Max Occupancy in DVC Resorts

[DrTomorrow]

[...] That now leaves a studio open (if its a lock off) for maybe 4 more people to stay. So instead of 5 people Disney now has 9 people in the same amount of space. More people more MONEY!!

Bwahahahahaha.

 

[KristiKelly]

I don't really get into the occupancy debate either. I am now pregnant with #3. do I see all of us squeezing into a studio, probably not (unless I only have a few points left & gotta fulfill a little fix ). However, will we do a 1 bedroom, yep for a few years anyway, I can't afford more points for a 2 bedroom right now. I have known people to squeeze 2 adults & 3 kids (ages 4-8) into a room at the All Star, now to that I say "to each it's own" I can't imagine. My kids love aerobeds & I would probably take a twin for them to take turns on. Would we be cramped? I don't think so. How could 5 people be more cramped in a 1 bedroom than 4 people in a regular hotel room? I'm sure I'll get flamed but that's okay, our guide told us that 5 could work in a 1 bedroom.

 

[wisbucky]

I don't really get into the occupancy debate either. I am now pregnant with #3. do I see all of us squeezing into a studio, probably not (unless I only have a few points left & gotta fulfill a little fix ). However, will we do a 1 bedroom, yep for a few years anyway, I can't afford more points for a 2 bedroom right now. I have known people to squeeze 2 adults & 3 kids (ages 4-8) into a room at the All Star, now to that I say "to each it's own" I can't imagine. My kids love aerobeds & I would probably take a twin for them to take turns on. Would we be cramped? I don't think so. How could 5 people be more cramped in a 1 bedroom than 4 people in a regular hotel room? I'm sure I'll get flamed but that's okay, our guide told us that 5 could work in a 1 bedroom.

As much as I am a rule follower I do feel for families with many children. I can certainly see how folks with children would try to occupy a stuido filling it with 5 or 6 people. After all raising children costs money let alone bringing them all to Disney. No flames from me KristiKelly.

 

[Disney Doll]

5 works fine in a 1BR as long as one of them is under age 3 and sleeps in a pack & play.

I agree with not wanting to be tripping over folks on my way to the bathroom etc by having an excessive # of people in a unit. And that is my opinion, and pertains to only how I feel. If other folks choose to put 7 or 8 people in a 1BR with air mattresses all over the place, I couldnt care less as long as I am not one of the people staying in that unit with them!

Human nature being what it is, there are always those who think the rules don't apply to them. I worry about my own behavior and let others worry about theirs.

 

[NMW]

I think that it a good thing to allow 5 people in a one bedroom. Some people were "forced" to get a two bedroom for that 5th person when they didn't really need it in the case that they had smaller children.

That now leaves a studio open (if its a lock off) for maybe 4 more people to stay. So instead of 5 people Disney now has 9 people in the same amount of space. More people more MONEY!!

I never even thought of that. Good Point. This new "policy" probably benefits Disney in many ways. Happier members, more people in the resorts spending more money. Of course, there's probably still those 4 or 5 DVC members unhappy with someone breaking the "official rules" but, I don't think that's the majority of the DVC.

 

[CaptainMidnight]

...If I were a psychologist I would write a grant proposal and come up with some theory for why saying.....

I think if you were a psychologist or behavioral health professional you really wouldn't have to look to hard to see what some of psychological underpinnings of these aurguments are. Most of it is pretty obvious. Occupancy threads are not the only threads where these "underpinnings" come through. You could write up your psychological results in a weekend, and have the rest of the grant money to fritter away.....

I confess, 5 in a one bedroom directly affects my family and our vacation plans, we have three small children. We do not put 5 in a one bedroom just to save money or be 'cheap', it is an issue of safety, our children are not old enough for us to feel comfortable leaving them in a separate bedroom in a travel situation with a balcony directly attached to the room. It would not be comfortable for us to do so at our kids young age. Technically, one is still under three. Certainly as they get older we will spread out into a two bedroom unit. Still, I shouldn't fall for the bait and get suckered into the occupancy discussion as often as I do by the oppposition (which it really has almost no tangible effect on).

The results of The Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory-2 (MMPI-2) instrument for some of the key posters in these discussions are rather predictable, grant or no grant. Just my $0.02.

 

[NMW]

It's always the SAME PEOPLE complaining about 5 in a 1 bedroom. I've only been reading these boards for 9 months and I can tell you that! Why anyone would care that I have my 3 year old in bed with us and my two little boys on the sofa bed, I'll never understand. I actually think people are upset that MS is now upfront about allowing it. It baffles me, but it is fun to read.

 

[DebbieB]

I too find it amazing that a few people get so worked up about this issue. I do think the person that said it's the same people over and over again is correct. We know several DVC families (not DIS board) who have been putting 5 in a 1 BR for years. When I told some of them how angry some DIS board members got at this issue and how long the threads got, they really thought it was very funny. They didn't even realize this was an "issue".

