Little white Lie???

[Steve's Girl]

Having said that, everyone saying, "Look what you're teaching your child", well, that's a little silly because I doubt any two or three-year-old is paying any attention at all to what mommy and daddy are paying for their ticket!

But, older siblings may be taking note.

 

[QVCshopper]

I think this is why I got so much grief when I took my very tall 2 year old (now 4 and about 4 feet tall) to Disney and got rolling eyes from the CMs at the gate. Some kids are very tall. My pediatrician called her a giant. When she turned 3, you bet I bought her a ticket. And her little brother will be 3 at our next trip, so I'm buying him a ticket as well.

It's just the right thing to do.

 

[StitchandPooh'sMom]

I think this is why I got so much grief when I took my very tall 2 year old (now 4 and about 4 feet tall) to Disney and got rolling eyes from the CMs at the gate. Some kids are very tall. My pediatrician called her a giant. When she turned 3, you bet I bought her a ticket. And her little brother will be 3 at our next trip, so I'm buying him a ticket as well.

It's just the right thing to do.

My kids are tall too. When they went to WDW at 2, I brought a copy of their birth certificates. When they went at three, they each had a ticket. My DD just turned 10 and is almost as tall as I am - now she is an adult for tickets and meal plans. That's just the way it goes.

 

[maxiesmom]

They do have o prove they are 21 with an ID. So you can't compare the two

No, I'm saying the store would have to sell you the liquor unless they could prove you were under 21. That is the same thing as saying Disney has to let your child in for free unless they can prove they are 3 or older. The people who want the product have to prove they are the correct age to get it (or get it for free). Another example is a senior citizen discount. Using Duffy's logic, you would have to give the discount to everyone, unless you could prove they were under the proper age.

You want a discount (or free ticket) from Disney, then you are the one who needs to prove you qualify if asked to do so.

 

[SnowandMittens]

To the OP, do what you want, and please, for your sanity, don't post it on here.

Sorry some people are being harsh. It's against Disney rules, but I can relate to your side of the issue... it's expensive, etc... They do not ask for proof of age, and I wish you luck in whatever route you wish to take.

Have a magical vacation either way!

 

[Vijoge]

Character is doing what's right when nobody's looking.
J. C. Watts

 

[roliepolieoliefan]

No, I'm saying the store would have to sell you the liquor unless they could prove you were under 21. That is the same thing as saying Disney has to let your child in for free unless they can prove they are 3 or older. The people who want the product have to prove they are the correct age to get it (or get it for free). Another example is a senior citizen discount. Using Duffy's logic, you would have to give the discount to everyone, unless you could prove they were under the proper age.

You want a discount (or free ticket) from Disney, then you are the one who needs to prove you qualify if asked to do so.

Its not the same thing, its apples and oranges.

Any liquor store I have ever been in, there is a sign on the window, "Proof of age required" " No one under 21 permitted to purchase alcohol".

There is nothing at Disney that I've ever seen that says proof of age is required for children under 3 to be admitted for free and under 10 to get a childs rate.

If Disney is going to require proof of age it must be told to you ahead of time. I don't rountinely carry my kids passports or B. C. Such as when a reservation is made and the CM asks your kids ages and if you would state two, the CM could say, "You may be required to show proof of age" But they don't.

Disney barely enforces any other rule they set forth, what would make them start now.

 

[Mouse House Mama]

I don't think the main issue is getting caught, but the fact that it is wrong to get something for free that you are supposed to pay for. It is stealing, and stealing on it's own is wrong, involving children is even worse.

Exactly.

Disney is not a right! They are a business in business for the sole purpose of making a profit for the shareholders. It is their RIGHT to decide at any point that you need to prove your child is under 2 -just as Southwest does every time-or make you pay. They could decide tomorrow that everyone pays no exceptions and hearing of all the cheating that goes on at Disney from this board I wish they would, it may slow down the next ticket increase or dining plan increase, because someone pays for the free food your under 3 eats and the CM used to run the ride your free under 3 rides on and believe me it ISN'T Disney............

I don't know why people don't understand this. Disney may seem magical to us but the bottom line is that all that magic costs money. The powers that be only care about that.

