line cutting

[OandA]

I use to let it go too.........but now I simply block the way......NO..I get looks and whatever, but the last time someone tried to pushed measide, I just stood their and they fell on the ground, I called the CM over and told them I was assulted and they couple was removed.

So .........stand up for what is right...AKK

I'm not quite sure what you did was right. People don't just fall to the ground if you stand in their way. You must have exerted some force on this person. Sounds like you were no better than the people "cutting" you...

 

[OandA]

the line was not fast moving my dd just said they just came walking up and cut in, she did say something once i got there. but she is 9 so she would not have confronted them. dh would not have either, even though he is the first to call someone out i think he would not want and issue in line.
i am sure he had no clue who was i front of us or not.. but i do not think he was standing and left a huge gap the kids most certainly would have told him to keep going even if he was on the phone.
either way I guess i would have made sure i told the person in front of me if distracted the line is moving i have done it many times.
also these people were not behind us seeing i also saw who was behind me.
so they did come from either many people behind or just walked on up.

oh and yes how dare I cut back in line with 4 members of my family!
I would have no isse with someone cutting back in line for stroller parking for a kids using the bathroom, or even a husband meeting up with the wife.

1. If there was room for 11 people to "cut" you at TSM, then you weren't keeping up with the line and they probably assumed you were waiting around for someone. TSM has a pretty narrow line, it's not like it was at Soarin'. If you keep up with the party in front of you then no one will be able to fit in front of you to cut...let alone 11 people...

2. You are a cutter too. It doesn't matter if it's stroller parking, husband meeting up with wife, whatever. If all parties get in line together and stay in line together then no one is cutting. Anything else is a form of cutting whether you try to justify it somehow or not.

 

[larryz]

I'm not quite sure what you did was right.

I am.

People don't just fall to the ground if you stand in their way.

Oh, yes they do...

You need to watch more "Funniest Home Videos." There are lots of clips showing people falling down after running into other people/walls/fences/etc.

 

[Wadecool]

I'm not quite sure what you did was right. People don't just fall to the ground if you stand in their way. You must have exerted some force on this person. Sounds like you were no better than the people "cutting" you...

It sounds like the PP was occupying his rightful space in line and the line cutter tried to occupy the same space, which we all know is a metaphysical impossibility. Therefore, said line cutter ended up on the floor. Sounds like just deserts to me.

 

[OandA]

I am.
Oh, yes they do...

You need to watch more "Funniest Home Videos." There are lots of clips showing people falling down after running into other people/walls/fences/etc.

The key there is 'running'. It nearly impossible to RUN through a line cutting people. At best you can do a slow walk while weaving in and out of people. People don't fall down after lightly walking into someone.

And the fact that you claimed you were assaulted is a slap in the face to people who are actually assaulted every day. Someone walking into you and someone assaulting you are two VERY VERY different things.

 

[Danibelle]

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[Wadecool]

The key there is 'running'. It nearly impossible to RUN through a line cutting people. At best you can do a slow walk while weaving in and out of people. People don't fall down after lightly walking into someone.

And the fact that you claimed you were assaulted is a slap in the face to people who are actually assaulted every day. Someone walking into you and someone assaulting you are two VERY VERY different things.

Huh?

 

[larryz]

The key there is 'running'. It nearly impossible to RUN through a line cutting people. At best you can do a slow walk while weaving in and out of people. People don't fall down after lightly walking into someone.

And the fact that you claimed you were assaulted is a slap in the face to people who are actually assaulted every day. Someone walking into you and someone assaulting you are two VERY VERY different things.

If I'm standing in line, and someone walks, crawls, sidles, perambulates, skips, hops, jumps or runs into me while I'm not moving, I'm guessing they're gonna bounce right off of me, potentially losing their balance and falling down.

Especially when I've got a firm grip on the railings on either side.

And while you're researching the video clips, look up "assault" on Wikipedia, and note the comparison and contrast to "battery."

Please don't get us mixed up -- I know all of us posters look alike -- but I'm not the one who bounced the jumper... that was Tonka's Skipper...

