know they haven't posted anything about excursions yet but I have been trying to do some research on the ports. I mean I have been reading about some of the other cruises and it seems like there are somethings you can explore on your own.


Noel already did this for us, check page 994 and you will find links to all the ports on our cruise.

pirate: :cool2: pirate:
 
A year and a half has turned into a year! In six or seven months we'll be wondering where the year went. Now I need to start working on the diet! :cool1:


For me, it's five months till our cruise in October then when we get home from that in November, it'll be six months till this cruise....so it doesn't feel like a whole year. Way better!
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1 Year from today and most of us will either have set off on our trip or be setting off!!!!!:banana: :banana: :banana:
I can't believe it....although it really is still a long way away!


A year and a half has turned into a year! In six or seven months we'll be wondering where the year went. Now I need to start working on the diet! :cool1:
DIET-did ya have to bring up that reminder?! Well, I guess now is the best time to start, gives me time to get going!
 
DOH! There's that 4-letter word again! :scared1: :ssst:



Well I have a lot of weight to lose so I keep thinking I can lose 1 pound a week and lose 52 pounds. I already lost 12 so I guess I have been on track since we booked.
 
I heard that all the Disney characters are going to be dressed up in star wars costumes for the next few weekends at DLR. Does anyone know if this is true?

I'm sure you have talked about this at some point in your 1000+ pages but does anyone know anything about any of the ports we are going to? I know they haven't posted anything about excursions yet but I have been trying to do some research on the ports. I mean I have been reading about some of the other cruises and it seems like there are somethings you can explore on your own.

Is this what you mean?

Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays from June 1-June 24 at Disney-MGM Studios.

Choose your destiny and journey to a "galaxy far, far away." Come face to face with your favorite Star Wars heroes and villains, test your knowledge of trivia, or take flight in Star Tours — the ultimate Star Wars adventure during Star Wars Weekends at the Disney-MGM Studios.

Star Wars Celebrities



Celebrities scheduled to appear this year include:

Host (all four weekends): Jay Laga'aia ("Captain Typho")

Weekend 1 (June 1, 2, 3)
- Warwick Davis ("Wicket the Ewok")
- Kenny Baker ("R2-D2")

Weekend 2 (June 8, 9, 10)
- Ray Park ("Darth Maul")
- Daniel Logan ("Boba Fett" - Episode II)

Weekend 3 (June 15, 16, 17)
- Jeremy Bulloch ("Boba Fett")
- Peter Mayhew ("Chewbacca")

Weekend 4 (June 22, 23, 24)
- Anthony Daniels ("C-3PO")
- Bonnie Piesse ("Beru Lars")

Note: Celebrity appearances subject to change without notice.


Star Wars celebrities will be participating in daily autograph sessions, Legends of the Force Celebrity Motorcade and Stars of the Saga Talk Show.

Exciting Star Wars Weekends Events


Jedi Training Academy – Selected audience members can train with a Jedi Master, and test their skills against Darth Vader and Darth Maul.
Star Tours Attraction – Blast your speedster through the ultimate Star Wars adventure.
Behind the Force – Get a behind-the-scenes look at the making of the films.
Padawan Mind Challenge – Compete in a kid trivia contest complete with Star Wars prizes.
Hyperspace Hoopla – Join together with Star Wars characters and Guests for an entertaining conclusion to each day's events.

Star Wars characters

More than 40 Star Wars characters will be attending including Anakin Skywalker, Captain Typho, Darth Maul, Darth Sidious, Darth Vader, Ewoks, Jedi Mickey, Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia, Queen Amidala, R2-D2, and stormtroopers!

© 2007 Lucasfilm Ltd. & TM.
 
Well I have a lot of weight to lose so I keep thinking I can lose 1 pound a week and lose 52 pounds. I already lost 12 so I guess I have been on track since we booked.
Great start! Keep up the good work! I'm only teasing because I know I have to lose lots too. I'm trying to lose 70 pounds to get to my pre-pregnancy weight. I gained 30 during pregnancy, but I'm not blaming that because I lost all my weight a month after I had Tyler (almost 5 years ago), but I shot back up PLUS another 30 pounds a couple months later. Yup, pregnancy definitely changed my metabolism in a major way. So I've spent the last 5 years working on it. Pretty hard to change 36 years of eating habits. I had super high metabolism my whole life and did not worry about eating right. My family used to tell me I was eating enough for 3 adult men! That's literally about how much I'd eat every meal, but was always thin. Loved it, but now I'm paying for it. :sad2:
 
Well I have a lot of weight to lose so I keep thinking I can lose 1 pound a week and lose 52 pounds. I already lost 12 so I guess I have been on track since we booked.

