Marathon Weekend 2027

This is the one I bought: https://goodr.com/collections/cheetah-g/products/stealth-mode-supreme

Their lens height is much shorter than other Goodrs I’ve tried, which I need to avoid glasses resting on my cheeks and getting shoved down onto my nose by my hat/visor. They’re also super sassy, which I love! Too bad my vision is blurry in them lol!

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On the sunglasses topic, I’ll throw an unpaid plug here for Tifosi, a brand from which I’ve bought 5 different pairs of sport sunglasses over the years and they remain my favorite, most comfortable glasses of all. If they offered bifocals (I cannot do progressives), I’d pony up the cash to get Rx Tifosi’s made.

Thanks for the tip! Those look like they might be a tad wide, but I will definitely seek them out to try on at SS. I have a child-size head, which is super annoying for sunglasses and hats at expos!
 
I have a theory on these runners. They’re obviously genetically gifted to be able to run that fast and that efficiently, and up until this running boom, they’ve been able to get their external validation by doing the “big” marathons. Now with the running boom, these runners have competition for the first time, can’t get in to their big goal race, and cannot accept it gracefully because they’ve never had to accept failure before. These marathons have made up their own ratings, ie Abbot World Majors, and are extremely selective, which drives up demand.

It’s like when you started the college application process. Remember the selective/more selective/most selective system? Colleges and universities created that system, applied it to themselves, and watched as the Type A students drove themselves ragged to get in to the most difficult/selective schools to get accepted. It didn’t matter if these schools were any good. They applied a phony system to themselves and watched the bloodbath.

I don’t think that’s it. As a solidly ~3:20 marathon runner (I think I had a couple of seconds difference between MW 2025 and 2026), I’ve flirted with the idea of getting a BQ, but that would mean essentially doubling my training to get sub-3. My plan is to just get older and hope to keep the same pace, lol. If I spent that much time training to get a BQ but missed the cutoff, while someone else just bought their way in with a charity, I’d be mad too. It’s like if the band you liked for years and saw all their shows suddenly blew up, and now you can’t see them in concert because a bunch of new fans bought all the tickets.

It’s not about “never having to accept failure before.” It’s that all these new people who “haven’t paid their dues” are jumping on the marathon bandwagon. It was always kind of expected that you didn’t try a marathon until after years of running multiple halves and developing as a runner. It was about respecting running as a sport, not just an Insta photo op. Now people who haven’t even run a 5k are signing up for marathons. Not to gate keep, but I do think it’s a waste of a bib for that kind of person to sign up for a race that they will either DNF, DNS, or take 8 hours to complete.
 
I started debating a split stay in the last week (during our 6-day weekend thanks to 4 snow/weather days that sandwiched the weekend) and am wondering if this is truly a DVC pipe dream: Is a BC studio possible to get at 7mo?

Right now I'm booked at Saratoga standard studio for Thursday-Sunday and then Sunday-Tuesday. It's currently split because we have 2 contracts with different UYs due to a really good deal and me being impatient with the resale market. (And I will call to combine them if I can't snag the split.) We are strongly considering trying to move the Sunday-Tuesday over to BC for something different, proximity to the parks, and a "new" pool. We stayed at BC about 10 years ago, so DS3 doesn't really have any memories of SaB because he was so young, and DD has never been.

While I'm also team "SaB is overrated," it's a resort that is near a lot of things and has a point chart that's close to SSRs, so I don't think I'd need to even buy OTU points. But I also know that it sells out for MW, and June is a long way off.
My experience has been that every time I've tried to get a studio at BCV I've been able to. Not for MW, but during the summer and fall. Usually stalking has been more successful than the waitlist, but I've also had a waitlist come through. With stalking it helps to have extra points available, so you can pick up individual nights as they become available, without having to cancel your backup plan.
 
I don’t think that’s it. As a solidly ~3:20 marathon runner (I think I had a couple of seconds difference between MW 2025 and 2026), I’ve flirted with the idea of getting a BQ, but that would mean essentially doubling my training to get sub-3. My plan is to just get older and hope to keep the same pace, lol. If I spent that much time training to get a BQ but missed the cutoff, while someone else just bought their way in with a charity, I’d be mad too. It’s like if the band you liked for years and saw all their shows suddenly blew up, and now you can’t see them in concert because a bunch of new fans bought all the tickets.

