Marathon Weekend 2019

[pluto377]

Training question for the Dopey vets that follow Galloway. I notice there's some days in the back-to-back weekends that he says 4 mile walk. Do you guys actually walk those training sessions? Or do you still do a run/walk combo? I'm not used to walking an entire training session and I plan on run/walking all the races. I don't want to kill myself training if I don't need to, but I also don't want to be underprepared for that much running.

Also, for those who are on the slower side (I'm currently training around 13:30/mile), what's your longest run going to be? Do you go by miles or time?

 

[hotblooded]

Who wants to choose which race I run for the 2019 Marathon Weekend?!

I'm 90% sure I will be going in 2019.

I'm thinking the half - though I love the full (did in 2013 and 2018).

Maybe a slow full with lots of pictures....

Or a challenge... (I want to, but not really. I need a vacation, not a trip waking up at 2:30 multiple days in a row...)

You said it yourself that you want a vacation... and the half marathon is likely to leave you with more energy to enjoy the parks. I’m partial to it because it means I don’t have to train for a full.

 

[TCB in FLA]

what is the best thing you have purchase at the expo? didn't spend a lot of time there this year because of the weather and the waits, so I'm looking forward to what 2019 has to offer!

My favorite RD item I’ve ever bought was the silver Alex and Ani “I Did it 26.2” Mickey head bracelet (the type on a black cord, not the bangle). Other than fancy occasions, I wear it all the time (as in I don’t take it off to exercise, shower, sleep, etc). I wear it tight against the wrist next to my watch so it’s not really noticeable. It’s my constant reminder that I worked hard to achieve my goals in doing Goofy and what I am working toward in January. Best $50 I’ve ever spent.

 

[TCB in FLA]

Training question for the Dopey vets that follow Galloway. I notice there's some days in the back-to-back weekends that he says 4 mile walk. Do you guys actually walk those training sessions? Or do you still do a run/walk combo? I'm not used to walking an entire training session and I plan on run/walking all the races. I don't want to kill myself training if I don't need to, but I also don't want to be underprepared for that much running.

Also, for those who are on the slower side (I'm currently training around 13:30/mile), what's your longest run going to be? Do you go by miles or time?

I work with Chris Twiggs as part of the Galloway customized training program and asked him this question last year. He did recommend mainly walking the “walk” or at least really reducing your run/walk ratio (I was doing :90/:30 for my runs, he recommended something like :30/:90 for my “walks”). I did turn most of my walks into hikes with friends.

I maxed out at 25 miles last year for Goofy. I knew if I could finish that one (miserable winter day, several of my usual trails still had ice so I did boring repeaters on the defrosted ones), I could do anything. And when I started dragging at Disney, I knew it was still better than that 25 miler.

 

[PCFriar80]

Back for another merchandise comment/observation. I miss the RD vinylmations. I have 2012, and 2014 - 2016. Don't know what happened to 2013 for me? But no vinymations since 2016. They're pretty durable and don't like abrupt window openings/closings, but I assume that's my fault.
I'll also try to do a better job of consolidating my merchandise responses to one post, but who's counting?

 

[PrincessV]

At risk of inciting a riot, I have some weird and concerning breaking news about PoT...

A friend had a half time that was right on the cusp of what we thought would be needed to meet the 5:30 threshold, so she emailed rD about it. rD told her that their calculation requires a 2:30 or faster half to qualify for the 5:30 or faster corrals.

2:30. That’s faster than we thought was necessary, and doesn’t align with any other calculator online. If that’s really what’s being used, it could hurt a lot of folks who entered 2:31-2:40 times thinking they’d be okay.

@DopeyBadger I’d really like to hear what you think of this!

 

[apdebord]

I’ve never really looked after rD races, but besides eBay and the outlet, do they sell “I did it” merch after the fact? I am way too superstitious to buy something that says that before I’ve done the thing, but wouldn’t mind something for the marathon.

Magnets do not work on our cars so my refrigerator is where our AP and race magnets live

 

[PrincessV]

Do you have pictures of the mugs? Why on earth did I never get one. I'll cross fingers they have one in 2019 to fix my missing them in the past!

Only this year’s - the other one broke a couple years ago

 

[camaker]

At risk of inciting a riot, I have some weird and concerning breaking news about PoT...

A friend had a half time that was right on the cusp of what we thought would be needed to meet the 5:30 threshold, so she emailed rD about it. rD told her that their calculation requires a 2:30 or faster half to qualify for the 5:30 or faster corrals.

2:30. That’s faster than we thought was necessary, and doesn’t align with any other calculator online. If that’s really what’s being used, it could hurt a lot of folks who entered 2:31-2:40 times thinking they’d be okay.

@DopeyBadger I’d really like to hear what you think of this!

The big assumption here is that the rD person who answered her email knows what they’re talking about. RunDisney has a very rich and storied history of giving out inaccurate information.

 

[Sleepless Knight]

I’ve never really looked after rD races, but besides eBay and the outlet, do they sell “I did it” merch after the fact? I am way too superstitious to buy something that says that before I’ve done the thing, but wouldn’t mind something for the marathon.

Magnets do not work on our cars so my refrigerator is where our AP and race magnets live

At this year's Dark Side they did have a merchandise tent selling stuff after the races were done. However, according to my sister selection was limited. I didn't look as I had already purchased what I wanted at the Expo.

I also saw some Dark Side items show up at the Earport store in MCO the Saturday after the races, but again there was really only a handful of items compared to the seemingly endless supply of choices at the expo. Maybe a few shirts and the Tervis tumblers.

While this doesn't help superstition, I know that items purchased at the Expo Store can be returned at the World of Disney store in Disney Springs.

