Line cutting?????

[carol-lamb]

If we are near the end of the line and 1 or 2 members of a party near me in line come to join their party, I don't have a problem with that at all. I know situations come up, such as someone having to get a quick drink at a drinking fountain or sometimes they just walk slower than their party or sometimes they even have to just stop and tie their shoe!! Sometimes the kids can get to the line before the parents and by the time the parents get there, there might already be 1 or 2 people in line behind the kids!! Now if I was way up in the line and someone tried to join a party near me, that would be a different story. I don't think it's fair to have someone stand in a line for a while and then be joined by the rest of their party.

That being said, I have been to WDW so many times and I have never really had a problem with line cutting. Oh I'm sure it's happened, but I can't think of a specific incident that really bugged me.

One more thing about lines, sometimes parties can be separated in the line even though they all entered together (always happens in the Haunted Mansion when you leave the stretching room and have to get in line). I always step aside and let the party join up with the rest of their party, and always appreciate it when others do the same for me.

 

[baileybelle]

Here's some info I found on mouseplanet about the line rage incident:

Sheriff's Office looks for more witnesses to "line rage" incident

The Orange County Sheriff's Office is looking for more witnesses to the "line rage" incident that took place back on May 27. Victoria Walker is scheduled to go on trial October 29 on charges of felony battery for allegedly attacking Aimee Krause because, she claimed, Krause and her children had jumped in front of her in line for the Mad Tea Party attraction.

While several witnesses were found in the days following the attack, the Sheriff's Office is looking for any additional witnesses that they can find due to the increased media attention surrounding the case.

If you were at the attraction and witnessed the incident, please call 407-939-3200 and ask for Detective Kelly Boaz.

 

[trypnotic]

I mean didn't everyone learn not to do this in kindergarten????

Whenever my family and I are in line and if someone cuts, I'll usually pipe up and motion toward my three year old daughter and say, "Even she knows how to wait for her turn in line." It normally doesn't fix the situation but I'd like to hope that maybe that person will think about being compared to a toddler the next time they do something childish like that.

 

[blebert]

After reading this post, I am now wondering if what I did while I was there, was "Line-Cutting". We were waiting in line for a character spot, and the wait was about 40 minutes, while 25 minutes or so into waiting, my DDs ages 3 and 4, decided they had to go potty and had to go now. So after trying to get them to hold it a few minutes, I HAD to take them, well Daddy stayed in Line, and I was off to find a potty, a CM even offered to help carry my children for me. Anyway by the time I got back, daddy was at the front of the line and the CM put him in "Time Out" and let others go by, and as I was trying to get back in line to him, everyone looked at me like I was stupid, and I tryed to explain, that I was in line but had to make an emergency potty run and they still didn't want to let me through.

If this is "Line-Cutting", I am sooo sorry, but I thought I was ok, since we were in line to begain with and had to exit and come back.

 

[DWDude]

"oh EXCUSE US, WE JUST FIGURED YOU HAD A BRAIN!"

This is a good time to drop that melting Mickey Bar down the back of their shirt.
"EXCUUUUSSSSSSEEEEEE MEEEEEE"

 

[Cool-Beans]

Disney says they don't allow cutting in line, but they do. They allow just about anything people don't raise a stink over.

I saw some teens use a lighter in the Haunted Mansion stretching room, when it went dark. CM did nothing. They got on the ride, they got off and went on their way.

I saw a woman hit a woman (long story). The woman who was hit told a CM and the CM didn't say a word, just looked away - as if she wasn't there. She totally did not want to deal with that.

While I think Disney is right to drill it into the employees heads that they shouldn't be rude to the guests (there are some of these kids who get drunk with their "power")...they ought to have them POLITELY escort certain people out. Or have security do it.

 

[skywaywaver]

We're going to Dorney Park tomorrow...we live 10 minutes away and haven't been there in over 10 years because of all the ruder "line-cutting" people we experienced when we were there our last time!
Our poor kids are so deprived as we've never taken them there and we drive by DP alot-LOL! So tomorrow we're surprising them with a day at DP....I only hope the people aren't as rude as they were during our last visit!

We had this problem with the water side of Dorney when we went...never again! The thrill ride side wasn't really bad at all.