It’s not about “never having to accept failure before.” It’s that all these new people who “haven’t paid their dues” are jumping on the marathon bandwagon. It was always kind of expected that you didn’t try a marathon until after years of running multiple halves and developing as a runner. It was about respecting running as a sport, not just an Insta photo op. Now people who haven’t even run a 5k are signing up for marathons. Not to gate keep, but I do think it’s a waste of a bib for that kind of person to sign up for a race that they will either DNF, DNS, or take 8 hours to complete.
I get what you’re saying and agree for the most part. However, the people that are taking eight hours to complete the race are still completing the same race that you do, it just takes them longer. I’m usually in the 3:30-3:35 range, so not too far off from you. I spent almost a year with an injury and had to walk the entire Phila. Marathon and the WDW Marathon. They both took me close to 6 1/2 hours to complete. I honestly think it was harder than running. Maybe not physically, but mentally. I don’t knock the people that walk at all. Especially at rD events. Not to mention, have you ever watched the last hour or so of the marathon in Epcot? It’s like a big party. You have to start somewhere, and there are tons of stories of people that never ran a step in their lives until they decided to do a rD event. One of the things I love about rD is that, yes, they are a real deal race. If you want to use it as a Boston qualifier or to PR it is a great race to do so. At the same time, it can also be treated as a fun event that you don’t have to take too seriously. Every race I run outside of Disney I always try to do the best I can that particular day. At Disney races, sure I want to run a fast marathon, but if something fun is going on or there’s a photo op that I want to take advantage of I certainly don’t get upset if I add 5-10 minutes to my time. That’s what we’re there for. As far as slower runners impeding the faster runners, I don’t really buy it. If someone is a fast runner and is looking to really run a great race I don’t see it being an issue. I’ve been in A corral for every rD event I’ve done. Are there “slow” people that bought their way in through Club Disney? Sure. Are those one or two people walking at the beginning of the race that I will pass within seconds going to have an impact on my time? Not at all. My complaint would be the people that run in a row four people wide that block the course.
 

It’s not about “never having to accept failure before.” It’s that all these new people who “haven’t paid their dues” are jumping on the marathon bandwagon. It was always kind of expected that you didn’t try a marathon until after years of running multiple halves and developing as a runner. It was about respecting running as a sport, not just an Insta photo op. Now people who haven’t even run a 5k are signing up for marathons. Not to gate keep, but I do think it’s a waste of a bib for that kind of person to sign up for a race that they will either DNF, DNS, or take 8 hours to complete.
Since when do we have to pay dues? None of my running friends ever asked me to pay dues. They heard I wanted to join them and run a marathon, and they said, "great! Here's our novice runner coach. He'll get you trained to cross that finish line standing up without injuring yourself." And he did. Two and a half months later, I completed my first 50-mile race. None of the experienced trail runners asked me to pay dues either. They welcomed me into ultra running and gladly shared all their wisdom and experience with me. It's people that view others as having to pay dues before they're worthy of being considered not a waste of a bib that are the problem, not the people signing up for those bibs.
 
6-7 hour marathoner here, with easily 45 years of running experience… I guarantee I’m not slowing down a single BQ-seeking runner from the back of the pack. :rotfl:

Despite having run most of my life for fitness and the pure enjoyment of it, I NEVER considered entering a race until I saw the WDW Marathon in person. I had no idea “normal” people even were allowed to enter races. I truly do not care how folks get there - whether they take their slow, sweet time to build a solid base and increase distance slowly, or go all-in and tackle something enormous right out of the gate: that’s their choice to make. I’m just happy to welcome more people into this fun, weird, sport we all love.
 
have you ever watched the last hour or so of the marathon in Epcot? It’s like a big party.
It's also incredibly emotional. When I was spectating in the tunnel at Connections this January, I noticed a distinct shift as we got to the last hour or so of participants, from party pace to a huge range of BIG feelings. As they came around that corner they were palpable: joy, relief, pain, exhaustion, disbelief, and a thousand others. I switched out my funny signs for the one that said "Believe" and boy did that resonate with every single person who passed by. We shared high fives, screams, hugs, fist bumps and lots of tears through all of it. Yes, there were still those in party mode, but I was truly not prepared for that emotional shift. I know that race probably meant a lot to a lot of runners that day, but it sure seemed to mean more to many of those folks in the back.

I had no idea “normal” people even were allowed to enter races.
THIS!
 
I don’t think that’s it. As a solidly ~3:20 marathon runner (I think I had a couple of seconds difference between MW 2025 and 2026), I’ve flirted with the idea of getting a BQ, but that would mean essentially doubling my training to get sub-3. My plan is to just get older and hope to keep the same pace, lol. If I spent that much time training to get a BQ but missed the cutoff, while someone else just bought their way in with a charity, I’d be mad too. It’s like if the band you liked for years and saw all their shows suddenly blew up, and now you can’t see them in concert because a bunch of new fans bought all the tickets.