 

[cavepig]

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Only this year’s - the other one broke a couple years ago

Thanks! Well, shoot I wish I had bought it, I'm always in a half fog shopping. That is sad your other one broke

I’ve never really looked after rD races, but besides eBay and the outlet, do they sell “I did it” merch after the fact? I am way too superstitious to buy something that says that before I’ve done the thing, but wouldn’t mind something for the marathon.

Magnets do not work on our cars so my refrigerator is where our AP and race magnets live

The merchandise tent after the marathon in the post race area had I did it shirts & pins this year left over. Also some other odds & ends merchandise still.

 

[DopeyBadger]

At risk of inciting a riot, I have some weird and concerning breaking news about PoT...

A friend had a half time that was right on the cusp of what we thought would be needed to meet the 5:30 threshold, so she emailed rD about it. rD told her that their calculation requires a 2:30 or faster half to qualify for the 5:30 or faster corrals.

2:30. That’s faster than we thought was necessary, and doesn’t align with any other calculator online. If that’s really what’s being used, it could hurt a lot of folks who entered 2:31-2:40 times thinking they’d be okay.

@DopeyBadger I’d really like to hear what you think of this!

At first blush, it seems super aggressive and a shift from the past. Could be someone who isn't clear on things (like @camaker said) or an actual possible shift. Would be nice if they just posted their personal cutoffs... Here's a refresh of the data I've come up with at the moment:

What I believe to be very close to the cutoffs:



What this new data set would suggest:



So for a HM time of 2:30, the most commonly used race equivalency calculator (Riegel) would come up with a 5:12 M. McMillan would say a 5:14. RunDisney's data that I've collected to date would say a 5:17. But this new value would put it closer to a 1.14 conversion value. That's a significant difference. Interestingly, it does mark near the 50% mark for actual marathon performances based on Vickers and Williams datasets (suggested new race equivalency calculators). So while it seems like an aggressive conversion on the surface, it does actually best represent reality when it comes to a normal population of marathon runners (based on their HM conversions).

I think if this conversion were old and something I hadn't noticed prior, I'd be surprised if we hadn't heard of more people being corralled in F when they expected to be corralled in E. I'd venture to guess there is a large proportion of runners in the runDisney races falling in that 2:30-2:36 grey area based on the old information and new information. Beyond that, that same conversion would seemingly also carry over to all of the other corrals and we would have people corralled much further from where they expected then we've seen in the past. Seems suspicious but plausible.

If someone wants to take a task and try and email, we should have two people do the following:

1) Someone email stating they have a 2:35 HM and a 1:56 10 miler and asking whether that would gain access to the 5:30 marathon corral.
2) Someone email stating they have a 2:31 HM and a 1:50 10 miler and asking whether that would gain access to the 5:30 marathon corral.

Or more simply, someone just ask for all of the POT cutoffs for the marathon and HM times for all the possible submittable POT distances. Much more direct and blunt method I guess.

 

[Princess_Nikki]

Back for another merchandise comment/observation. I miss the RD vinylmations. I have 2012, and 2014 - 2016. Don't know what happened to 2013 for me? But no vinymations since 2016. They're pretty durable and don't like abrupt window openings/closings, but I assume that's my fault.
I'll also try to do a better job of consolidating my merchandise responses to one post, but who's counting?

Weird they stopped with those. My 8yo DS is obsessed with Vinylmations. I hate when Run disney makes cool souvenirs and then just stop. Lol.

We have a few WDW marathon weekend ones. Have no idea what year they are. I got them at Cast Connection...they were likely left overs!

 

[rteetz]

Weird they stopped with those. My 8yo DS is obsessed with Vinylmations. I hate when Run disney makes cool souvenirs and then just stop. Lol.

We have a few WDW marathon weekend ones. Have no idea what year they are. I got them at Cast Connection...they were likely left overs!

They don't really make vinylmations at all anymore. I think it wasn't profitable anymore. I collected them as well.

 

[Sleepless Knight]

They don't really make vinylmations at all anymore. I think it wasn't profitable anymore. I collected them as well.

I've noticed that Disney tends to go in cycles. For a very long time, pins were everywhere. They're still popular, but I don't think it's as big as it was in the 2000s. Vinylmation came along and that became popular as well, although speaking for myself the frequent blind box nature of the collectible did not interest me at all. I also think the nature of Vinylmation led to some great designs for certain characters and terrible designs for others. I have 3 Vinylmation and 100s of pins.

 

[rteetz]

I've noticed that Disney tends to go in cycles. For a very long time, pins were everywhere. They're still popular, but I don't think it's as big as it was in the 2000s. Vinylmation came along and that became popular as well, although speaking for myself the frequent blind box nature of the collectible did not interest me at all. I also think the nature of Vinylmation led to some great designs for certain characters and terrible designs for others. I have 3 Vinylmation and 100s of pins.

Yeah it’s all about trends. I stuck mostly with the park specific vinylmations.

 

[pixarmom]

They don't really make vinylmations at all anymore. I think it wasn't profitable anymore. I collected them as well.

Three kids - all collectors. Lots of vinylmation displayed in the basement. Nobody has mentioned taking them to college, so I guess they are staying there.

 

[rteetz]

Three kids - all collectors. Lots of vinylmation displayed in the basement. Nobody has mentioned taking them to college, so I guess they are staying there.

Mine stayed in my room at home while I was at college too

 

[BuckeyeBama]

Three kids - all collectors. Lots of vinylmation displayed in the basement. Nobody has mentioned taking them to college, so I guess they are staying there.

Both of my boys collected them. They both gave them to a local children's charity last year.

 

[cavepig]

I liked the mini medals they sold to go around the Vinylmation. I only have one from Everest Challenge though. Best cheapest merchandise ever!
I do wish they still made the Runner vinylmations, but I like how they had the Mickey figurine this year at least.