MaxPass / Digital Fastpass - Discussion Thread

Can I ask where this comes from? I've seen it mentioned a couple of times but I haven't found anything in the wording that points to that. I guess the true test will be someone willing to pony up $10 and give it a try.
My guess is that this won't be the case.

It seems like you would be able to use your ticket OR the App. Once you sync your ticket to the App, they would be interchangeable.

What if you lose your phone? No more fastpasses for you? I guess that would be the same as losing your ticket in the old days...
 
Sorry if this has been answered but if I have the Disneyland app on my phone can I link my ticket and the tickets for my wife and two kids?

MaxPass is $10 per ticket correct?
 
My guess is that this won't be the case.

It seems like you would be able to use your ticket OR the App. Once you sync your ticket to the App, they would be interchangeable.

What if you lose your phone? No more fastpasses for you? I guess that would be the same as losing your ticket in the old days...
That's what I'm thinking too. FPs are connected to your AP/Ticket and MaxPass is connected to them so if you use one, you can't use the other for the FP time frame.
 

That's what I'm thinking too. FPs are connected to your AP/Ticket and MaxPass is connected to them so if you use one, you can't use the other for the FP time frame.
Right. I don't think you could use both to get 2 fastpasses, but I also don't think activating Maxpass will disable your other ticket.

It seems that way to me, but I'm been surprised by Disney before.
 
Right. I don't think you could use both to get 2 fastpasses, but I also don't think activating Maxpass will disable your other ticket.

It seems that way to me, but I'm been surprised by Disney before.
Disabling it would make it more difficult for people to ride together in a lot of cases. We meet friends in DL quite frequently and lots of families meet up a few days into a trip etc. Locking it to just the Max Pass would create a bunch of hassle for people. I can't see a friend who is just meeting me for an afternoon springing for Max Pass AND linking their ticket to mine just so we can ride Splash together at the same time.
 
LA Times article about Disneyland lines.

The online version posted online yesterday is titled: Disneyland raised prices to shorten waits. Here are the results
The print version on the front page today has the headline: Disneyland can't work its magic on wait times, It tries to ease crowding but lines keep growing

Some interesting data on wait times, mined from Touring Plans.

Is there a way to find out what historical AP block-out dates are? I found a website that had 2016 block-out dates, but I can't find January of this year.

I read the article and it said "Disneyland reached full capacity and had to close its gates twice this year, on Jan. 4 and again on May 20, both days representing either the end or the beginning of the blackout period for annual pass holders." When the parks reached capacity on January 4th, were ALL AP's active, or was it just Deluxe and up?

We just bought Deluxe AP's this week and want to go January 3-6. Deluxe can return to the parks on January 3rd, while SoCal has to wait until January 7th and SoCal Select has to wait until January 8th. I'm wondering if January 3-6 has a chance of reaching capacity.

A related question: In general, which group has the biggest impact on crowds?
 
Is there a way to find out what historical AP block-out dates are? I found a website that had 2016 block-out dates, but I can't find January of this year.

I read the article and it said "Disneyland reached full capacity and had to close its gates twice this year, on Jan. 4 and again on May 20, both days representing either the end or the beginning of the blackout period for annual pass holders." When the parks reached capacity on January 4th, were ALL AP's active, or was it just Deluxe and up?

We just bought Deluxe AP's this week and want to go January 3-6. Deluxe can return to the parks on January 3rd, while SoCal has to wait until January 7th and SoCal Select has to wait until January 8th. I'm wondering if January 3-6 has a chance of reaching capacity.

A related question: In general, which group has the biggest impact on crowds?
I think both SoCals have a big impact.

I am not aware of anywhere on DIS that keeps track of historical blockouts. I would look at MousePlanet's updates https://www.mouseplanet.com/tag/2/Disneyland_Resort_Update/

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I think both SoCals have a big impact.

