Live Action Snow White - too far a departure from the original?

[Karin1984]

your obsession with Zegler is weird.

Emma Watson on playing Belle - "She is a little different," Watson said. "I think we had a little bit more space and more room to tell a bit more of Belle's story in this one. I hope she's a slightly more modern version...she was updated a little bit but she was pretty progressive in her DNA really. She was a bit of a rebellious Disney princess."

Lilly James on Cinderalla - “This is a girl that’s not sitting around waiting for a prince to come and save her. That she’s got this unbelievable strength and it doesn’t come from fighting or from what happens, it comes from within. And the strength is her courage and her kindness and that, if she has that, she can, in a way, deal with, as best she can, what life throws at her”.

Zegler on playing Snow White - “I just mean that it’s no longer 1937,” Zegler said. “We absolutely wrote a ‘Snow White’ that ... she’s not going to be saved by the prince, and she’s not going to be dreaming about true love; she’s going to be dreaming about becoming the leader she knows she can be and that her late father told her that she could be if she was fearless, fair, brave and true.”

Statement from Disney on leaked photos - Meanwhile, in another statement to The Independent, a Disney spokesperson clarified, “The images that ran [in the Daily Mail] are not official film photos. These show stand-ins for some talent and do not feature Rachel Zegler or Andrew Burnap.”

If you compare the statements of Watson, James and Zegler there are differences.
Watson acknowledges that Belle was already a rebellious princess and she wants to continue on that road.
James describes Cinderella in a way that does apply to the 1950s animation.
Zegler's choice of words shows she has prejudice against the original movie, because the original Snow White was already fair, brave and true, which came from within, without her father telling her that. If you just look at that aspect the new movie has another problem, they are going to spell out Snow's path, so there can be no misunderstandings.

 

[croschek05]

If you compare the statements of Watson, James and Zegler there are differences.
Watson acknowledges that Belle was already a rebellious princess and she wants to continue on that road.
James describes Cinderella in a way that does apply to the 1950s animation.
Zegler's choice of words shows she has prejudice against the original movie, because the original Snow White was already fair, brave and true, which came from within, without her father telling her that. If you just look at that aspect the new movie has another problem, they are going to spell out Snow's path, so there can be no misunderstandings.

There is no point arguing with these people. If you're a true Disney fanatic like myself you should be upset with what the brat said. She's trash. The movie I guarantee doesn't even come out anyway. Disney messed up. That other one that called me weird seems like he/she got triggered doing all that research quoting people. And I'm weird? Oooooofffff.

 

[Karlk]

There is no point arguing with these people. If you're a true Disney fanatic like myself you should be upset with what the brat said. She's trash. The movie I guarantee doesn't even come out anyway. Disney messed up. That other one that called me weird seems like he/she got triggered doing all that research quoting people. And I'm weird? Oooooofffff.

I read they already pushed it back to 2025 and cgi'd some normal dwarves into the advertisement

 

[Moliphino]

I read they already pushed it back to 2025 and cgi'd some normal dwarves into the advertisement

Yeah, that was posted in here days ago.

https://www.disboards.com/threads/l...rom-the-original.3927720/page-8#post-65124579

 

[Evinrude21]

again the obsession with Zelger is weird from some posters in here

"brat" and "trash" because she said somethings you don't agree with LOL

it is a story from 1812 the SHOCK that it might be told different in 2023 is hilarious, but hey some (one) think it might not come out at all......enjoy the Ben Shapiro version i guess

 

[Evinrude21]

There is no point arguing with these people. If you're a true Disney fanatic like myself you should be upset with what the brat said. She's trash. The movie I guarantee doesn't even come out anyway. Disney messed up. That other one that called me weird seems like he/she got triggered doing all that research quoting people. And I'm weird? Oooooofffff.

its not lost on me you don't have issues with what the other live action Princesses said but you do with Zegler.

also "Research" its the internet babe. its called google

 

[longboard55]

Actually I think she looks great as Snow and we know she is a great singer. Maybe watch the movie before we all decide it is a bomb. The little Mermaid sure did not disappoint, was Barbie updated and did it bomb. If they make the same movie people complain, if they change it people complain, if they try something different people complain. Disney spends a lot of money on feature films, and I appreciate what they do.