Well done. You must be noticing the difference already. I think I have about 28 lbs to lose, but a little more would help with the problem of eating on the cruise!!:)

Great start! Keep up the good work! I'm only teasing because I know I have to lose lots too. I'm trying to lose 70 pounds to get to my pre-pregnancy weight. I gained 30 during pregnancy, but I'm not blaming that because I lost all my weight a month after I had Tyler (almost 5 years ago), but I shot back up PLUS another 30 pounds a couple months later. Yup, pregnancy definitely changed my metabolism in a major way. So I've spent the last 5 years working on it. Pretty hard to change 36 years of eating habits. I had super high metabolism my whole life and did not worry about eating right. My family used to tell me I was eating enough for 3 adult men! That's literally about how much I'd eat every meal, but was always thin. Loved it, but now I'm paying for it. :sad2:

Pregnancy certainly can alter our metabolism though some ladies seem to be able to miss that negative and stay slim. Not me, I have yo yo'd all the time and now I am much older it is even harder to lose.

We have the best incentive though don't we?
 
Genes Take Charge, and Diets Fall by the Wayside

By GINA KOLATA
Published: May 8, 2007

(This is an excerpt from Gina Kolata’s new book, “Rethinking Thin: The New Science of Weight Loss — and the Myths and Realities of Dieting” (Farrar, Straus & Giroux)

It was 1959. Jules Hirsch, a research physician at Rockefeller University, had gotten curious about weight loss in the obese. He was about to start a simple experiment that would change forever the way scientists think about fat.

Obese people, he knew, had huge fat cells, stuffed with glistening yellow fat. What happened to those cells when people lost weight, he wondered. Did they shrink or did they go away? He decided to find out.

It seemed straightforward. Dr. Hirsch found eight people who had been fat since childhood or adolescence and who agreed to live at the Rockefeller University Hospital for eight months while scientists would control their diets, make them lose weight and then examine their fat cells.

The study was rigorous and demanding. It began with an agonizing four weeks of a maintenance diet that assessed the subjects’ metabolism and caloric needs. Then the diet began. The only food permitted was a liquid formula providing 600 calories a day, a regimen that guaranteed they would lose weight. Finally, the subjects spent another four weeks on a diet that maintained them at their new weights, 100 pounds lower than their initial weights, on average.

Dr. Hirsch answered his original question — the subjects’ fat cells had shrunk and were now normal in size. And everyone, including Dr. Hirsch, assumed that the subjects would leave the hospital permanently thinner.

That did not happen. Instead, Dr. Hirsch says, “they all regained.” He was horrified. The study subjects certainly wanted to be thin, so what went wrong? Maybe, he thought, they had some deep-seated psychological need to be fat.

So Dr. Hirsch and his colleagues, including Dr. Rudolph L. Leibel, who is now at Columbia University, repeated the experiment and repeated it again. Every time the result was the same. The weight, so painstakingly lost, came right back. But since this was a research study, the investigators were also measuring metabolic changes, psychiatric conditions, body temperature and pulse. And that led them to a surprising conclusion: fat people who lost large amounts of weight might look like someone who was never fat, but they were very different. In fact, by every metabolic measurement, they seemed like people who were starving.

Before the diet began, the fat subjects’ metabolism was normal — the number of calories burned per square meter of body surface was no different from that of people who had never been fat. But when they lost weight, they were burning as much as 24 percent fewer calories per square meter of their surface area than the calories consumed by those who were naturally thin.

The Rockefeller subjects also had a psychiatric syndrome, called semi-starvation neurosis, which had been noticed before in people of normal weight who had been starved. They dreamed of food, they fantasized about food or about breaking their diet. They were anxious and depressed; some had thoughts of suicide. They secreted food in their rooms. And they binged.

The Rockefeller researchers explained their observations in one of their papers: “It is entirely possible that weight reduction, instead of resulting in a normal state for obese patients, results in an abnormal state resembling that of starved nonobese individuals.”

Eventually, more than 50 people lived at the hospital and lost weight, and every one had physical and psychological signs of starvation. There were a very few who did not get fat again, but they made staying thin their life’s work, becoming Weight Watchers lecturers, for example, and, always, counting calories and maintaining themselves in a permanent state of starvation.

“Did those who stayed thin simply have more willpower?” Dr. Hirsch asked. “In a funny way, they did.”

One way to interpret Dr. Hirsch and Dr. Leibel’s studies would be to propose that once a person got fat, the body would adjust, making it hopeless to lose weight and keep it off. The issue was important, because if getting fat was the problem, there might be a solution to the obesity epidemic: convince people that any weight gain was a step toward an irreversible condition that they most definitely did not want to have.

