Mark Spitz; Does he need to Get Over It?

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I had heard a couple of his comments but not all of them. This opinion article spells it all out. What are your thoughts?


Dear Mark Spitz: Get over it. Move on with your life


Maese et al.,

I'll get back to you in a second, because I want to take a second and address someone else who needs a few words of advice right now:

Mark Spitz.

Dear Mark: For 36 years, you've been the greatest Olympian of all time. I really believe that. It's hard to believe anyone would have ever come along with the ability to top what you did in Munich in 1972, but it's about to happen. And instead of whining about how no one has shown you enough respect, or grumbling that it would be demeaning for you to fly to Beijing on your own dime and watch Michael Phelps break your record for most gold medals in a single Olympic Games, I have a better idea what you could do with your time.

You could get over yourself.

I sort of wonder if you might be a little bit bipolar. Seriously. I sat in a news conference less than two months ago at the U.S. trials and listened to you say all the right things. You were graceful. You were respectful. You said that, after all these years, it was time. That if Phelps did break your mark, it wouldn't take away from what you accomplished.

"It's about time someone else takes on this responsibility and I am happy to pass the baton onto somebody that I'm sure I have inspired. There is nothing bad about that. It is only positive. ... He's shown a different kind of courage than I did. I was not chasing seven gold medals."

Those are your words. I scribbled them down in a notebook because I thought it was a a classy thing for you to say. It's hard for a lot of athletes to deal with it when someone better and faster comes along to wipe them from the record books, but you seemed to be at peace with it.

Now you're pouting. You want to be here in Beijing if and when Phelps blows past you like Jason Lezak blew past Alain Bernard in the 400 free relay. But you only want to do it if you can share a little bit of the spotlight.

"I never got invited," you told the Agence France-Presse. "You don't go to the Olympics just to say, I am going to go. Especially because of who I am. ... I am going to sit there and watch Michael Phelps break my record anonymously? That's almost demeaning to me. It is not almost -- it is."

You also wanted to remind people that you probably could have won more events. That you could have won eight medals if they had the 50-meter freestyle back then. (Never mind that Phelps could probably win both backstroke events if he trained for them, which he likely will in preparation for London in 2012, but whatever.) But the most ridiculous thing you said was that you weren't happy how little air time you got when Phelps had a chance to break your record the first time, four years ago in Athens.

"They did not once put my face on television," you recalled. "But as soon as the swimming was over, and Michael Phelps didn't break my record, every time I went to beach volley, they put my face on the volleyballs."

Here is the harsh truth, Mark: A lot of people in the world of swimming really want to see Phelps do this because they've grown tired of your ego over the years. Earlier this year, you took an unnecessary shot at Ian Crocker, saying he needed to stop feeling sorry for himself. You know what's funny about that? Ian Crocker can swim the 100 butterfly (50.40) faster than you swam the 100 free (51.22) in Munich. And he did that in 2005, without wearing a LZR Racer. When the USA coaches heard about your comments, they were incensed. Eddie Reese and Mark Schubert rolled their eyes and Reese looked like he wanted to bite the microphone in half. I'm pretty sure they'd like to see you fade away too.

"His time is gone," said Jon Urbanchek, an assistant coach for Team USA and one of the most respected voices in swimming. "I'm sure he can afford a ticket if he wants to be here. It would have been have nice for him to be here and witness it. I really feel he contributed a lot to swimming. But it's time to turn the reins over to somebody else. You've got to move on with life. Get a life after swimming."

Phelps tells everyone he doesn't want to be the second Mark Spitz, he wants to be the first Michael Phelps. Does that bug you? It sure seems like it. It drives you crazy that it isn't about you.

"He's almost identical to me. He's a world-record holder in all these events, so he is dominating the events just like I did. He reminds me of myself."

You had a great run. You were an inspiration, and you'll always be a legend.

But it's about to end. Handle it with grace. Everyone seems to agree that, even though it's a different era, Phelps is the better swimmer. He's more diverse, he's handling more events, and even though he has a healthy ego, he knows it's not all about him.

Phelps showed up in Beijing with a Fu Manchu that was, in some ways, an homage to you.

That's all the Mark Spitz these Olympic Games really needed.

Posted by Kevin Van Valkenburg on August 13, 2008 6:28 AM | Permalink
 
Was this really necessary????

Ego and Sports figures.... inseparable? Is it shocking?? Muhammed Ali made a reputation out of it.

Highly competitive people don't necessarily make the best personalities. So what? It's not new or news.

The writer needs to get over HIMself.
 
Read that article a few days ago (not the one above but the original one with Spitz) and thought "wow, pouting much" He sounded like a whiner and THANK YOU I thought that "well I could have won 8 too" remark was in remarkably poor taste. Geeze dude I wouldn't have invited you either.