It’s not about “never having to accept failure before.” It’s that all these new people who “haven’t paid their dues” are jumping on the marathon bandwagon. It was always kind of expected that you didn’t try a marathon until after years of running multiple halves and developing as a runner. It was about respecting running as a sport, not just an Insta photo op. Now people who haven’t even run a 5k are signing up for marathons. Not to gate keep, but I do think it’s a waste of a bib for that kind of person to sign up for a race that they will either DNF, DNS, or take 8 hours to complete.

I can’t get behind this at all. I have multiple friends who knew I ran marathons and reached out for advice. I didn’t say, “Go run a bunch of 5Ks and halves and get back to me in five years.” It was literally, “Let’s go for a run together and I’ll tell you what has worked for me.”

Running is a community and it’s a big enough tent for everyone. This is especially true at WDW where the passion for Disney is probably a significant motivator for many people in signing up. Whether it’s a medal, photo opp, insta post, or just a sense of accomplishment, I applaud anyone who sets that goal. We should be offering encouragement and support, not “you better reach this threshold or you’ll ruin it for someone else.”

Similarly, if you DNF, DNS, or took 8 hours, I applaud that effort. Not everyone is a born runner or an elite runner. It takes mental fortitude and strength of character to get out and try something daunting, knowing very well you might fail and people might be judging you. Regardless of whether they finish or finish by a certain time, they made themselves better by trying.

It’s a slippery slope when we start drawing lines in the sand and say, “You must be X, Y, or Z to even sign up.”
 
It's also incredibly emotional. When I was spectating in the tunnel at Connections this January, I noticed a distinct shift as we got to the last hour or so of participants, from party pace to a huge range of BIG feelings. As they came around that corner they were palpable: joy, relief, pain, exhaustion, disbelief, and a thousand others. I switched out my funny signs for the one that said "Believe" and boy did that resonate with every single person who passed by. We shared high fives, screams, hugs, fist bumps and lots of tears through all of it. Yes, there were still those in party mode, but I was truly not prepared for that emotional shift. I know that race probably meant a lot to a lot of runners that day, but it sure seemed to mean more to many of those folks in the back.
We weren't far enough back for the course cutoff so didn't see this group but after a harder than expected marathon having you cheering us on and taking that one minute break to say hi was energizing! I know it helped me finish strong. Really appreciate you being out there to cheer everyone on! I can only imagine what it was like for the group at the end knowing they were going to finish but still having the crowds out to cheer them on! I saw some of the same in NYC where runners are still crossing the finish line past midnight. I can't even imagine the effort and perseverance it takes to run a marathon in over 12 hours. Should we take that away from them? I don't think it's a problem, I think it's inspiring. And that's a world major. That's why I love this sport.

I had no idea “normal” people even were allowed to enter races. ... I’m just happy to welcome more people into this fun, weird, sport we all love.

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Good morning, RunDisney All-Stars! The time is upon us! The real competition to determine our favorite Disney movie starts now! Today’s Sundays Are For Disney (SAFD) question is what are your movie choices in each of the match ups below? Let the games begin!

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SAFD: My first round picks are as follows:

  • Lion King over Little Mermaid
  • Beauty & the Beast over Encanto
  • Toy Story over Incredibles
  • Up over Coco

  • Pirates of the Caribbean over Enchanted
  • Mary Poppins over Who Framed Roger Rabbit
  • Raiders over Guardians of the Galaxy
  • Empire Strikes Back over Rogue One
 
This is absolutely brutal. It’s like choosing your favorite child. And yet I think next year’s will be even more difficult! Trying to vote early to avoid undue influence from others!

Ok - I’ve tried to at least stay consistent with my votes over the last 2 weeks even though a few of these are VERY close.

  • Little Mermaid over Lion King
  • Beauty & The Beast over Encanto 🥲
  • Toy Story over Incredibles
  • Coco over Up

  • Pirates of the Caribbean over Enchanted
  • Mary Poppins over Who Framed Roger Rabbit
  • Raiders over Guardians of the Galaxy
  • Empire Strikes Back over Rogue One
 
I have been running for 40+ years - a sub-4 hour marathoner for much of that (father time does take his toll). But the running community has always been one of the most inclusive and supportive communities that I have ever been around. To be honest, that is the only reason that I run in races - to interact with that special group of human beings.

I don't know why people in general have become so angry, but it has creeped into every aspect of our lives - including the running community. It is sad to see, and for so many reasons that are far more impactful than runDisney races. I suspect that what we are seeing here is just an extension of that.

I am a very optimistic person. I believe that the pendulum will swing toward love again soon. Until then, live, love and find joy where you can.
 


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