I am not aware of anywhere on DIS that keeps track of historical blockouts. I would look at MousePlanet's updates https://www.mouseplanet.com/tag/2/Disneyland_Resort_Update/

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Thanks! Mouseplanet is where I found the calendar for 2016. I still can't find the calendar for 2017 but the link you gave me answered my question. The update for January 2-8, 2017 says, "The holiday blackouts are lifted for all passholders as of Wednesday, January 4." I can see why January 4th reached max capacity. I'm hoping January 3-6 won't be as bad in 2018 because Socal and Socal Select will still be blocked.
 
Can I ask where this comes from? I've seen it mentioned a couple of times but I haven't found anything in the wording that points to that. I guess the true test will be someone willing to pony up $10 and give it a try.
If I remember correctly, when MaxPass was first announced someone asked in the blog comments if they would be able to switch to paper FP later in the day if their phone died, and the official response was that you would be locked into one system or another - no switching to paper FP after using digital earlier in the day.

However, I would take that with a grain of salt because 1) I might be remembering wrong and I don't have time to go look it up, 2) that blog announcement was quite a while ago and they might have made changes since then, and 3) even if it is true that you can't switch between digital and paper, that doesn't quite answer the question of if someone can purchase MP for the photos and not use it for digital FP at all, and use paper FP for the whole day instead (i.e., never activate digital FP in the first place). Like you said, we can't really be sure until someone makes an attempt and reports back.
 
I am really curious who the target demographics are for Maxpass. I just don't see it appealing to the average guest but I could be wrong. I think the average guest can't even figure out the current FP system! I can see it appealing to elite quests (those who don't have any budget constraints), or those in small groups going for short visits (5 days or less). I feel like I understand the current FP system very well and use it as much as possible, but I'm not sure the cost of MP is worth it, even at the AP rate. If I were going for just a few days with just DH, I would totally do it though. For a family of 6 it doesn't make much sense.
 
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Is there a way to find out what historical AP block-out dates are? I found a website that had 2016 block-out dates, but I can't find January of this year.

I read the article and it said "Disneyland reached full capacity and had to close its gates twice this year, on Jan. 4 and again on May 20, both days representing either the end or the beginning of the blackout period for annual pass holders." When the parks reached capacity on January 4th, were ALL AP's active, or was it just Deluxe and up?

We just bought Deluxe AP's this week and want to go January 3-6. Deluxe can return to the parks on January 3rd, while SoCal has to wait until January 7th and SoCal Select has to wait until January 8th. I'm wondering if January 3-6 has a chance of reaching capacity.

A related question: In general, which group has the biggest impact on crowds?

Here's a screen shot of Jan crowds on touring plans and it shows block out dates. The 4th was the first day all passes were welcomed back!
 
If I remember correctly, when MaxPass was first announced someone asked in the blog comments if they would be able to switch to paper FP later in the day if their phone died, and the official response was that you would be locked into one system or another - no switching to paper FP after using digital earlier in the day.

However, I would take that with a grain of salt because 1) I might be remembering wrong and I don't have time to go look it up, 2) that blog announcement was quite a while ago and they might have made changes since then, and 3) even if it is true that you can't switch between digital and paper, that doesn't quite answer the question of if someone can purchase MP for the photos and not use it for digital FP at all, and use paper FP for the whole day instead (i.e., never activate digital FP in the first place). Like you said, we can't really be sure until someone makes an attempt and reports back.
Well, there's no longer paper FP, it's all digital now. I don't think even they were quite sure how exactly it would be implemented at the time. I'm just trying to figure how it would work. Presumably the barcode on your ticket is what identifies you to the FP machine and would be what would identify you as someone using Max Pass. It seems if you use one it would stop the other from being used in the same time frame so you couldn't double up. I'm thinking that might be what they meant.
 