I was expecially shocked when he said what they should have done was have him come over and put the medals on Phelps. Yeah right, because only you are important in greater scheme of the olympic swimming ranks and why should the medal ceremonies be about the winning atheletes.

What a putz.

He has a place in history but the new atheletes deserve their moment. He should get an acknowledgment but it's really not about him.
 
Was this really necessary????

Ego and Sports figures.... inseparable? Is it shocking?? Muhammed Ali made a reputation out of it.

Highly competitive people don't necessarily make the best personalities. So what? It's not new or news.

The writer needs to get over HIMself.

Muhammed Ali was a professional athlete in a sport that was at least 50% showmanship. Mark Spitz has been honored and recognized for his achievements for 36 years, and seems reluctant to "give credit where credit is due". He hasn't "lost" but someone else, younger and stronger is now in the spotlight. I have heard his comments on sports channels and radio commentary, and it makes him sound petty and mean. When he says it in a public forum, it is news. I don't recall these kind of negative comments from Dorothy Hamil for example.
 

does anyone remember after the Olympics he tried to be a stand up comedian, ohhhh he was horible
 
does anyone remember after the Olympics he tried to be a stand up comedian, ohhhh he was horible

You mean he shouldn't give up his 'day job'? ;) Now he can make the circuit as the "Official Whiner of the Olympics".
 
Wow, he sounds bitter. Let the young guy have his spotlight, Mark. He has earned it!
 
does anyone remember after the Olympics he tried to be a stand up comedian, ohhhh he was horible

I remember only for the fact that he was soooo bad it was painful. He had a TV special that was almost unwatchable.
 
Did he become a dentist? I remember a painful comeback attempt. He was to race Tom Jagr (I think, don't know swimmers that well) and from the start he was so far behind.
 
I had heard a couple of his comments but not all of them. This opinion article spells it all out. What are your thoughts?


Dear Mark Spitz: Get over it. Move on with your life


Maese et al.,

I'll get back to you in a second, because I want to take a second and address someone else who needs a few words of advice right now:

Mark Spitz.

Dear Mark: For 36 years, you've been the greatest Olympian of all time. I really believe that. It's hard to believe anyone would have ever come along with the ability to top what you did in Munich in 1972, but it's about to happen. And instead of whining about how no one has shown you enough respect, or grumbling that it would be demeaning for you to fly to Beijing on your own dime and watch Michael Phelps break your record for most gold medals in a single Olympic Games, I have a better idea what you could do with your time.

You could get over yourself.

I sort of wonder if you might be a little bit bipolar. Seriously. I sat in a news conference less than two months ago at the U.S. trials and listened to you say all the right things. You were graceful. You were respectful. You said that, after all these years, it was time. That if Phelps did break your mark, it wouldn't take away from what you accomplished.

"It's about time someone else takes on this responsibility and I am happy to pass the baton onto somebody that I'm sure I have inspired. There is nothing bad about that. It is only positive. ... He's shown a different kind of courage than I did. I was not chasing seven gold medals."

Those are your words. I scribbled them down in a notebook because I thought it was a a classy thing for you to say. It's hard for a lot of athletes to deal with it when someone better and faster comes along to wipe them from the record books, but you seemed to be at peace with it.

Now you're pouting. You want to be here in Beijing if and when Phelps blows past you like Jason Lezak blew past Alain Bernard in the 400 free relay. But you only want to do it if you can share a little bit of the spotlight.

"I never got invited," you told the Agence France-Presse. "You don't go to the Olympics just to say, I am going to go. Especially because of who I am. ... I am going to sit there and watch Michael Phelps break my record anonymously? That's almost demeaning to me. It is not almost -- it is."

You also wanted to remind people that you probably could have won more events. That you could have won eight medals if they had the 50-meter freestyle back then. (Never mind that Phelps could probably win both backstroke events if he trained for them, which he likely will in preparation for London in 2012, but whatever.) But the most ridiculous thing you said was that you weren't happy how little air time you got when Phelps had a chance to break your record the first time, four years ago in Athens.

"They did not once put my face on television," you recalled. "But as soon as the swimming was over, and Michael Phelps didn't break my record, every time I went to beach volley, they put my face on the volleyballs."

Here is the harsh truth, Mark: A lot of people in the world of swimming really want to see Phelps do this because they've grown tired of your ego over the years. Earlier this year, you took an unnecessary shot at Ian Crocker, saying he needed to stop feeling sorry for himself. You know what's funny about that? Ian Crocker can swim the 100 butterfly (50.40) faster than you swam the 100 free (51.22) in Munich. And he did that in 2005, without wearing a LZR Racer. When the USA coaches heard about your comments, they were incensed. Eddie Reese and Mark Schubert rolled their eyes and Reese looked like he wanted to bite the microphone in half. I'm pretty sure they'd like to see you fade away too.

