Lost Season 4 *****SPOILER**** Thread!!

[AmberDaClown]

Michael is on the freighter.

Desmond has a "flash in your eyes" moment on the helicopter and we see him with Daniel Faraday (longhaired) in a classroom. He is screaming at him in the promo "Am I gonna die?"

Jack is probably upset because he does not want to see his nephew since he and Claire are half sister and brother.

In the promo, the combo lock is shown stopped on 32.

 

[DisneyMommyMichelle]

Arggg..I don't want to wait another week! I'm totally just trying to find any spoilers I can! hahaha!

 

[DisneyMommyMichelle]

Michael is on the freighter

So is this who Ben is talking about when he says I have a spy on their boat??

 

[DisneyMissy318]

I just wish they would write a book with all of the details - from beginning to end - so I could just read it, have all of my questions answered and just enjoy the show from now until the end! I'm not a patient person! Just think - just because all of the Harry Potter books have been written and we know the end - doesn't mean we don't enjoy the movies when they come out!

 

[marshallandcartersmo]

So is this who Ben is talking about when he says I have a spy on their boat??

I don't think he has a spy. I just think he knows about everything that's happening............

 

[AmberDaClown]

Michael meets Mr. Friendly in a flashback.

 

[Debbie6221]

Jack would be upset if he in any way had anything to do with Claire not getting off the island. He's not upset that Kate has the baby, he just can't bear to see the baby. Jack likes to fix things and he was the one who called the freighter to get them "all" rescued. If his actions caused Aaron to lose his real mother well then the guilt would make him upset. IMHO

This is what I thought too. They wanted us to think it was because it was Sawyer's baby but we know better!

So is this who Ben is talking about when he says I have a spy on their boat??

I do think Michael is the spy as well but who knows.....

 

[gometros]

Jack is probably upset because he does not want to see his nephew since he and Claire are half sister and brother.

As far as we know, does Jack know that relationship yet?

 

[MemoryMakers2669]

Sorry if this was talked about, but why did Jack say there were only 8 survivors? Why are the not telling about the others left there....maybe they didn't want anyone to know? But many did want to leave the island right?

And the sinister (sp?) music when Kate called the little boy Aaron tells us that he isn't hers IMO! Why would she have him though?

 

[AmberDaClown]

As far as we know, does Jack know that relationship yet?

No, but remember last night WAS a flash forward.

 

[MemoryMakers2669]

I don't think the lawyer wanted Aaron to go on the stand, just be seen in the court room to gain sympathy for Kate. Here's a woman who is raising the child of a woman who died in the plane crash kind of thing.

I wonder though if she would be allowed to just keep a child that isn't hers? Maybe she has lied, saying he is hers...cause they wouldn't possibly know I don't think.

 

[TiggerPiglet]

There were 48 survivors of the crash, not 8. So I wonder why Jack would lie. In fact, Kate said you've told that lie so many times, I think you're starting to believe it. I just find it so odd that Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sayid would lie about other people surviving the crash. I know not everyone wanted to get off the island, but there were plenty that did. Why lie about them? I guess that's a question that will hopefully be answered.

I also think Kate is pretending to be Aaron's mother. There's no way she would get him if Claire died, her next of kin would.

 

[suzannen]

"Originally posted bygometros
As far as we know, does Jack know that relationship yet?"

No, but remember last night WAS a flash forward.

Is there anyone other than Jack's father, Christian, that knows of the relationship, though? Is that why he's still in the picture, because otherwise, how would anyone find out?

It seems the more I know, the more confused I get!

 

[justhat]

There were 48 survivors of the crash, not 8. So I wonder why Jack would lie. In fact, Kate said you've told that lie so many times, I think you're starting to believe it. I just find it so odd that Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sayid would lie about other people surviving the crash. I know not everyone wanted to get off the island, but there were plenty that did. Why lie about them? I guess that's a question that will hopefully be answered.

I also think Kate is pretending to be Aaron's mother. There's no way she would get him if Claire died, her next of kin would.

That's what I thought, about Aaron, but then again, isn't the only next of kin that aunt who seemed to hate her? But the baby does have a father, who might come forward to claim his son, who knows.

Also, I think it would be fairly easy for her to say she was pregnant when she crashed on the island. We're not all as huge pregnant as I was with my first! The baby's only what, 2 or 3 months old as of current island time? I'm thinking a plane crash might cause one to go into preterm labor also, so it's possible that her story is that she was 8 months pregnant and delivered on the island or something like that.


