I didn't like Fantasmic either. Nor did my DH or DS (4). I didn't know what the fuse was about. We liked the parade there better.
We don't hit every ride. If the line is too long, we pass. We still have a very fun time. I have yet to go on every ride at WDW nor do I aspire to either. We are very laid back when we go.
I am hoping that our next trip will be laid back...even more than this one. Hoping for a long stay so that we can take it easy. And next time we will know that we don't care for Fantasmic and will be able to catch some rides or something during the show - or leave before the big crowd lets out!
Not good about Fantasmic. I have been kind of wanting to see it and DH really has. I realize everyone has a different opinion and likes, but your "dark" comment is one thing I have been thinking from the descriptions I have read. I will go with an open mind though. Gram loves the shows and I got the Fantasmic package so she wouldn't have to wait in line.
Lots of people really love Fantasmic...it just wasn't for us.

You guys might really like it. We didn't do a Fantasmic package and I was glad because we would not have been able to get to those seats because Lauren had to sit in the back with the wheelchair seating.
He he!!
I have to admit - I haven't seen Fantasmic yet and I really don't have any desire to. I've been to Disney a few times since Fantasmic's been there and we just weren't interested. Now talk to me about Illuminations or Wishes and I'm all over it.
It was last on our list of the shows that I wanted to see...but it worked out that we could see it. Would you belive we didn't really get to see either Illuminations OR Wishes?? Crazy trip!!
It's so funny how opinions vary...I love it! That's part of what is great about Disney..something for everyone's taste's.
Of all the evening shows we like Fantasmic best

In fact on Sebastian's wish trip we plan to skip Illuminations and Wishes. I thought that those two shows were too short for the LONG waits on the pavement to get a good view. Plus they started late. During our trip Fantasmic starts at 7:00 p.m. as opposed to Illuminations at 9:00. We love that it's choc-full of Disney characters, especially on the boats at the end. We booked the Fantasmic package again to avoid the wait for seats.
We vowed to never again be a part of the mass exodus leaving the MK after Wishes. Last time we had to get a cab back to our hotel at 10:30 p.m. sleeping toddlers in tow. I think if we ever do that again we'll try seeing it from the rail road platform at the park entrance and thus ahead of the crowds or maybe from the California Grill when the kids are all old enough to enjoy fine dining....Ooo now there's a thought.
Anyway, I'm rambling again!
Another wonderful installment Maroo!!!
That makes sense...if it starts so late that you guys can't enjoy it, then it isn't worth it. We survived and didn't see either. We will try to make it to both this next time, though!!
California Grill sounds AWESOME!!!!! You can also see it from the 4th floor of the Contemporary on the outside porch...they pipe in the music and if you get there early enough, you can actually get one of the "seats" they have there. And the kids can shop while they wait for it... One of the best kept secrets, I think...oops... The secret is out!
Hope someday the real world does work that way.
My DD is not capable of employment where income would be an issue, but I know people who are dealing with this problem.
In many cases, even if they had a good job with a good rate of pay, their paycheck would not cover all the care that they need. So, they have no choice. It is a cruel position to put someone into.
Those First Aid folks there are not just nice. They are really, really nice.
We've seen a number of CMs with wheelchairs over the years and we probably saw this same CM at Beauty and the Beast when we were there in October.
Lucky you remembered it. We usually remember we need a bag after it has started to rain.
We did ride it (several times) with DD, but it
is jerky. That's the part she liked best (my wild child!). I was a bit concerned on one ride because her wheelchair tipped back against the anti-tip bars during one of the jerky parts. She was OK with that (as long as the velcro straps don't come off her feet, she's OK with jerking. If the velcro comes loose, you would think her whole body was in danger of falling out of her chair - even on flat ground in the house.)
In a way, I am glad that it is an issue for Lauren, since it does mean that she could work. I have another friend in the same boat...but she is older...so she is actually IN that boat already. She just can't work for fear of losing her benefits. She does other stuff...like selling crafts and such that she enjoys and can make a little money, but not enough to lose her benefits. But she could be out there working a "regular" job, she is too smart to just stay at home. Plus, the person that stays at home with her could also work...so that is two people that could be gainfully employed that are at home (and not choosing to...I have nothing against SAHMs!)
The system is broken. Someone needs to fix it. Lauren mentioned being a lobbyist for disability rights...maybe she could do that...but she would have to volunteer. I digress...
Oh yeah...there is NO way Lauren could pay for her own stuff...her wheelchair is over $22,000 alone. Not to mention meds, dr visits, other equipment. Car...around $90,000 for a conversion...possibly more depending on her equipment. And they expect her to be "financially independent"... whatever. And both of those things have not been "approved" by her "regular" insurace...so that is no help.
Yeah, this topic gets me going...
You are right...the First Aid folks are REALLY nice!!! At all of the parks, really...although we only tested MK and DHS!
Yeah...I am kinda neurotic about packing EVERYTHING...as I am sure you can tell by the back of Lauren's chair...she has a TON of stuff on there.
The jerkiness really bothers Lauren because she has rods in her back that are fairly new...so she can feel them sort of moving and it drives her crazy. Her back will pop and it is uncomfortable. In fact, hindsight is 20/20, but Lauren probably won't do "It's a Small World" anymore either...(and we probably need to add this to the ride description)...that beginning where it is
really bumpy...we think that Lauren pinched a nerve on that ride...her back has hurt ever since and she is still having some trouble with it. (nerve pain going to her hand so she can't drive...)
I forgot to say "Way to go Lauren on presenting the Bill. What a great exprience."
Thanks!!!

She really enjoyed it and will be doing it again next year. She does lots of cool stuff...she is on Student Council, so she has to speak for them sometimes, too. She is pretty good at that stuff.
Oh my gosh! They actually told Lauren to lie down on the BATHROOM floor???!!?? What??!! and they had a nice VIP room?? You guys ALL should have eaten the shrimp! Well,maybe not Lauren since she was so sick.
I'm so glad you got some pixie dust back at the Contemporary!
Poor Lauren! Poor Maroo!
I'm not laughing at you, really, I'm sure you've been told alerady that Celebration is a town.. ok,I'm a LITTLE bit laughing at you!...
Aww, the bear was very cute!
Ok, I see now that you have been told that hospital was in Celebration! The first time we went through that town, it was a little freaky, like something out of Leave it to Beaver!
Lisa's favorite meal was McDonald's?? too funny!
Lauren looks so pretty at the Beauty and the Beast show!
I don't like Fantasmic either. It is VERY dark, and way to spiritistic for my taste. I wish we would have left before it was done! None of us were comfortable with it at all!
Ok, I think I'm all caught up again! Goondenss, I need to update MY trip report soon! I only have two days left to write about! You are putting me to shame Mary!
I always love reading your comments!!!
First of all...thanks for making me feel better about letting the TR sort of rest a little while...although, you guys need to get on it!!!!!!! I want MORE!
Ha ha...you are right...we should have all had shrimp! It was going to waste anyway...no one else was eating it! And the bathroom floor instead of VIP room...not a good moment for them! And I guess several people have read about it here...
I am definitely going to have to visit Celebration the next time we are there!! We will have to drive by there on the way to or from GKTW...
"...way to spiritistic for my taste."
What a great way to describe it!! spiritistic...that is a word that does describe it well! Yeah...we won't go back.
Alright...so...go update yours!!