"His time is gone," said Jon Urbanchek, an assistant coach for Team USA and one of the most respected voices in swimming. "I'm sure he can afford a ticket if he wants to be here. It would have been have nice for him to be here and witness it. I really feel he contributed a lot to swimming. But it's time to turn the reins over to somebody else. You've got to move on with life. Get a life after swimming."

Phelps tells everyone he doesn't want to be the second Mark Spitz, he wants to be the first Michael Phelps. Does that bug you? It sure seems like it. It drives you crazy that it isn't about you.

"He's almost identical to me. He's a world-record holder in all these events, so he is dominating the events just like I did. He reminds me of myself."

You had a great run. You were an inspiration, and you'll always be a legend.

But it's about to end. Handle it with grace. Everyone seems to agree that, even though it's a different era, Phelps is the better swimmer. He's more diverse, he's handling more events, and even though he has a healthy ego, he knows it's not all about him.

Phelps showed up in Beijing with a Fu Manchu that was, in some ways, an homage to you.

That's all the Mark Spitz these Olympic Games really needed.

Posted by Kevin Van Valkenburg on August 13, 2008 6:28 AM | Permalink

I read this and I have to give it a big "hookairs". The opinion piece makes it seem like Spitz has been out there regularly for 30plus years making an *** out of himself.

I maybe have seen him four or five times in 30 plus years. I don't doubt he is capable of major ego, but I can't say he is out there enough to deserve the vitrol.
 
I don't get all the Mark Spitz hate here. Seriously, have any of us come close to accomplishing what he did? I doubt it, only one other person on earth has. I think the title of this thread should be "Meeeeeow." It would have been fun to see Spitz in China placing one of the medals on the new kid. I don't blame him for feeling overlooked. Could we go back to blasting Obama please?
 
does anyone remember after the Olympics he tried to be a stand up comedian, ohhhh he was horible

He's a dentist. He went to dental school immediately after college. Every body on he swim team at IU had a huge ego and were pretty arrogant, but Spitz is really a good guy IMO. He was a good friend of a swim team member that lived on my floor in the dorm and was around a lot after he graduated.
 
Seriously, have any of us come close to accomplishing what he did?

Exactly. He has never failed to take the time to talk to me - then or now - a non-athlete who couldn't do anything remarkable athletically. His ego is no bigger, IMO, than any other swimmer I've met.
 
I am sure he is a "good guy", but his comments have been aired and in print, and if he felt that way, he should have only told his best friend. His own comments have not flattered him.
 
I don't get all the Mark Spitz hate here. Seriously, have any of us come close to accomplishing what he did? I doubt it, only one other person on earth has. I think the title of this thread should be "Meeeeeow." It would have been fun to see Spitz in China placing one of the medals on the new kid. I don't blame him for feeling overlooked. Could we go back to blasting Obama please?


No hate, I just don't like whining, self center people (which pretty much covers athletes & movie stars. :rotfl: ).

Seriously,
records are made to be broken. You right not many people have the talent that some of our olympians have but that's what makes his "poor, poor me" song and dance even more disgusting. He was a fabulous swimmer, no one is trying to take that from him, he had his moment in the spot light. MOST people would be proud of that and not go on national TV and complain because he is no longer number one, like he really has had a hard life.

Give me a break, I'm with the OP, Mark grow up. That's like the CEO of Exxon on world news tonight, complaining because he too has to pay $4.00/gallon for gas. Yeah right.
 
This is all over Sports Radio in the NY metro area. He should never have spoken so candidly in public. The comments make Spitz look small and petty. Whether or not he should have been invited is open to debate. His reaction should have been kept private....for friends and family only. He just looks and sounds bitter.
 
Thanks for posting that, Dawn.

Mr. Phelps should take notes. :rolleyes:
 
Mark Spitz was on the Today show this AM with Matt Lauer.
He said that he was happy for Phelps and admired him and that he has given tons of interviews lately and that he never expected anyone to pay for his way to the Olympics. He has been working- and was not available to go when the Olympics started.
He didn't exactly say that the interview was false -but he kind of implied that it was either taken out of context or not true.
 
Mark Spitz was on the Today show this AM with Matt Lauer.
He said that he was happy for Phelps and admired him and that he has given tons of interviews lately and that he never expected anyone to pay for his way to the Olympics. He has been working- and was not available to go when the Olympics started.
He didn't exactly say that the interview was false -but he kind of implied that it was either taken out of context or not true.

Or he realized how bad it sounded and it was time to fix it. If he chose to fix it, he did the right thing. Now let me take some heat off of Mark Spitz;

I could have won those gold medals if I had an engineered swim suit.
I could have won those gold medals if I had size 15 feet.
I could have won those gold medals if I ate between 8,000 and 12,000 calories per day.

I could have won those gold medals.......if the dog paddle was an Olympic Sport! :rotfl2:
 
Spitz's answer was a little hard to follow. He did not give a really straight answer -but he did seem like he was trying to be positive.
Maybe you are right and he was just backpedaling
 


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