Its not the same thing, its apples and oranges.

Any liquor store I have ever been in, there is a sign on the window, "Proof of age required" " No one under 21 permitted to purchase alcohol".

There is nothing at Disney that I've ever seen that says proof of age is required for children under 3 to be admitted for free and under 10 to get a childs rate.

If Disney is going to require proof of age it must be told to you ahead of time. I don't rountinely carry my kids passports or B. C. Such as when a reservation is made and the CM asks your kids ages and if you would state two, the CM could say, "You may be required to show proof of age" But they don't.

Disney barely enforces any other rule they set forth, what would make them start now.

You say that now but give it some time and people will be on here complaining about all the things that Disney "made" them do because simply asking people to follow rules didn't work. Stuff like that happens in a lot of companies simply because people take advantage.

 

[roliepolieoliefan]

You say that now but give it some time and people will be on here complaining about all the things that Disney "made" them do because simply asking people to follow rules didn't work. Stuff like that happens in a lot of companies simply because people take advantage.

Maybe they will, maybe not. There's so many rules out there they don't enforce, so I can't see them getting strict with the age rule either.

Makes no difference to me. I told the OP to lie in my original post.

 

[MrsKreamer]

We have been planning a WDW trip for over a year now. We originally planned to go Feb 09 during Mardi Gras. Well in Sep 08 Gustav hit and we had to use vacation time and saved money to evacuate. We still wanted to go to WDW so we pushed the trip back.
Well I was going through my documents in April and noticed that my TA still had Aiden listed as 2 years old(at the time of the Feb trip he would have been). So I called and told her he was turning 3 before the trip and to make the adjustment and we would pay the difference. She then said"Well, can't you just pass him off as 3? No one will care." I thought about it for a whole minute and decided that I was not cofortable making that kind of lie in front of my children. I told her that he is big for his age and didn't look 2 when he was 2 let alone 3 months after he turns 3. I am paying close to $800 for him. Will he eat that much? Will he get enough out of the parks to justify that? I don't know, but I know it is worth to do what is right, and not lie(for a profit) to people in front of my kids.

 

[C.Ann]

If you have even the slightest doubt about whether you should or shouldn't do this, you have answered your own question..

I wouldn't do it - but I'm not you.. Only you can make that decision and decide if you're comfortable with it or not..

 

[Leajess99]

This is my personal opinion. I am not directing my opinion towards anyone else, just stating my personal views. I personally think it is wrong to lie about age. We try to teach our kids to always be truthful. I do my best to set an example for my kids. Of course, I am not perfect and often have to apologize to them for not setting the example I should. But I do try. To me, saving a few dollars isn't worth setting an example for my kids that it is OK to lie. If it is OK sometimes, when is it not OK?

My son will be 10 right before our next trip. We have just known that this trip would cost more due to his age. We have to save a little longer.

Awww man, now I have to tell my correct age?? Sorry but this just reminded me of when my youngest was 4/5 and telling everyone I was 21. I have a 16 year old who was 14/15 at the time and she was telling everyone I was 21. Now she tells them my correct age as I am not embarassed about it. I got carded if I was going to the casino until I hit 36 and I hated it but the guards always thought I was younger than what I was.

 

[maxiesmom]

Its not the same thing, its apples and oranges.

Any liquor store I have ever been in, there is a sign on the window, "Proof of age required" " No one under 21 permitted to purchase alcohol".

There is nothing at Disney that I've ever seen that says proof of age is required for children under 3 to be admitted for free and under 10 to get a childs rate.

If Disney is going to require proof of age it must be told to you ahead of time. I don't rountinely carry my kids passports or B. C. Such as when a reservation is made and the CM asks your kids ages and if you would state two, the CM could say, "You may be required to show proof of age" But they don't.

Disney barely enforces any other rule they set forth, what would make them start now.

So in your mind a 40yr old could say they deserved to get in free, because Disney couldn't prove their age.

I don't think they need to warn you ahead of time. And people who cheat because they can get away with it are not nice people, imho.