While I understand how kids might run up and get into line before their parents, so they might be separated, I don't agree. As a child, we may have run up to the lines, but then waited for the entire party before getting in line. Had this happen at Philharmagic last time...DH nearly bust a gasket, and he's the type that would pick a fight. This time, none of that, esp. with a toddler. He'll have to go be a tough guy on the Thruway.

 

[Mickiethepooh]

After reading this post, I am now wondering if what I did while I was there, was "Line-Cutting". We were waiting in line for a character spot, and the wait was about 40 minutes, while 25 minutes or so into waiting, my DDs ages 3 and 4, decided they had to go potty and had to go now. So after trying to get them to hold it a few minutes, I HAD to take them, well Daddy stayed in Line, and I was off to find a potty, a CM even offered to help carry my children for me. Anyway by the time I got back, daddy was at the front of the line and the CM put him in "Time Out" and let others go by, and as I was trying to get back in line to him, everyone looked at me like I was stupid, and I tryed to explain, that I was in line but had to make an emergency potty run and they still didn't want to let me through.

If this is "Line-Cutting", I am sooo sorry, but I thought I was ok, since we were in line to begain with and had to exit and come back.

I have to say that to me waiting for a picture opportunity or autograph is different than waiting for a ride.
In this case your familiy is waiting for their joint turn, so if you went to the bathroom with child and returned to the line before your family had their turn then the people behind you are not out any more than if your husband got up there before you returned. You get your picture/autograph etc. and move on, also they are very limited , If your family was there in line when they were supposed to be, then it is not like a ride where the ride keeps being there, so if you have to go to the back you will still get on. Characters are only there for so long.
By the same token because they are if you came up late and there was a line waiting and you then got to the front, [which no one would allow anyway but this is just to demonstrate the point] that would blantantly be line cutting and it would disadvantage the others waiting.

 

[blebert]

By the time we got back from the bathroom, Daddy was at the front of the line, and let others go ahead, because we where not back, so the CM, just pulled him to the side and let others go and told him when we came back from the restroom, we could go.

 

[savannahjean85]

well I saw alot of line cutting when I went down in July, a family would get in line and then as they neared the front the rest of the family would magically appear. I mean I could understand in some situation but while waiting in line (toontown's fair for photos) there was a whole family (8 members) infront of us 6 of them decided that they weren't going to stand for an hour 1/2 but would rather go get something to eat and come back and get in line with the other 2 waiting. My friend piped up "That is what a fast pass is for and this line doesn't have that!" I was alittle embrassed but needless to say the family decided to stay and actually "wait" their turn. Her point was right if you don't want to wait fast pass it; if that ride does not have fast pass then you will just have to make up your mind if you are going to wait it out.

As for the lady who was yelled at for going to the podium, I don't see that as line cutting because no one was in a line.

 

[blebert]

I am sorry if I was wrong, but I figured that most of the people there have children and can understand a newly potty trained childs potty emergency.

 

[eeyoregirl1970]

Is is line cutting when you aren't going to ride? A few times when we went last year, my dh and dd would be in line (especially if a queue was really long) and I would go and get some water or a popsicle and then make my way in line with them to wait so I wouldn't have to sit by myself. I hope people realized I wasn't cutting, I was just hanging out in line. Maybe I should tell people I'm not riding if I have to do that again or should I just sit and wait for them?

 

[acourtwdw]

Last year, we were at Space Mtn. (it was walk on) and these teenage kids jumped over the fast pass rails to get around some slow moving people. (ok it was my family) When they got to the top, they were told they had to go back to the end of the line. By the time we had exited the ride, they kids were just being let back in the buildling. The CM had given them a time out.

 

[maxiesmom]

I am sorry if I was wrong, but I figured that most of the people there have children and can understand a newly potty trained childs potty emergency.

I would understand that. It is totally different from a family of 6 deciding to join the 1 person that stood in line.

 

[clownfish1452]

This is what I have to say about line cutting.
I dont think it is right by any means, but it can be a mistake and people do not have to be so rude about it.
This is my story. My sister and I were waiting in line for pictures at CRT and line was moving ahead and I walked ahead not pay attention to who was in front of me. I was just making sure my sister was still in sight. When I looked around me the people that started in front of me where now behind me. OK so not big deal right they were a family of 8 we are a family of 2 still no big deal. The daughter looks at me and says you should be behind us, and I replied yes you are right I did not even notice when I move ahead I got in front of you I was just tring to keep an eye on my sister. Then I said just move ahead of me the next time the line moves I really did not think it really made big of a difference there was about 5 or 6 family still in front of us. They could us jump right in front me, but the father rudely says to me you must be in a big hurry dont worry about it. I really thought that was really uncalled for. I did not do it just to jump the line, I really just did no notice and I offered them there place back in line. Oh well I guess not everyone is so happy to at Disney.

