Little Girls in the Mens Room?

[BlondeAlligator]

My point is that you don't know by looking at me what kind of person I am and what my issues might be...no more than someone looking at my DD can tell that she has autism.

How about you try being less judgmental of how other people live their lives? People have the right to maintain whatever levels of cleanliness that they feel comfortable with, and to avoid whatever germs & dirt that they want. I don't judge you for being willing to belly crawl on the floor of a public restroom, so why should you care if someone else DOESN'T want to???

Live and let live.

 

[thomas998]

Could you possibly be more judgemental and insensitive???

I have OCD...I struggle with it everyday...but I push through it and take my DD to WDW so that my mental illness does not impact her life in a negative way. I use Purell, I wash my hands, she washes her hands at appropriate times, and I am proud to say she only missed 2 days of school this year for being sick.

If I could be free of my OCD I would, but it's the card I was dealt & if Purell makes it possible for me to enjoy WDW then what do you care???!!!

RUDE.

If you want to be free of the OCD its not that hard. Go get a job on a honey wagon... they'll work you half to death the first week, but when you realize after the first week that your still alive you'll stop worrying about dirt and germs. And no I'm not being sarcastic.... and OCD like any phobia just needs to faced for what it is an irrational fear or irrational behavior.

 

[SueM in MN]

That is what i was trying to say earlier. I am a father who may be out with my 6 yr old daughter, or my 4 yr old daughter, or both for that matter. Let's say I have to go to the bathroom, I can't leave my daughters just standing outside waiting for me, can I? I would surely hold it if possible, but I am not about to let my daughters stand outside and wait for me, and I don't think the other men would appreciate me not taking them in a stall with me. At what age would you deem that I allow my daughters to stand outside of a bathroom and wait for me? I believe the circumstances would warrant my actions.

Just in case you are not aware -
the Companion Restrooms at WDW are one room with a sink, a toilet, occasionally a urinal and/or a 'shelf' changing table.
So, anyone using the toilet will be visible to the other people in the room.
I'm not saying you should not use the Companion Restroom in your circumstances, but people posting on these types of threads in the past have sometimes expected that the Companion Restrooms would be set up more like Family Restrooms I have seen in other places; with a room with a lock on the door and then inside the room a separate stall or room so the person using the toilet can have some privacy.

I wouldn't use these as I assumed these were for those who were in wheelchairs needing assistance from their companions to use the restroom. I wouldn't want someone in a wheelchair to wait for my kids to pee.

I've never seen a 20 minute wait in a WDW restroom. And we went twice for Christmas.

If there are 6 restrooms that a person in need of a companion can use, I leave them be.

Thank you.
There are only 5-6 Companion Restrooms in each park. They are not reserved for people with disabilities or special needs; but for those of us with no choice we appreciate it when people look at your other options, and if one of those will work, please use it and save these restrooms for people who don't have any other options.

For some of us, these few restrooms in each park are the only toilets in the whole park we can use. There are not enough of them for the people who absolutely need them. There are only 6 Companion Restrooms in MK; that means that there are only 6 toilets in all of MK that some people with disabilities or special needs can use. Not 6 restrooms with multiple toilets in each. 6 toilets period.
And some of them are relatively inaccessible - for example, one is inside of the waiting area for Cinderella's Royal Table.
One is by Splash Mountain and people use it frequently for drying off if they get wet on the ride. The ones in Toontown and by POC usually mean a long wait because they are being used as Family Restrooms (and angry people knocking on the door because they want to get in). Because of that, it's very difficult to take anyone to the restroom if you need the Companion Restrooms.
The only Companion Restroom in MK that is usually not that busy is in First Aid. That has its own problems; it's small, the floor is sloped; it's not always convenient to go all the way to First Aid and I hate to use it in case someone who is in First Aid because they are ill needs to use it.
There are hardly enough Companion Restrooms for the people who can't use anything else and definately not enough for everyone who wants to use them as Family Restrooms.