The ironic part is DVC doesn't see it as an issue either.

 

[Disney Doll]

MMax is 5 people if one of them is under the age of 3 and can sleep in the pack & play.

 

[Doctor P]

Obviously DVC DOES see it as an issue if they still see fit to continue to put it in the product understanding check list (and not just in the documents themselves).

 

[CaptainMidnight]

Obviously DVC DOES see it as an issue if they still see fit to continue to put it in the product understanding check list (and not just in the documents themselves).

I do not see that they need to change this process, there are $$ attached to changes. MS is willing to allow some flexibility to this and is standardizing that to say 5 in a one bedroom is OK. That takes care of the issue as far as I can see. It doesn't seem necessary to go through dramatic document language changes because of the flexibility they are offering. Besides, I think DVC always intended to provide that flexibility and that's why guides have been telling 5 in a one bedroom was OK for a long time.

 

[CRSNDSNY]

........
I do wonder though, how many families have 5 or 6 people in a studio, reuse the mugs from 3 trips ago, have taken their kids out of school for the duration of the vacation and then go pool hoping at SAB while staying at OKW...

I reuse my mugs. Am I going to be arrested? LOL

 

[OneMoreTry]

I think the occupancy issue is analogous to speed limits.

Going above the speed limit increases the risk of harming others around you. Yet it's done all the time. And the police allow it, usually up to 10mph above the posted speed. (The exact amount is not the point, so don't harp on that.) And the vast majority of the population have no problem accepting it's OK to speed a little.

To those of you who are vehemently against any bending of occupancy rules: Do you ever fudge on the speed limit? If so, how do you rationalize when the potential harm of that to others is much more obvious than that of squeezing an extra person into a room?

 

[FredS]

Same as speeding? Too dangerous to have a larger unit? "Everyone knows" that Disney doesn't care? Anyone who does care has major personality disorder?

I am with those who choose to follow the rules because 1)it is a rule, and seems perfectly reasonable to me, and 2)I don't want my children's memories of Disney to be like they are hillbillies or refugees, with people sleeping on the floor and too many sharing one little bathroom.

To each his own, I guess?

 

[tinkerbee]

Quote:by FredS{like they are hillbillies or refugees, with people sleeping on the floor and too many sharing one little bathroom.}

My fiancee grew up in a house with 8 people in 5 bedrooms and 1 bathroom I guess that makes him a hillbillie.


And I bet that refugees would be happy to have what comes in a one bedroom.
Get real!!!

 

[DrTomorrow]

[...] And I bet that refugees would be happy to have what comes in a one bedroom.
Get real!!!

Actually, a recent poll showed that 74.9% of all refugees thought that 5 occupants over the age of 3 in a 1BR Villa qualified as 'overcrowding'. Surprising, no?

 

[idratherbeinwdw]

Same as speeding? Too dangerous to have a larger unit? "Everyone knows" that Disney doesn't care? Anyone who does care has major personality disorder?

I am with those who choose to follow the rules because 1)it is a rule, and seems perfectly reasonable to me, and 2)I don't want my children's memories of Disney to be like they are hillbillies or refugees, with people sleeping on the floor and too many sharing one little bathroom.

To each his own, I guess?

What? You don't make moonshine in the bathtub? Gee, next thing you'll be telling me you don't even take the critters to the ce-ment pond at your resort.

 

[dallastxcpa]

What? You don't make moonshine in the bathtub? Gee, next thing you'll be telling me you don't even take the critters to the ce-ment pond at your resort.

You know I am from Texas and I find that Ohhh so funny..... Thanks for the humor.

Of course if your going to make moonshine in the bathtub you have to get the one bedroom because those little studio tubs would never make enough to last you a whole week.

 

[CaptainMidnight]

To each his own, I guess?

Exactly!!! To each his own.

No need to direct disparaging comments toward those taking advantage of the rules MS establishes given thier legal interpretation of the contract in light of, and balanced with taking care of their customer's needs. There are many books on Disney management methods if you'd like to learn more. But I've never seen any references in those books of how directing culturally disparaging comments to individuals with Appalachian mountain heritage is appropriate, or in any way supports a discussion position.

With proud heritage in West Virginia, where I've met some of the most genuine, forthright and honorable people I've ever had the pleasure of meeting.

 

[idratherbeinwdw]

You know I am from Texas and I find that Ohhh so funny..... Thanks for the humor.

Of course if your going to make moonshine in the bathtub you have to get the one bedroom because those little studio tubs would never make enough to last you a whole week.

LOL, naturally, goes without saying!

By the way, I'm glad you took this in the spirit I intended. I absolutely agree with Captain Midnight, there is no place on these boards (or in life for that matter!) to judge other people based on their heritage.

And by the way Fred S, why is the speeding analogy so faulty? It IS true that it's more dangerous to speed than to put 5 in a one bedroom. So if anyone being all righteous about "following rules" speeds they are being a hypocrite.