 

[CTmommyx3]

wow this is the second time i have posted something that people have turned ugly on. guess i better re-consider posting and for the friend i told to come check out the boards.
i have seen many many topics about how most feel it is fine for a mom and child to join if it is a bathroom run, or stroller park.
and for all the mighty god disney do-gooders and know it alls.
I would have no issue parking the stroller and walking together. but had never been to studios or tsm and had no idea where the stroller parking was or even at the point of line how far up the ride start was.
it was once the lady behind us told me when i asked if they had parking close up. i then ran it back to the spot and came back. i guess yes I am a line cutter. would In have an issue with someone doing the same no way.
1 person is not going to bother me unless they are alone and just getting ahead.
the group of mostly teens appeared to know each other so yes very easy for them to just kind of merge in while the line was on the street part not in the actual ride line.
whatever sorry to even post it since people just have t0 give nasty comments.
i used to like coming here to ask a question or add something that we experienced.
but lately it seems not worth it.
and the woman that was behind us had no issue with me parking the stoller and coming back.
any other rides we all go park it and go to the line, like i said i had no idea where the stroller parking would be.
also I am sure if dh was not moving in the line the family behind us would have said the line is moving and not have wanted to or let a groupd of teens in line.
even if i had noticed it what would i have done but told them why did you cut. I am not one to start yelling or a fight.
My post was simply to say how i was shocke people would really do it.
our other exp at teacups no one was distracted and they just walked up by.

 

[catrax]

Before this thread gets closed, I thought I would ask something I've always wanted to know. When my little ones are moving a little more slowly in the lines, but they are still moving, I find that people want to pass us. The only way that this strategy gets you closer in line is that you are now ahead of someone. It's not like no one is boarding the ride because my kids are walking slowly. What do people think here? Should I just let people pass even though we're going to come to a complete stop in 5 feet, or stand my ground? We would all have a much happier time is we could just be a bit more respectful. Just think of the times that someone in the parks showed you a little courtesy an magic and how good it made you feel.

My philosophy on all of this is that most of the time it doesn't matter if you are right or wrong, but rather what the perspective is of those around you. We never send part of our party to the bathroom while others get in line to save time. I don't blame those that do or block them, either. I have, however, been waiting in line for 30 minutes at Soarin when my 5yo suddenly needed to go to the bathroom and stepped out with him and came back. I'm sure that the line-cutting purists will say that this is also cutting, and I suppose that they would be right, but you have to have a heart that's 3 sizes too small to tell a 5yo to start their wait over b/c they suddenly had to go to the bathroom and can't wait another 20 mins to do it.

 

[OandA]

If I'm standing in line, and someone walks, crawls, sidles, perambulates, skips, hops, jumps or runs into me while I'm not moving, I'm guessing they're gonna bounce right off of me, potentially losing their balance and falling down.

Especially when I've got a firm grip on the railings on either side.

And while you're researching the video clips, look up "assault" on Wikipedia, and note the comparison and contrast to "battery."

Please don't get us mixed up -- I know all of us posters look alike -- but I'm not the one who bounced the jumper... that was Tonka's Skipper...

Assault is not when someone sidles up on you or walks into you. Assault is an act of VIOLENCE against another person. Walking into you is not an act of violence unless you are 5 years old and the person is an adult who causes you harm. You and the OP clearly are not 5 years old.

 

[CTmommyx3]

Before this thread gets closed, I thought I would ask something I've always wanted to know. When my little ones are moving a little more slowly in the lines, but they are still moving, I find that people want to pass us. The only way that this strategy gets you closer in line is that you are now ahead of someone. It's not like no one is boarding the ride because my kids are walking slowly. What do people think here? Should I just let people pass even though we're going to come to a complete stop in 5 feet, or stand my ground? We would all have a much happier time is we could just be a bit more respectful. Just think of the times that someone in the parks showed you a little courtesy an magic and how good it made you feel.