 

[Disney8704]

The fact is Im stating MY opinion. I do live in the US and am American. Last time I checked I do have freedom of speech and have the right to voice my own opinion. I really could care less what people do. Hey if you need to be kept clean for health reasons, fine. Thats what you need to do to stay healthy and alive. For those who wanna keep themselves constantly clean just to stay clean, fine. Just dont complain when you get sick and end up in the hospital because you have no immune system.

My point is that you don't know by looking at me what kind of person I am and what my issues might be...no more than someone looking at my DD can tell that she has autism.

How about you try being less judgmental of how other people live their lives? People have the right to maintain whatever levels of cleanliness that they feel comfortable with, and to avoid whatever germs & dirt that they want. I don't judge you for being willing to belly crawl on the floor of a public restroom, so why should you care if someone else DOESN'T want to???

Live and let live.

 

[BlondeAlligator]

If you want to be free of the OCD its not that hard. Go get a job on a honey wagon... they'll work you half to death the first week, but when you realize after the first week that your still alive you'll stop worrying about dirt and germs. And no I'm not being sarcastic.... and OCD like any phobia just needs to faced for what it is an irrational fear or irrational behavior.

Do you know ANYTHING about OCD?

 

[Vijoge]

I can't see why crawling under a stall door to unlock it is a big deal. I've done it (it's been a while and I'd probably get stuck on the floor now, unable to get up!), my kids have done it and my grandchildren have done it. No one died, or even got sick. You get up, wash your hands, and go on with life.

I remember as a young Girl Scout going to day camp and being assigned to latrine duty. My job was to clean the toilets (YES, TOILETS!) in the city park. We had rags, brushes, soap and water, but I don't remember having gloves. We cleaned those toilets daily for a week and we lived!

 

[fey_spirit]

Yes, and planes sometimes fall out of the sky - so let's never fly again.
And people get run over crossing the street so let's never cross the street again.
And wow there have been tractor accidents so let's never till the fields again.
And people drown so let's never swim again.

The world is a dangerous place - and yes sometimes bad stuff happens. So yes we all know of stories where kids get abducted on their way to fill in the blank 3 blocks away. On the other hand it's statistically not all that great a threat. As others have stated your actually in more danger of something bad happening to your kids when leaving them alone with family or family friends. Are you going to stop doing that?

IF so, when does little Johnny finally get to learn how to exist on his own? You can't be there every moment of every day for the rest of his life so you find a balance - and then you let go and let god.

Yup, and the 13yo girl that walked to school in a neighboring district will never be able to walk to school again without feeling scared...(she was grabbed on her way to school 2 months ago and was brutally attacked- they just caught the attacker)...her walk was 3 blocks and she was in 7th grade...

YES, it happens....TODAY I could be driving home from work and die in a car crash...a 20yo could be in a store at the local mall with friends and be murdered by a crazy gunman...

My point is, at what age do you just let your kids grow up? Should a 9yo boy not be allowed to go to the bathroom without his mom at DW?? I agree that protecting kids is a very good reason...but is a 9yo boy in a women's bathroom too overprotective? How bout a 11yo girl in a mens bathroom...at 11, I looked like many adults...?? At what age do parents start to realize that their kids can't be protected from everything??

 

[BlondeAlligator]

The fact is Im stating MY opinion. I do live in the US and am American. Last time I checked I do have freedom of speech and have the right to voice my own opinion. I really could care less what people do. Hey if you need to be kept clean for health reasons, fine. Thats what you need to do to stay healthy and alive. For those who wanna keep themselves constantly clean just to stay clean, fine. Just dont complain when you get sick and end up in the hospital because you have no immune system.

I'm all for free speech, but it is MY opinion that you could state YOUR opinion without being so insulting to other people.

