Line cutting?????

[JPN4265]

Line cutting is a problem, but when you are in line and you hear "Please fill in ever available spot", what are you to do? You wait to see what the people in front of you are going to do, they don't move, so you do. The one I like the best is when a group of people tell you that they are trying to catch up with the party ahead of you. Why couldn't the party just wait on them? Yea, that's not going to happen.

 

[Uncleromulus]

Back to the original question--line cutting is a problem at WDW. And enforcement is lax, at best. One big reason is that there are too few CM's to monitor things.

 

[Rocktire]

I've been at WDW for 6 days now and haven't noticed a lot of cutting...there's always going to be someone catching up to their party in the line...I don't have a problem with it.

 

[Markstudy]

Back to the original question--line cutting is a problem at WDW. And enforcement is lax, at best. One big reason is that there are too few CM's to monitor things.

Lets see....

Disney keeps cutting cost, so fewer cast members to help enforce the rules.

Teens are watching more MTV, that pushes a steady diet of Gangster Rapp and shows like- My Spoiled Childs Sweet 16 Party.

My guess is... if the people don't stand-up to the cutters...it will get worse each year.

Or we can hope that Disney keeps raising the prices to keep the hoards of aggressive teens and poorly behaved families from being able to afford Disney. (six flags was like a gang fight last time I went there at night...they need to double their prices and get rid of the bad boys in low hanging pants.)

Looking at the big picture-
I'd say it is currently at a 2% problem, and Disney's CPA's consider that an acceptable level of minor inconvenience

What amazes me... Why won't disney put up a sign at each ride in 3 languges. " DO NOT ENTER LINE UNTIL YOUR PARTY IS TOGETHER AND READY TO RIDE"

Until then....it just gives us something fun to complain about

P.S. I don't really want Diseny to raise prices...they are already too steep
Just exploring a point

 

[ICF]

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Well, you are assuming that all families walk right together. On my last four trips, I have went with my son and his fiance and my teenage daughter. This is the order we end up walking in especially when we start to get tired. My son is always ahead of us. Myself and my daughter are usually several steps behind him and his fiance most always brings up the rear. We're not being rude at all - but it does happen occasionally. My son probably wouldn't even notice if his girlfriend stopped to tie her shoe!! So by the time he got in a line, it would probably be 15 to 20 seconds for all of us to catch up together. If anyone has a problem with that, then they need to learn how to relax a little more while on vacation. You need to have realistic expectations when going on a trip like this

Why shouldn't your son wait and get in line for the 15 - 20 seconds it takes you to catch up?

That seems like a better alternative then you walking past the few people that may have gotten in line behind him during that that time.

It's not their fault you walk slow, and seems rude of you to think you should get to move in front of them. Let him get behind them or just wait for you and the rest of your party altogether.

 

[grimley1968]

Why shouldn't your son wait and get in line for the 15 - 20 seconds it takes you to catch up?

That seems like a better alternative then you walking past the few people that may have gotten in line behind him during that that time.

It's not their fault you walk slow, and seems rude of you to think you should get to move in front of them. Let him get behind them or just wait for you and the rest of your party altogether.

Agreed.

Unless there is a real excuse for parties to be split up (bathroom emergency, diaper change, etc.), parties should just wait until they are all together before queueing. It's not everyone else who should relax, it's the son who is getting ahead of his group and then splitting it up at the queue. He should relax and let the group gather.

I tend to walk faster than the rest of my family and often get to a line before them. I'd never even consider entering the line, then having my family cut in front of others just to catch up to me. I always just wait 10-15 seconds for them to catch up, as often DW will have to park a stroller on the other side of a line or something like that. It's just common courtesy.