My philosophy on all of this is that most of the time it doesn't matter if you are right or wrong, but rather what the perspective is of those around you. We never send part of our party to the bathroom while others get in line to save time. I don't blame those that do or block them, either. I have, however, been waiting in line for 30 minutes at Soarin when my 5yo suddenly needed to go to the bathroom and stepped out with him and came back. I'm sure that the line-cutting purists will say that this is also cutting, and I suppose that they would be right, but you have to have a heart that's 3 sizes too small to tell a 5yo to start their wait over b/c they suddenly had to go to the bathroom and can't wait another 20 mins to do it.

if you are in line and moving i would think why would people pass your not holding anyone up!
yes i do not make trips to the bathroom and meet up. we have never, even with all the times we had gone with little ones.
But if my 4 year old had to go in the middle of a long wait I would take him and dh would stay in line with the 2 kids. like you said yes some people woud say you are now a cutter.
i bet if it was them with the child they would see it different!
I was in line for the princesses a few years ago just dd and I
dh came over and said how ds was not feeling good and needed to get to the bathroom, i had to leave line to help him and get my other LO and get the stroller parked so he could go alone with ds.i did not expect to be let back in since i and my dd left line.
had we all been in line as a family i would have came back and had them stay

 

[MYD714]

Quite possibly your husband wasn't moving because of the phone call he recieved, and the group of people just walked around him and the rest of your family.

Exactly what I was thinking.

If there was plenty of room to move around the husband while he was on his phone call (and the children) I can see people walking by. As OP said, her husband didn't notice them going by...Maybe OP should remind her husband to keep up with the line. If someone was in the street (in line) and they stopped for a phone call, obviously oblivious to those around them and the wife had gone off to park the stroller, many might think either he was waiting for the wife or his phone call was more important or that he wasn't in line.

If I was behind him I would have asked him if he noticed the line was moving but then some people do not like to be interrupted on their cell phones. I actually have at times asked people if they are in line at some areas and they are NOT. Didn't even realize there was a line. Let's face it TSM is a known zoo. You can't miss a beat if you want to keep up with the line.

I agree.
I admit that if someone was on their cell phone and not paying attention to the line, I would make one attempt to tell them the line was moving and then I would move around them. I'm not going to wait for someone to get off their phone before I move in the line. If someone is concerned with being in the line and not having people cut, then they should pay attention. People can't take a phone call, ignore the line, and then get upset because other people aren't coming to a halt because just they decided to take a call.
If you can't move and talk at the same time, then step aside until your call is over.

Why did the child not speak up while everyone was cutting in front but then was so vocal once the mom came back - vocal the rest of the wait? Did the child speak up and dad didn't hear because of the phone call or did child only speak up when mom came back, knowing dad wouldn't care but mom would? Or did child speak up AFTER mom came back and asked about all the people in front of them?

Good point. I was wondering the same thing.

I realize this situation is different but we've had people give us dirty looks and make rude comments when we walked by them in the LEFT LINES of attractions that none of them realized were open. I'm sure in their minds we were doing something wrong when we weren't.

How about when being told to "fill in all available space" and people think I'm cutting because I'm simply following CM directions. This happens at HM all the time.

Why not give the so called line cutters the benefit of the doubt in this situation since we don't know exactly how it went down?

No offense but since OP was parking the stroller and her family was in line, maybe those behind considered that she was line cutting by catching up to her family?

Why get in line, talk to others in the line, and then park the stroller? I don't get it.

 

[CTmommyx3]

see no matter if dh was not looking like he was in line or not noticing it still had nothing to do with them cutting in. this group was not the few right behind us!!! so if they thought we may not be in line then what they did not notice everyone else behind us in the street!
whatever i am over it!
also as I stated we had never been to studios ot the tsm. so i knew at rd the line gets long into the street. so seeing it was filled with people i figured it would be awhile till i got near the ride where the stroller parking is usually at other rides! so should I have struggled through everyone with the stroller and family only to find once at the start of the ride no stroller area? then had to go again fight through the madness?
Like I said I assumed the stroller parking would be as we got closer, so yes i guess even then i would still need to get out of line and cut in again.
if I was at MK and a line say for small world was out into the main street area i would still have left him in till we got closer to the actual line area.
if I had come back and found the families behind us in front that would be different thinking they maybe just moved around. But this group as my kids said kind of came from the side, like they just made there own line area and merged in.

 

[MaryKatesMom]

As I make my family wait to get into the standby line at Soarin' until I have gotten our fast passes we won't let anyone past us.