 

[Disney8704]

I know this wasnt directed towards me, but just wanna say that I dont know much about OCD. But can tell you that one of the ways to help with OCD is to face whatever fear you have. So lets just say for an example you have a fear of touching something with germs. If you touch something with some germs on it, not a whole lot, but just a little bit at a time, you'll eventually get over that fear of touching something with germs. It's all about mind over matter / behavioral therapy. Now I dont know why you have OCD, and its not my business to know. Im just saying you can treat OCD without taking Meds or whatever you are doing to help your OCD.

Do you know ANYTHING about OCD?

 

[PrincessKsMom]

Your crawling on the floor. Not through a toilet. How do you get crawling through people's waste on the floor when its not on the floor? And the CPR teacher..yeah. Im not even gonna go there. Im sorry but If I see someone who needs CPR, and I know how to give it, Im gonna give them CPR. Putting yourself at risk? What are you putting yourself risk of? Germs? See this is exactly what Im talking about. Seems like more and more people these days are so worried about germs, they would rather have someone die then have to deal with germs. What if it was your spouse or childern? And you were somewhere without your mask. Would you not do everything in your power to save them? What about kissing? Do you not kiss your kids or your spouse? When you kiss someone, your facing germs.

Have you taken a look at the floors in public restrooms recently? Guess what, the toilet seats are usually disgusting, so guess what's on the floor?

As far as the CPR comments -- check out the American Red Cross website. Here's a specific link re: AIDS:

http://www.redcross.org/services/hss/tips/openkiss.html

There have been no known cases, by the ARC suggests not performing CPR on someone without protection because there is a possibility, that if there is blood in the saliva, you could contract it that way. So if you come upon someone who is on the floor and not breathing, do you know if they have open sores in their mouth, maybe fell and hit their mouth and their gums were bleeding? I don't worry about germs, I worry about diseases. Do a google search regarding saliva bourne diseases. It's quite eye opening. I would suggest you do a little research before giving anyone CPR, for your own well-being and that of your family. I'm sure they'd love to have you around for a very long time and wouldn't want you to take unnecessary risk. As for CPR and my family, there is nothing I wouldn't do for my family, including CPR breathing without a mask, but that's my family.

 

[mkycrzy1971]

You had to search back to 1998 to find that. One can't protect one's children from every possible issue. They would be locked up in their rooms wrapped in bubble wrap, which also could kill them. What child wants to live that way. We were made to reach for independence and autonomy.

The story of the man taking the girl away from the pool area at the Swan and molesting her in the bushes was most certainly true and just happened in April 07...It was in the Orlando newspaper and there were several threads on the Dis regarding this mishap. You never know when and WHERE these things can happen...this is the scariest part as a parent.

 

[chicagodisneyfan]

I don't feel you should ask your kids to do something you might regret later and crawling through urine and feces is definitely something you might regret later.

I have to ask where do you live/shop that floors are covered in urine and feces???

Urine is sterile.

I would never regret asking a child to help another human being. Seriously - I cannot imagine what disease one could pick up by crawling on the floor - it is not like I am licking the floor.

I think this issue is that is sounds gross but that no harm will actually come from it.

 

[tlens]

OCD really has nothing to do with being fearful of something. It's compusive need to do something repeatedly. Give the poor woman a break. She's dealing with it as best she can and tryin not to let her issue affect her daughter. I applaud her for that. I don't think she needs armchair psychologists trying to fix her by offering pat answers.

 

[BlondeAlligator]

I know this wasnt directed towards me, but just wanna say that I dont know much about OCD. But can tell you that one of the ways to help with OCD is to face whatever fear you have. So lets just say for an example you have a fear of touching something with germs. If you touch something with some germs on it, not a whole lot, but just a little bit at a time, you'll eventually get over that fear of touching something with germs. It's all about mind over matter / behavioral therapy. Now I dont know why you have OCD, and its not my business to know. Im just saying you can treat OCD without taking Meds or whatever you are doing to help your OCD.