Its like music, when you go to a concert, do you want to hear the old hits or the new album releases. Give me the oldies, its a mental thing that brings back to our happy memories.

 

[Evinrude21]

So turns out nothing was changed, that original photo were the 7 bandits and never the "7 dwarfs" and are still in the film

Which I thought what (certain) people wanted? instead of changing an established character(s) create new ones if they want to add POCs?

 

[Evinrude21]

Actually I think she looks great as Snow and we know she is a great singer. Maybe watch the movie before we all decide it is a bomb. The little Mermaid sure did not disappoint, was Barbie updated and did it bomb. If they make the same movie people complain, if they change it people complain, if they try something different people complain. Disney spends a lot of money on feature films, and I appreciate what they do.

Its like music, when you go to a concert, do you want to hear the old hits or the new album releases. Give me the oldies, its a mental thing that brings back to our happy memories.

the 8 worst words to hear at a concert "we are going to play some new songs!"

 

[nancipants]

Continuously referring to a 22 year old actress as "the brat" sure is a choice.

 

[longboard55]

Continuously referring to a 22 year old actress as "the brat" sure is a choice.

agree, she is just barely out of high school. Give her a break. Its a true art now to answer a question and not offend someone or some group. What we have ended up with is celebrities that basically say nothing.

 

[thanxfornoticin]

Continuously referring to a 22 year old actress as "the brat" sure is a choice.

Sadly, sometimes when there's not an actual, legitimate point, it's much easier to anonymously name-call and talk over others who disagree. Find it rather hypocritical that we have folks making ridiculous, inappropriate comments about young actresses because they feel they made an inappropriate comment.

And to the poster above who actually recommended watching the movie before declaring it complete garbage? Wow, that's just crazy for some people to even consider!!! We enjoyed BatB, enjoyed the new Little Mermaid, and would absolutely watch the new Snow White to see if we like it. But we'll watch first! People like to complain the remakes aren't like the 'original', and that bothers them. Well, most of the Disney animated features were based on stories and tales that Disney didn't follow - not sure the Brothers Grimm version would have made for a good attraction at the Magic Kingdom - except for today, Halloween, of course.....!

 

[Moliphino]

Sadly, sometimes when there's not an actual, legitimate point, it's much easier to anonymously name-call and talk over others who disagree. Find it rather hypocritical that we have folks making ridiculous, inappropriate comments about young actresses because they feel they made an inappropriate comment.

And to the poster above who actually recommended watching the movie before declaring it complete garbage? Wow, that's just crazy for some people to even consider!!! We enjoyed BatB, enjoyed the new Little Mermaid, and would absolutely watch the new Snow White to see if we like it. But we'll watch first! People like to complain the remakes aren't like the 'original', and that bothers them. Well, most of the Disney animated features were based on stories and tales that Disney didn't follow - not sure the Brothers Grimm version would have made for a good attraction at the Magic Kingdom - except for today, Halloween, of course.....!

I'm not a fan of the live action remakes mostly because they're so close to the originals. The animated versions were wonderful, why do we need almost the exact same thing in live action (or in the case of The Lion King, the exact same thing animated more realistically)?
I don't mind a new take on a classic fairy tale. Ever After is my favorite adaption of Cinderella, for example.

 

[Smugpugmug]

I'm not a fan of the live action remakes mostly because they're so close to the originals. The animated versions were wonderful, why do we need almost the exact same thing in live action (or in the case of The Lion King, the exact same thing animated more realistically)?
I don't mind a new take on a classic fairy tale. Ever After is my favorite adaption of Cinderella, for example.

And when they try to do something new, they completely miss the point of the original (biggest offender is Mulan).

 

[Disneychick13]

I think one of the biggest problems with this snow white live action version is that there have been so many live action versions that have an interesting take on the original story. I really like Mirror, Mirror and Snow White And the Huntsman. I’m just not sure that Disney will come up with an original enough take (if that’s the direction they are taking) along with great casting (no offense to the actress that will be playing Snow White, I just don’t know who she is) and CGI that really blends in well (since that’s what they are doing apparently). From what little they have released about this movie, it doesn’t look terribly interesting but who knows really. I’ll watch it on Disney+ in 2025 and find out then.