One or two people didn't bother me but one day there had to be a dozen or more people that walked past us catching up and it was just too much. Especially since they were behind me in the FP line and we would have been in front of them if we had done the same thing.

 

[OandA]

see no matter if dh was not looking like he was in line or not noticing it still had nothing to do with them cutting in. this group was not the few right behind us!!! so if they thought we may not be in line then what they did not notice everyone else behind us in the street!
whatever i am over it!
also as I stated we had never been to studios ot the tsm. so i knew at rd the line gets long into the street. so seeing it was filled with people i figured it would be awhile till i got near the ride where the stroller parking is usually at other rides! so should I have struggled through everyone with the stroller and family only to find once at the start of the ride no stroller area? then had to go again fight through the madness?
Like I said I assumed the stroller parking would be as we got closer, so yes i guess even then i would still need to get out of line and cut in again.
if I was at MK and a line say for small world was out into the main street area i would still have left him in till we got closer to the actual line area.
if I had come back and found the families behind us in front that would be different thinking they maybe just moved around. But this group as my kids said kind of came from the side, like they just made there own line area and merged in.

You could have asked a Cast Member where stroller parking was...it never hurts to ask.

Also, the best thing to do is not leave space between you and the people in front of you for people to fit into. If you leave enough room for 11 people at TSM then you left a considerable size gap. If it was 2 people I would see it as not really being your fault but for 11 to fit, i feel you were both at fault. If you don't leave room for 11 people to fit, they wont cut.

 

[OandA]

As I make my family wait to get into the standby line at Soarin' until I have gotten our fast passes we won't let anyone past us.

One or two people didn't bother me but one day there had to be a dozen or more people that walked past us catching up and it was just too much. Especially since they were behind me in the FP line and we would have been in front of them if we had done the same thing.

We do the same thing and I can't stand it. And Soarin is a hard line to keep people from cutting. TSM is one thing but Soarin is a big open abyss just inviting people to cut. Especially when people start playing the games and lose track of line movement.

 

[CTmommyx3]

yes next time i am at a new ride i will ask ahead.
i know when i went for the fairies the first time i knew to park my stroller before toontown so i could just go straight there!

 

[kidshop]

Before this thread gets closed, I thought I would ask something I've always wanted to know. When my little ones are moving a little more slowly in the lines, but they are still moving, I find that people want to pass us. The only way that this strategy gets you closer in line is that you are now ahead of someone. It's not like no one is boarding the ride because my kids are walking slowly. What do people think here? Should I just let people pass even though we're going to come to a complete stop in 5 feet, or stand my ground? We would all have a much happier time is we could just be a bit more respectful. Just think of the times that someone in the parks showed you a little courtesy an magic and how good it made you feel.

My philosophy on all of this is that most of the time it doesn't matter if you are right or wrong, but rather what the perspective is of those around you. We never send part of our party to the bathroom while others get in line to save time. I don't blame those that do or block them, either. I have, however, been waiting in line for 30 minutes at Soarin when my 5yo suddenly needed to go to the bathroom and stepped out with him and came back. I'm sure that the line-cutting purists will say that this is also cutting, and I suppose that they would be right, but you have to have a heart that's 3 sizes too small to tell a 5yo to start their wait over b/c they suddenly had to go to the bathroom and can't wait another 20 mins to do it.

We were all the way in front at Soarin' and my dd had to go. Now. They sent my family aside, gave me my fast passes back, and then told me come back all the way on the left to join them right in the front and we got right on. Thank goodness too. That kind of cutting I don't mind. It's a kindness and it was much appreciated.

 

[crazycatlady]

As I make my family wait to get into the standby line at Soarin' until I have gotten our fast passes we won't let anyone past us.

One or two people didn't bother me but one day there had to be a dozen or more people that walked past us catching up and it was just too much. Especially since they were behind me in the FP line and we would have been in front of them if we had done the same thing.

All members of our family enter the line together. If DH is getting FPs (or back in the day when I had to park a stroller or take little ones to the bathroom before a ride), we never get in line and have someone have to "cut" to catch up. Cutting in line is cutting in line, no matter what the reason is. If someone needs to LEAVE a line to take a small child to the bathroom, of course I wouldn't have a problem letting them back in.