Well, there's no longer paper FP, it's all digital now. I don't think even they were quite sure how exactly it would be implemented at the time. I'm just trying to figure how it would work. Presumably the barcode on your ticket is what identifies you to the FP machine and would be what would identify you as someone using Max Pass. It seems if you use one it would stop the other from being used in the same time frame so you couldn't double up. I'm thinking that might be what they meant.
Ok yeah, I see what you mean. When I referred to digital vs paper FP I was talking about how you pull the FP (through the app vs using a kiosk), but I should have used different terminology since it's all somewhat "digital" now. And I agree that back when they made that statement they might not have had all the details figured out so it might not hold up now. But when they said you can't switch between the systems, I didn't get the impression that they were talking about scenarios of doubling up and getting 2 FP in the same eligibility window. I believe the context of the question was if someone's phone died halfway through the day could they switch to regular FP for the rest of the day, and the answer was no. I might just try to find that statement so I can quote it more specifically and see if I'm remembering it wrong, but I'm not sure it's worth it since for all we know the plan has changed since then. I will be eagerly awaiting reports from the first MP users about whether it's possible to use FP kiosks instead of the app, and also whether the return times for the kiosks and the app are synced up, because those details will make a big difference for anyone considering purchasing MP for only part of their group.

On another note, I have to agree with the others who have said it's disappointing that Signature AP's are being charged the same amount for the add on as lower passes. We have some signature AP's that are not yet activated, and I was planning to give MaxPass a go under the assumption that it would either be included for free or at a decently reduced rate for Signature passes since we're already paying for photopass through the AP. With this price structure, I'm probably not going to do it, and of course that's my own choice since it's an optional add-on, but I'm still disappointed because I was really looking forward to being able to use FP without having to criss-cross all over the parks all day.
 
Here is the original announcement. I read through all the comments and I saw the question asked a couple of times about whether you'd be able to still use "paper" FP when you have Max Pass but there are no responses to that specific question. Questions about if you can hold a Max Pass and regular FP at the same time were answered with no, but I'm not seeing anything that says you'd be locked into Max Pass once you buy it. It's possible they could have removed the responses though.
https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...-disneyland-resort/?comment_sort=asc#comments
 
Disabling it would make it more difficult for people to ride together in a lot of cases. We meet friends in DL quite frequently and lots of families meet up a few days into a trip etc. Locking it to just the Max Pass would create a bunch of hassle for people. I can't see a friend who is just meeting me for an afternoon springing for Max Pass AND linking their ticket to mine just so we can ride Splash together at the same time.
Your tickets don't have to be linked, you'd just have to get on and pull your FPs at the same time. Assuming that MP return times and free FP return times will be the same.
 
I don't think they can get rid of the paper fastpasses altogether. Some guests just don't have smartphones. Crazy but true. And without the paper fastpass how are they supposed to remember their ride times? Bring a seperate piece of paper and write it down?
 
We're coming for 4 days last week of August. I'm assuming we can come with our purchased 4 day park hopper, and then if we decide to, we can just purchase Max Pass on our last day? Friday Sept 1st is supposed to be busier so it may be an advantage for that day.
 
Here is the original announcement. I read through all the comments and I saw the question asked a couple of times about whether you'd be able to still use "paper" FP when you have Max Pass but there are no responses to that specific question. Questions about if you can hold a Max Pass and regular FP at the same time were answered with no, but I'm not seeing anything that says you'd be locked into Max Pass once you buy it. It's possible they could have removed the responses though.
https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...-disneyland-resort/?comment_sort=asc#comments
I actually think the exchange took place in the comments to the announcement on the AP facebook page, but after a quick skim of the comments I couldn't find it just now (although about half the comments wouldn't load). But I'm thinking it's a moot point really. Either I imagined this and it was never stated in which case we don't know one way or the other, or it was stated at some point and then the response was deleted which would indicate that the answer given was false or uncertain, in which case we still don't know anything.
 
We're coming for 4 days last week of August. I'm assuming we can come with our purchased 4 day park hopper, and then if we decide to, we can just purchase Max Pass on our last day? Friday Sept 1st is supposed to be busier so it may be an advantage for that day.
From what I've heard, you will be able to purchase for a single day if you choose. It sounds like you can activate it through the app day-of.
 












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