Marathon Weekend 2016

[BuckeyeBama]

That said, I only do this for race efforts. If you're going to fun-run a marathon, there's really no need to carb load.

Interesting - you still need the same number of calories to carry you the distance. Do you choose not to carb load for fun runs because you consume more carbs during the run? (note - I hate taking in ANYTHING other than liquid when I run)

 

[IamTrike]

Interesting - you still need the same number of calories to carry you the distance. Do you choose not to carb load for fun runs because you consume more carbs during the run? (note - I hate taking in ANYTHING other than liquid when I run)

Wait... I'm not supposed to bring slices of pizza in my Spi-belt?

 

[Keels]

Wait... I'm not supposed to bring slices of pizza in my Spi-belt?

Oooooh. Pizza Rolls!

 

[FFigawi]

Wait... I'm not supposed to bring slices of pizza in my Spi-belt?

That's why I like ultras. They have the pizza waiting for you as you run by.

 

[margitmouse]

Add me to the knee pain camp. My knee's have been just kind of achy for the last two weeks.
......

So how fast can you walk before it counts as running? could you jog?

I don't understand how it's only your legs that are "achy" having done marathons on back to back weekends !?! Truly impressive feat! Hope you figure out the cause, both you and @LSUlakes .

And about the walk /jog..... Now THATS what I'm talking about... We will always try for the loophole to be able to run!

Seriously though, I am taking it a moment at a time... Really. Issue is significant increase in heart rate and burning muscle weakness with exertion, initially I thought I pushed too hard with my training after my half the first of the month, but it's been going on too long now. And as I think back through the summer, some of this may have been going on for longer than I realize. As much as I would like to try to skirt the rule ( you can't imagine the mental gyrations I've done trying to get around this!) I think I'm going to have to be really conservative. I might experiment. I run /walk anyway so I might play with my times to see if I can come up with a combo the doesn't blow the heart rate out of the water...... Or out of my chest!
I can be a bit bullheaded, -sound familiar to anyone?!- and I think I have to remember that a decision to "run" when injured or compromised doesn't just affect me, but has the potential to affect people besides just me;
like runners around me- who wants to see someone get hurt or go down,
my family, and
rD medical people who might have to deal with a medical situation when my own Drs don't even know what's going on.

This is probably more information than anyone wants or needs. I've got the battle of the angel / devil going big time. My running this year has done so much for me, in so many way, ways I can't even express,and I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but you know what I'm trying to say- and I guess the bottom line is I'm scared they're going to find something that's going to stop me from running.
Yep, that's me, Even keel to catastrophic in nothing flat!

So enough of this. Thanks for letting me get to the bottom line,
Send me the therapy bill, and get back to the fueling and recovery discussion!

@SarahDisney - you are the best!!!



Yeah, me too. I just keep repeating to myself: 2018 is not that far...

I'm right there with you gals.... There's no place like Dopey 2018, there's no place like Dopey 2018 there's no place like Dopey 2018!! It will be here soon enough!
Fingers crossed!

 

[margitmouse]

Wait... I'm not supposed to bring slices of pizza in my Spi-belt?

Ha ha ha!! Missed this while I was composing my therapy session!!

 

[cavepig]

Add me to the knee pain camp. My knee's have been just kind of achy for the last two weeks. There hasn't been much acute pain for me but I really wish it would go away. I hope new shoes resolves it for you

DO you do any self massaging of the knees as well as quads, calves, shins? If not I suggest trying it, you can google it if you want to make sure you massage correctly although I kind of just do my own thing. It has really helped me. I have a stick roller but honestly just using my own hands to massage/knead works better. Good luck with it, hope it goes away soon.

 

[Barca33Runner]

@SarahDisney

Thanks for posting the pictures.

 

[Pleglech]

Interesting - you still need the same number of calories to carry you the distance. Do you choose not to carb load for fun runs because you consume more carbs during the run? (note - I hate taking in ANYTHING other than liquid when I run)

I'd argue that a well trained runner needs slightly more calories for a hard race effort, but that's not really the point here.
Yes, I see carb loading as unnecessary for easy efforts because you can take in calories more easily during the race instead ... even if it's just a few cups of gatorade (or a margarita, or whatever). There's no performance tradeoff in that scenario to make up for the discomfort of eating 3,000+ calories of carbs the day before.
That said, YMMV depending on how long you're going to be running.

 

[BuckeyeBama]

I'd argue that a well trained runner needs slightly more calories for a hard race effort, but that's not really the point here.
Yes, I see carb loading as unnecessary for easy efforts because you can take in calories more easily during the race instead ... even if it's just a few cups of gatorade (or a margarita, or whatever). There's no performance tradeoff in that scenario to make up for the discomfort of eating 3,000+ calories of carbs the day before.
That said, YMMV depending on how long you're going to be running.

Thanks - that is what I thought that you meant, and I tend to agree though I do carb load for fun marathons, but to a lesser degree.

 

[BuckeyeBama]

That's why I like ultras. They have the pizza waiting for you as you run by.

I really am going to have to try an ultra some day.

 

[derekleigh]

Does rD sell discounted park passes any more? If so, how great of a deal are they?

 

[Kathymford]

Does rD sell discounted park passes any more? If so, how great of a deal are they?

http://www.gettravel.com/ashhm/themepark.shtml

They don't sell them onsite anymore.

 

[Z-Knight]

I really am going to have to try an ultra some day.

http://www.wser.org

 

[Pleglech]

http://www.wser.org

If you're going to go, go big.

 

[Alicatt]

Dopey badger you are awesome!

 

[Baloo in MI]

Wait... I'm not supposed to bring slices of pizza in my Spi-belt?

There is no such thing as a bad time for pizza!

 

[Baloo in MI]

http://www.wser.org

Western States! My folks live near a portion of the course. I have always dreamed of running this some day. No where near ready for this, or a much less demanding century, or a 50 miler for that matter... But Dopey will be my third marathon so maybe someday! I am looking at my first ultra in September. Any of you ever run Western States, if show share with us!

 

[Z-Knight]

Western States! My folks live near a portion of the course. I have always dreamed of running this some day. No where near ready for this, or a much less demanding century, or a 50 miler for that matter... But Dopey will be my third marathon so maybe someday! I am looking at my first ultra in September. Any of you ever run Western States, if show share with us!

You should watch this docu-movie, very cool: Unbreakable - The Western States 100

http://www.ws100film.com

BTW, to get in is very very very hard - boston qualifying in nothing compared to this.

 

[FFigawi]

Western States! My folks live near a portion of the course. I have always dreamed of running this some day. No where near ready for this, or a much less demanding century, or a 50 miler for that matter... But Dopey will be my third marathon so maybe someday! I am looking at my first ultra in September. Any of you ever run Western States, if show share with us!

You're probably closer to being ready for an ultra than you think you are. I ran my first 50-mile race only a few months after my first marathon. Marathon training is a good base for moving up in distance. The weekday runs aren't too much different. It's the back to back long runs that really get you ready for the extra distance.