I think they're lying about only 8 surviving because that's part of some sort of deal that gets them off. Like "We're sending you home, but if you tell anyone about the others left behind we'll kill them." Or something equally bizarre. If Sayid is supposedly killing people involved with hiding the deaths, I'm guessing there's a lot more to those people that has something to do with why they're lying about only 8 surviving.

 

[justhat]

I also think it would be pretty lame of Jack not to want to see a baby just cause it was Sawyer's. I mean, I know I wouldn't be thrilled to meet the baby of someone who hooked up with my crush, but given the circumstances that he's not off the island and she's alone with the baby, I would think I could overlook it. It's not like he severed their friendship because of the Kate/Sawyer relationship, so it would be weird to not want to see the baby ever.

I think it's more that seeing the baby will remind him of the horrible things that occurred, possibly involving Claire.

 

[disneyfav4ever]

Also, I think it would be fairly easy for her to say she was pregnant when she crashed on the island. We're not all as huge pregnant as I was with my first! The baby's only what, 2 or 3 months old as of current island time? I'm thinking a plane crash might cause one to go into preterm labor also, so it's possible that her story is that she was 8 months pregnant and delivered on the island or something like that.


I think they're lying about only 8 surviving because that's part of some sort of deal that gets them off. Like "We're sending you home, but if you tell anyone about the others left behind we'll kill them." Or something equally bizarre. If Sayid is supposedly killing people involved with hiding the deaths, I'm guessing there's a lot more to those people that has something to do with why they're lying about only 8 surviving.

I think I agree with you on both your theories.

 

[Debbie6221]

I agree with that too justhat.

As far as we know, does Jack know that relationship yet?

In current time he does NOT know yet.

Sorry if this was talked about, but why did Jack say there were only 8 survivors? Why are the not telling about the others left there....maybe they didn't want anyone to know? But many did want to leave the island right?

And the sinister (sp?) music when Kate called the little boy Aaron tells us that he isn't hers IMO! Why would she have him though?

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There were 48 survivors of the crash, not 8. So I wonder why Jack would lie. In fact, Kate said you've told that lie so many times, I think you're starting to believe it. I just find it so odd that Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sayid would lie about other people surviving the crash. I know not everyone wanted to get off the island, but there were plenty that did. Why lie about them? I guess that's a question that will hopefully be answered.

I also think Kate is pretending to be Aaron's mother. There's no way she would get him if Claire died, her next of kin would.

We were lead to believe that for whatever reason they do NOT want people to know about the other survivors. I believe this is to protect them. They saw how screwed they were for leaving so they want them to not reap the same fate. JMHO

I wonder though if she would be allowed to just keep a child that isn't hers? Maybe she has lied, saying he is hers...cause they wouldn't possibly know I don't think.

I think she has lied and Claire is dead. Again JMHO OR she gave her spot up on the helicopter to him and then was hoping to join him later...... OR I do tgo back to believing she will be kicked off a helicopter even thogh DarkUFO said that it was a false rumor. I think that scenario makes sense. He might just be saying it's false now because she doesn't die

I think they're lying about only 8 surviving because that's part of some sort of deal that gets them off. Like "We're sending you home, but if you tell anyone about the others left behind we'll kill them." Or something equally bizarre. If Sayid is supposedly killing people involved with hiding the deaths, I'm guessing there's a lot more to those people that has something to do with why they're lying about only 8 surviving.

ICA!

 

[jenm2878]

So what about the plane at the bottom of the ocean? I know Jack's story said they crashed in the water, but did the plane they found include the extra 6 (or 8) people that supposedly lived? Who is in the plane at the bottom of the ocean anyway?!?!

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

So is this who Ben is talking about when he says I have a spy on their boat??

How about Miles as Ben's spy? That conversation Ben and Miles had last night might have been code, no? 3.2 million? Not 3.3 or 3.4... sounds fishy to me. Payable in TWO days... no, make that ONE week. Could these be coordinates for where the boat is?

 

[justhat]

How about Miles as Ben's spy? That conversation Ben and Miles had last night might have been code, no? 3.2 million? Not 3.3 or 3.4... sounds fishy to me. Payable in TWO days... no, make that ONE week. Could these be coordinates for where the boat is?

I never thought about that, but I thought the 3.2 million was weird too.

And how crazy has Locke become!?! The grenade in the mouth!?! I'm used to think he knew what he was doing, but now he just seems like some crazy dictator.



I also think Claire must die because I just really, really doubt she'd give the baby away, for any reason. I mean, they made such a big deal out of that psychic and how she has to raise the baby herself or really bad things will happen. Just seems weird that she'd give him away, in hopes that he'd be okay or that they could be reunited one day, especially to Kate who told her that she's not good at mothering.