But another group of studies showed that that hypothesis, too, was wrong.

It began with studies that were the inspiration of Dr. Ethan Sims at the University of Vermont, who asked what would happen if thin people who had never had a weight problem deliberately got fat.

His subjects were prisoners at a nearby state prison who volunteered to gain weight. With great difficulty, they succeeded, increasing their weight by 20 percent to 25 percent. But it took them four to six months, eating as much as they could every day. Some consumed 10,000 calories a day, an amount so incredible that it would be hard to believe, were it not for the fact that there were attendants present at each meal who dutifully recorded everything the men ate.

Once the men were fat, their metabolisms increased by 50 percent. They needed more than 2,700 calories per square meter of their body surface to stay fat but needed just 1,800 calories per square meter to maintain their normal weight.

When the study ended, the prisoners had no trouble losing weight. Within months, they were back to normal and effortlessly stayed there.

The implications were clear. There is a reason that fat people cannot stay thin after they diet and that thin people cannot stay fat when they force themselves to gain weight. The body’s metabolism speeds up or slows down to keep weight within a narrow range. Gain weight and the metabolism can as much as double; lose weight and it can slow to half its original speed.

That, of course, was contrary to what every scientist had thought, and Dr. Sims knew it, as did Dr. Hirsch.

The message never really got out to the nation’s dieters, but a few research scientists were intrigued and asked the next question about body weight: Is body weight inherited, or is obesity more of an inadvertent, almost unconscious response to a society where food is cheap, abundant and tempting? An extra 100 calories a day will pile on 10 pounds in a year, public health messages often say. In five years, that is 50 pounds.

The assumption was that environment determined weight, but Dr. Albert Stunkard of the University of Pennsylvania wondered if that was true and, if so, to what extent. It was the early 1980s, long before obesity became what one social scientist called a moral panic, but a time when those questions of nature versus nurture were very much on Dr. Stunkard’s mind.

He found the perfect tool for investigating the nature-nurture question — a Danish registry of adoptees developed to understand whether schizophrenia was inherited. It included meticulous medical records of every Danish adoption between 1927 and 1947, including the names of the adoptees’ biological parents, and the heights and weights of the adoptees, their biological parents and their adoptive parents.

Dr. Stunkard ended up with 540 adults whose average age was 40. They had been adopted when they were very young — 55 percent had been adopted in the first month of life and 90 percent were adopted in the first year of life. His conclusions, published in The New England Journal of Medicine in 1986, were unequivocal. The adoptees were as fat as their biological parents, and how fat they were had no relation to how fat their adoptive parents were.

The scientists summarized it in their paper: “The two major findings of this study were that there was a clear relation between the body-mass index of biologic parents and the weight class of adoptees, suggesting that genetic influences are important determinants of body fatness; and that there was no relation between the body-mass index of adoptive parents and the weight class of adoptees, suggesting that childhood family environment alone has little or no effect.”

In other words, being fat was an inherited condition.

Dr. Stunkard also pointed out the implications: “Current efforts to prevent obesity are directed toward all children (and their parents) almost indiscriminately. Yet if family environment alone has no role in obesity, efforts now directed toward persons with little genetic risk of the disorder could be refocused on the smaller number who are more vulnerable. Such persons can already be identified with some assurance: 80 percent of the offspring of two obese parents become obese, as compared with no more than 14 percent of the offspring of two parents of normal weight.”

A few years later, in 1990, Dr. Stunkard published another study in The New England Journal of Medicine, using another classic method of geneticists: investigating twins. This time, he used the Swedish Twin Registry, studying its 93 pairs of identical twins who were reared apart, 154 pairs of identical twins who were reared together, 218 pairs of fraternal twins who were reared apart, and 208 pairs of fraternal twins who were reared together.

The identical twins had nearly identical body mass indexes, whether they had been reared apart or together. There was more variation in the body mass indexes of the fraternal twins, who, like any siblings, share some, but not all, genes.

The researchers concluded that 70 percent of the variation in peoples’ weights may be accounted for by inheritance, a figure that means that weight is more strongly inherited than nearly any other condition, including mental illness, breast cancer or heart disease.

The results did not mean that people are completely helpless to control their weight, Dr. Stunkard said. But, he said, it did mean that those who tend to be fat will have to constantly battle their genetic inheritance if they want to reach and maintain a significantly lower weight.

The findings also provided evidence for a phenomenon that scientists like Dr. Hirsch and Dr. Leibel were certain was true — each person has a comfortable weight range to which the body gravitates. The range might span 10 or 20 pounds: someone might be able to weigh 120 to 140 pounds without too much effort. Going much above or much below the natural weight range is difficult, however; the body resists by increasing or decreasing the appetite and changing the metabolism to push the weight back to the range it seeks.