That type of exposure therapy works well for some types of OCD and most phobias, but in about 20% of OCD cases (myself included), going off meds does not work (esp. when OCD is the result of post-taumatic stress, like mine). I tried that a year ago and my OCD got so much worse I could barely leave the house (it was worse than it was when it first was triggered). I have a DD to think of, and being on my meds makes my OCD managable so that I can give her a normal life.

I cannot believe this inccocent thread has turned so judgemental & nasty.

 

[Disney8704]

Exactly. Infact you can even urinate on a cut like on your finger or on a bug bite and it will help it heal better and keep it from getting infected. So if you think about it. Urine is actually good for you. Not bad for you.

I have to ask where do you live/shop that floors are covered in urine and feces???

Urine is sterile.

I would never regret asking a child to help another human being. Seriously - I cannot imagine what disease one could pick up by crawling on the floor - it is not like I am licking the floor.

I think this issue is that is sounds gross but that no harm will actually come from it.

 

[BlondeAlligator]

OCD really has nothing to do with being fearful of something. It's compusive need to do something repeatedly. Give the poor woman a break. She's dealing with it as best she can and tryin not to let her issue affect her daughter. I applaud her for that. I don't think she needs armchair psychologists trying to fix her by offering pat answers.

I love you. Thank you. Finally someone nice.

 

[Vijoge]

I don't think she needs armchair psychologists trying to fix her by offering pat answers.

Don't you know all the psychologists on the DIS are experts?

 

[missminniemouse]

I was just to WDW with my 8 year old son 3 weeks ago. Normally when we go, it is me, DH, DS8 and DD12, so there are two of us going into each restroom.

Since it was just the two of us on this trip, we did things a bit different. Before we left home we devised a strategy for using the restrooms. He would go in the mens room by himself and when he was finished, he'd come out and wait outside the door for me to finish in the ladies room. He was not to leave that spot with anyone unless the person knew his secret "password" which we had agreed on in advance. I reminded him of this the first few times we used the restrooms (never using the secret word in public, of course.) That way he could not be lured away by anyone that might have less than honorable intentions. He was never approached by anyone, but it sure made me feel better knowing he had rules to follow and understood what to do on his own.

 

[Disney8704]

Contamination

A major subtype of the fear category is the fear of contamination (see mysophobia); some sufferers may fear the presence of human body secretions such as saliva, blood, sweat, tears, vomit, or mucus, or excretions such as urine or feces. Some OCD sufferers even fear that the soap they are using is contaminated.[7] As with the other anxieties, these fears may cause a person to have significant distress, and they may make it hard for a person with OCD to work or go to school or interfere with social relationships.

SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive-compulsive_disorder#Treatment

OCD really has nothing to do with being fearful of something. It's compusive need to do something repeatedly. Give the poor woman a break. She's dealing with it as best she can and tryin not to let her issue affect her daughter. I applaud her for that. I don't think she needs armchair psychologists trying to fix her by offering pat answers.

 

[lntsmom]

I have to ask where do you live/shop that floors are covered in urine and feces???

Urine is sterile.

I would never regret asking a child to help another human being. Seriously - I cannot imagine what disease one could pick up by crawling on the floor - it is not like I am licking the floor.

I think this issue is that is sounds gross but that no harm will actually come from it.

Restroom floors, especially public restrooms, are a cesspool of germs. Anyone who thinks differently needs to do some research on the subject.

Every time a toilet is flushed, a spray of micro-organisms is spread in a radius of almost 6'.

What can you get off the floor? Hepatitis, Montezuma's Revenge, e-coli...just to name 3 that might concern you.

Setting your purse or a diaper bag on the floor contaminates the entire bottom of it. I wouldn't put either on the floor unless it were some sort of emergency.

This is why, in my home, we all close the lid of the toilet before flushing it, and when I mop the bathroom floor I use bleach water, not floor cleaner.