Sarah

 

[grimley1968]

This is sort of how I imagined I'd handle a situation such as that: Just calmly walk around the line cutters and take my place back and if everyone follow suit then they would no longer be line cutters. I wouldn’t intentionally cause a conflict with them – just step around them and take my spot back. What response could they give to people doing that since they were the line cutters?

I've done this. We were waiting for the Teacups, not that there's usually a huge line for that. But we did wait about 10 minutes for our turn, and right as we were rounding the last turn around the chains and into that "holding area" for the next ride, some woman and her family of 5 or 6 comes up to that last turn, seeing no one behind us and proceeds under the chain and in front of us. It took a few seconds for her to get her whole family to join her in the line-cutting. During those few seconds, I simply walked my 2 girls and my wife around the people trying to cut. The woman, who must not have noticed that we were already in line, thought WE were trying to cut, and started shouting obscenities, etc.

I ignored her, and actually kind of laughed about it when we were out of earshot. A CM saw the whole thing and laughed as well.

One lesson in this is that even if you think no one is in line, don't just cut to the front of the line until you are absolutely sure no one is there. If you cut under the chains, that is effectively cutting in front of someone who may have gotten to the line after you, but is going through the line the right way. In our case, we a) got there before the woman and her group, but we also b) assumed nothing and went through the line the way the CM's intended. The woman and her group didn't do either of those steps, and ended up looking pretty foolish in front of a bunch of people trying to cut their way onto Teacups.

 

[skywaywaver]

I am sorry if I was wrong, but I figured that most of the people there have children and can understand a newly potty trained childs potty emergency.

Nope not wrong...potty is an emergency! DH let people go ahead of him when you weren't back...you hadn't wandered off to go get something to drink or just didn't feel like waiting in that line. I wouldn't have been mad if I was behind you...would have been glad that you took your child to the bathroom instead of yelling at him/her that you were on line now and why didn't they ask sooner?

 

[savannahjean85]

I am sorry if I was wrong, but I figured that most of the people there have children and can understand a newly potty trained childs potty emergency.

no I agree you had a valid reason for leaving the line, my problem was with the family who just didn't feel like standing there to wait.

 

[cinderella73]

Well, a lady (oops, make that a woman. it apparently was not a LADY) beat the tar out of another one for cutting in front of her in line for the teacups a few weeks ago. I think I will definitely mind my P's and Q's when I am there in September!

I can totally understand how people can feel this way. Especially when there with young kids. Problem is though that if this woman is crazy enough to do that then she is proably crazy enough to do anything for no apparent reason. Maybe she just thinks you were talking about her or maybe she thought you cut and you didnt. Or maybe she just feels that she has the right to cut because she believes she has spent more money than anyone in line. You can never really avoid people like that.

I know that I would rather leave my place in line and get a CM then let someone pass. If my small kids can be patient enough to wait in line then so can everyone else. If you let 1 person or 2 or 10 people pass you then u can expect that it will happen everytime . If they do it and get away with it they wont stop doing it. Then more people will and so on.

I dont blame you for being cautious though. You have to judge every situation carefully. Lots of crazy people out there. And really if Disney had a stricter policy for it I am sure it wouldnt be as much of a problem.

I think they should give a warning and maybe even make the offenders wear bracelets so they can be watching for line cutting the rest of the day. After that boot them out! So not fair to the good people and familys that have to wait so long as it is.

 

[dixiedizfan]

I've done this. We were waiting for the Teacups, not that there's usually a huge line for that. But we did wait about 10 minutes for our turn, and right as we were rounding the last turn around the chains and into that "holding area" for the next ride, some woman and her family of 5 or 6 comes up to that last turn, seeing no one behind us and proceeds under the chain and in front of us.

Same thing happened to us. DD and I had been winding our way around the Teacups holding area, and right at the last turn, a woman and six or seven others with her all of a sudden lifted the chain on the side and started coming through, right in front of us. I didn't say anything, but did give her a "look", which was enough for her to have her group wait while we passed by them.