The message is so at odds with the popular conception of weight loss — the mantra that all a person has to do is eat less and exercise more — that Dr. Jeffrey Friedman, an obesity researcher at the Rockefeller University, tried to come up with an analogy that would convey what science has found about the powerful biological controls over body weight.

He published it in the journal Science in 2000 and still cites it:

“Those who doubt the power of basic drives, however, might note that although one can hold one’s breath, this conscious act is soon overcome by the compulsion to breathe,” Dr. Friedman wrote. “The feeling of hunger is intense and, if not as potent as the drive to breathe, is probably no less powerful than the drive to drink when one is thirsty. This is the feeling the obese must resist after they have lost a significant amount of weight.”
 
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Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays from June 1-June 24 at Disney-MGM Studios.

Choose your destiny and journey to a "galaxy far, far away." Come face to face with your favorite Star Wars heroes and villains, test your knowledge of trivia, or take flight in Star Tours — the ultimate Star Wars adventure during Star Wars Weekends at the Disney-MGM Studios.

Star Wars Celebrities



Celebrities scheduled to appear this year include:

Host (all four weekends): Jay Laga'aia ("Captain Typho")

Weekend 1 (June 1, 2, 3)
- Warwick Davis ("Wicket the Ewok")
- Kenny Baker ("R2-D2")

Weekend 2 (June 8, 9, 10)
- Ray Park ("Darth Maul")
- Daniel Logan ("Boba Fett" - Episode II)

Weekend 3 (June 15, 16, 17)
- Jeremy Bulloch ("Boba Fett")
- Peter Mayhew ("Chewbacca")

Weekend 4 (June 22, 23, 24)
- Anthony Daniels ("C-3PO")
- Bonnie Piesse ("Beru Lars")

Note: Celebrity appearances subject to change without notice.


Star Wars celebrities will be participating in daily autograph sessions, Legends of the Force Celebrity Motorcade and Stars of the Saga Talk Show.

Exciting Star Wars Weekends Events


Jedi Training Academy – Selected audience members can train with a Jedi Master, and test their skills against Darth Vader and Darth Maul.
Star Tours Attraction – Blast your speedster through the ultimate Star Wars adventure.
Behind the Force – Get a behind-the-scenes look at the making of the films.
Padawan Mind Challenge – Compete in a kid trivia contest complete with Star Wars prizes.
Hyperspace Hoopla – Join together with Star Wars characters and Guests for an entertaining conclusion to each day's events.

Star Wars characters

More than 40 Star Wars characters will be attending including Anakin Skywalker, Captain Typho, Darth Maul, Darth Sidious, Darth Vader, Ewoks, Jedi Mickey, Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia, Queen Amidala, R2-D2, and stormtroopers!

© 2007 Lucasfilm Ltd. & TM.


WOW this sounds like a lot of fun....too bad I won't be there in June.
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Great start! Keep up the good work! I'm only teasing because I know I have to lose lots too. I'm trying to lose 70 pounds to get to my pre-pregnancy weight. I gained 30 during pregnancy, but I'm not blaming that because I lost all my weight a month after I had Tyler (almost 5 years ago), but I shot back up PLUS another 30 pounds a couple months later. Yup, pregnancy definitely changed my metabolism in a major way. So I've spent the last 5 years working on it. Pretty hard to change 36 years of eating habits. I had super high metabolism my whole life and did not worry about eating right. My family used to tell me I was eating enough for 3 adult men! That's literally about how much I'd eat every meal, but was always thin. Loved it, but now I'm paying for it. :sad2:

I'm the same way. After I stopped nursing both of my kids, I weighed less than I did before a got pregnant. I still ate like I was nursing and gained a lot of weight. I don't even know how much I need to lose because I was like 100 in highschool. Which I'm assuming is not ever going to happen again. I just picked one pound a week so I felt like I could make it!
 
Pregnancy certainly can alter our metabolism though some ladies seem to be able to miss that negative and stay slim. Not me, I have yo yo'd all the time and now I am much older it is even harder to lose.

We have the best incentive though don't we?
Great incentive indeed! :thumbsup2 I haven't yo yo'd, just been stuck. Even when I was working out 4 days a week for months, my size stayed the same. Crazy. My doc at the time recommended I work out 6 days a week. He told me some people just have to work harder at it than others. Uggghhh.....Sure doc....are you going to babysit while I do that? :rotfl2: At the time, Tyler wasn't in daycare....but now I can easily go work out before picking him up. :goodvibes
 
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