 

[bcla]

And when they try to do something new, they completely miss the point of the original (biggest offender is Mulan).

Disney's problem with the live-action Mulan was that they were trying to capture Chinese customers with a plot line that would appeal in Asian markets with lots of ethnic Chinese. But it barely had a theatrical release (even in China although it was approved) and there was some controversy over the lead actress not being "Chinese enough" since she was a naturalized US citizen and apparently referred to herself as "Asian".

 

[PolymerSkywalker]

Disney just needs to pivot to original content and leave the classics alone imho. However, I do understand why they want to use existing beloved IPs, because they bring a fan base in tow already. It’s a tough spot for Disney for sure. With everyone piling on right now with the Disney ridicule, they are in a pretty tough situation.

It comes back to they have to recruit and hire the best creative people on planet earth again, that’s how they right the ship in my opinion. They also have to get these astronomical production and marketing budgets under control. No reason to make movies that require $900 M plus box office just to break even, that isn’t smart business.

 

[BrianL]

Disney just needs to pivot to original content and leave the classics alone imho. However, I do understand why they want to use existing beloved IPs, because they bring a fan base in tow already. It’s a tough spot for Disney for sure. With everyone piling on right now with the Disney ridicule, they are in a pretty tough situation.

It comes back to they have to recruit and hire the best creative people on planet earth again, that’s how they right the ship in my opinion. They also have to get these astronomical production and marketing budgets under control. No reason to make movies that require $900 M plus box office just to break even, that isn’t smart business.

The budget thing has been coming for a while. There was a time when there was room for one or maybe two huge pictures a year from all studios. That's just what the market would allow. Going over $1 Billion was exceedingly rare. But here comes the Marvel Cinematic Universe, absolutley shattering expectations and ramping up an aggressive schedule of several movies a year for Disney (after the Marvel buy). Not only that though, but all of the other studios wanted a peice of that, so suddenly tentpole movies balooned into these huge productions with previously unheard of budgets and box-office expectations to match. The thing is, there were still only so many movie-goer dollars to go around. They canibilized each other and practically squeezed out lower-budgeted and independent fare altogether. For a studio like Disney, even if one only did just okay, they could make it up on the bigger ones - the Avengers, Captain Americas, and Black Panthers, etc. - and they were riding high - and then came COVID. They have not quite figured out how to manage in the new normal of movie-going just yet.

 

[longboard55]

Disney just needs to pivot to original content and leave the classics alone imho. However, I do understand why they want to use existing beloved IPs, because they bring a fan base in tow already. It’s a tough spot for Disney for sure. With everyone piling on right now with the Disney ridicule, they are in a pretty tough situation.

It comes back to they have to recruit and hire the best creative people on planet earth again, that’s how they right the ship in my opinion. They also have to get these astronomical production and marketing budgets under control. No reason to make movies that require $900 M plus box office just to break even, that isn’t smart business.

So how many princesses does Disney need, 50-100. People love reliving the past, we love our Princesses. We don't need 5 new ones a year. That is the Disney formulae. These so called flops still bring in 500 million, how many films do that. Can you imagine what the buzz will be when they do Tangled. A lot more than we got from Elemental, which by most accounts was a good film.

 

[PolymerSkywalker]

So how many princesses does Disney need, 50-100. People love reliving the past, we love our Princesses. We don't need 5 new ones a year. That is the Disney formulae. These so called flops still bring in 500 million, how many films do that. Can you imagine what the buzz will be when they do Tangled. A lot more than we got from Elemental, which by most accounts was a good film.

Yes 500 million can easily be a “bomb” when you spend $350+ million to make the movies.
Disney gets around 50% of box office haul, so you basically have to double the production budget + marketing budget to break even. These movies don’t make for their studios what people assume they do.

Get the budgets down to $200 million all in production + marketing and you can start to make more money on these projects.