I was at DL in Anaheim last summer, and some woman got to the VERY END of the Small World line there (it's a longer wait at DL than at WDW usually). She was in a wheelchair or ECV and had to board a special boat that had the correct platform for wheeled conveyances. That boat came around and they boarded her on it. This held up the line slightly, but not too much. THEN the woman said she had to wait for the rest of her party, which had not even entered the line yet! I felt so bad for the CM's who had to deal with this. Guests were rightfully getting ticked at this point, because the backup was getting bad, since no other boats could board while this woman held up the flow. Fortunately, the CM's broke the rules and let the woman's family bypass the entire line and get on the stupid boat with her, so the line could actually start moving again. But they actually had to go search the massive area around the front of IASW to find these people.

Folks, stay with your parties!

 

[DWDude]

They should have set sail with that woman by herself.
Parting is such sweet sorrow.

 

[kimluvswdw]

We had a terrible experience at Big Thunder once. A rude man just about plowed over our family trying to get to the front of the line. I have no idea why he was trying to do this or how far he thought he was going to get. The CM that takes the fastpasses at the top of the ramp could not believe what she was seeing. She said she was sorry that had happened to us and gave us fastpasses to come back again and ride it later. I thought my husband was going to choke that guy. Our second ride on it that day was much better.

 

[grimley1968]

They should have set sail with that woman by herself.
Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Well, maybe with others, but not with this woman. She was quite unpleasant throughout the whole experience, both to the CM's and to others trying to patiently wait behind her. She started defensively yelling at people who started grousing about it that her party was way behind her, and that for some reason nothing could have been done. At some point, she finally started yelling at the CM's, saying the line was badly configured. I felt like saying to her, "No, woman, you just need to wait with your party like everyone else, and stop blaming everyone else for problems that you create."

But I'm much too meek for that.

 

[catherines_mama]

I am sorry if I was wrong, but I figured that most of the people there have children and can understand a newly potty trained childs potty emergency.

I took DD for the 1st time when she was 2 1/2. We would go to the potty before getting into any line. And if we had a potty emergency we'd get out of line and if we still wanted to ride that ride.. rejoin at the tale end of the line.

I travel SOLO and do not have the luxury of a "line holder" therefore we prepare ourselves for these issues. I'm not sure why if my DD and I can do that, others cannot.

 

[grimley1968]

I took DD for the 1st time when she was 2 1/2. We would go to the potty before getting into any line. And if we had a potty emergency we'd get out of line and if we still wanted to ride that ride.. rejoin at the tale end of the line.

I travel SOLO and do not have the luxury of a "line holder" therefore we prepare ourselves for these issues. I'm not sure why if my DD and I can do that, others cannot.

Well said. We've never tried to do the "line holding" thing when we potty-trained our girls, even though we could have. We've always just gotten back in line, at the end.

 

[BamaFan121s]

I understand that sometimes things happen and parties get separated by a few people. I know there have been times when I hopped in line only to turn around and see my family WASN'T right behind me like I thought. In that case, I step to the side and let everyone by until my family catches up--I don't expect them to pass everyone and catch me. But that seems to be the norm--a group gets separated and the 'back' group always wants to catch up to the 'front' group. Why doesn't the 'front' group come to the 'back group?'

 

[DWDude]

Why doesn't the 'front' group come to the 'back group?'

The wait time would be longer?
It would be polite and respectful to do that?
It would be the civilized thing to do?
Doing that might be less stressful?

"Don't care how, I want it NOW!"

 

[BamaFan121s]

The wait time would be longer?
It would be polite and respectful to do that?
It would be the civilized thing to do?
Doing that might be less stressful?

"Don't care how, I want it NOW!"

Lol...EXACTLY...Heaven forbid.

 

[kileybeth]

don't line cut, never have, haven't seen it a lot at Disney but just to add a bit of thought to the discussion (or maybe that is fuel to the fire?) b/c I can be ornery like that. . .

did anyone on this thread realize that lining up/queing is quite an American thing? Many other countries are not taught this practice (in kindergarten or any place else?) . Often it is a free for all at bus stops, banks, eateries, etc. Very eye opening to us Americans. Also Americans "require" a lot more "personal space" than those from other countries.

I'm just saying, not making excuses or anything . . .and of course there is always the "when in Rome do as the Romans kind of thought"

sitting back now in my flame suit!