 

[duffy]

My earlier post was in response to a post saying that people have been "caught" and forced to pay up for an older child. I will come right out and say it: I don't believe that has happened. Either the parents caved and admitted the child was 3 or older, or the employees let it go.

I do not believe that the parents in that situation were forced to prove that their kids were under 3, and that because they could not, they had to pay for an older child. I believe it is more likely that the parents tried bluffing, but gave up. If pushed, a determined parent could hold his or her ground and insist the child is only 2, and Disney can't do anything.

I am not condoning this, I'm just challenging the idea that Disney FORCED parents to pay for an older child. The parent may have been SHAMED into doing it, but was not forced.

 

[LIBLULA]

I totally agree

 

[RMulieri]

Maybe they will, maybe not. There's so many rules out there they don't enforce, so I can't see them getting strict with the age rule either.

Makes no difference to me. I told the OP to lie in my original post.

Lying aside...It would not surprise me inthe least if Disney either starts requiring proof of age or charging for everyone.The people that lie about the age of their child may think they aren't harming anyone ,or they know it and simply don't care. but in reality Disney DOES have to absorb the lost revenue.Prices get increased,food prices increase, entertainment budgets get cut.Which of course leads to the 5 million..." disney's magic is lost posts"...Disney makes up for the lost revenue, by passing on the cost to its customers. You may get away with it now, but will definitely pay for it later

 

[WantToGoNow]

What it comes down to is your child is 3 years old by your own admission. Disney charges admission for anyone that has reached their 3rd birthday or older. Did you really expect to ask people if it's ok to lie and expect a positive response? I don't think telling a lie is ever the correct answer for anything.

 

[roliepolieoliefan]

So in your mind a 40yr old could say they deserved to get in free, because Disney couldn't prove their age.

I don't think they need to warn you ahead of time. And people who cheat because they can get away with it are not nice people, imho.

I think you are stretching my post just a little don't you think?

Obviously a 40 yo couldn't pass for a 2 yo.....Hello!

I'm just saying unless a person is an adult usually there is nothing that is carried routinely that legally proves someone age. As I said in my last post, I don't routinely carry my kids passports or BC's unless we are out of the country.

Kids come in all shapes and sizes. When my DS was 3 he was as tall as my almost 6 yo DD is now. How could WDW call me a liar?

They warn people about other things. When I made a ressie for my kids for the Pirate Cruise the CM told me kids are required to wear tennis shoes. If I choose to ignore and not put my kids in tennis shoes then they can be turned away.

Same thing. If a parent is warned proof of age is required. And they can't produce it. Guess the kids and parents are SOL.

 

[tjbaggott]

What it comes down to is your child is 3 years old by your own admission. Disney charges admission for anyone that has reached their 3rd birthday or older. Did you really expect to ask people if it's ok to lie and expect a positive response? I don't think telling a lie is ever the correct answer for anything.

She DIDN'T ask people if it's ok to lie........ HER QUESTION WAS "Does Disney ask for PROOF OF AGE".

 

[Disneyadore]

Actually, only on the DIS does someone have to defend themself for following the rules and doing the right thing. In the real world, it is expected. On the DIS, it's grounds to be called "the moral police", "holier-than-thou", "must have never told a lie", and other lovely names. Go figure that on the message board where people profess to love Disney, many are all too willing to defraud Disney of money if they can get away with it. Anything to save a buck.

Going to Disney is not a right. If you can't pay the required cost of admission, save a bit longer or go somewhere else. Many DISers have cancelled or postponed trips this year due to the economy. It's not rocket science that sneaking someone in who is supposed to pay, regardless of age, is stealing. It's not a little white lie. It is stealing whether you get caught or not, and it is no different than taking $200 worth of merchandise from a store. It makes no difference if the item being stolen is tangible or not. It's no different than a teenager jumping a fence to sneak into Magic Kingdom. I'm sure some on here would support that as well since Disney surely has more money than their precious teenagers who need to go to Disney.

Very wise words. Thank you.
And adding the question: How would all these little white lie-tellers feel if it was there park,hotel,or pool?

How would they feel if there own business that was supposed to make profits were scammed by all kinds of people ?
I think they would cry he......