Line cutting?????

[mgilmer]

This should be interesting.

I agree, but I am not posting!

 

[baileybelle]

Is this considered cutting? We had ADR's at LTT for 12 noon. There was a line when we got there at about 11:45. I asked every person ahead of me if they had reservations. Every one of them said no. I told every one in line that I did have an ADR for 12 noon and would be late, so I proceeded to the LTT desk.

Is this line cutting? Just about everybody in that line had no idea what an ADR was or how to make one. After I checked in, several people did ask the CM how to make reservations.

 

[grimley1968]

Is this considered cutting? We had ADR's at LTT for 12 noon. There was a line when we got there at about 11:45. I asked every person ahead of me if they had reservations. Every one of them said no. I told every one in line that I did have an ADR for 12 noon and would be late, so I proceeded to the LTT desk.

Is this line cutting? Just about everybody in that line had no idea what an ADR was or how to make one. After I checked in, several people did ask the CM how to make reservations.

I don't consider this line-cutting.

First of all, it's not an attraction, but a restaurant. A very different set of rules applies.

Also, if those people did not have ADR's, they weren't going to be delayed in seating if you merely walked up to the other side of the LTT desk and reported that you were there in time for the ADR. I would think that, if I were without an ADR for LTT, I'd appreciate those who did have ADR's reporting themselves, so I'd have a better idea if I really had a chance of getting in or not.

 

[disneyjunkie]

Is this considered cutting? We had ADR's at LTT for 12 noon. There was a line when we got there at about 11:45. I asked every person ahead of me if they had reservations. Every one of them said no. I told every one in line that I did have an ADR for 12 noon and would be late, so I proceeded to the LTT desk.

Is this line cutting? Just about everybody in that line had no idea what an ADR was or how to make one. After I checked in, several people did ask the CM how to make reservations.

How many CMs were at the podium? If only one person was dealing with walk ups and ADRs, then I think it's cutting. Everyone was in line waiting to speak with the one CM.

I've had people get angry with me at the turnstiles to enter the parks. Once we get past the bag check, I look for the green light on the turnstiles.

I can't count the number of times that two turnstiles will be lit up but everyone is standing in one line. I'll walk over and ask the CM if I can enter and they always say sure, come on in.

At this point other guest will rush over and start complaining because I got in ahead of them.

Why is it my fault that they just hopped into line without taking the time to observe what was going on around them?

 

[Stinky_Pete]

... I know situations come up, such as someone having to get a quick drink at a drinking fountain or sometimes they just walk slower than their party or sometimes they even have to just stop and tie their shoe!! Sometimes the kids can get to the line before the parents and by the time the parents get there, there might already be 1 or 2 people in line behind the kids!!

In these types of situations the best thing to do is wait for the rest of the party then all get in line together. In all the trips I've made to WDW we have never considered not waiting for someone to tie a shoe, go to the restroom or get a drink of water - that's rude.

well I saw alot of line cutting when I went down in July, a family would get in line and then as they neared the front the rest of the family would magically appear. I mean I could understand in some situation but while waiting in line (toontown's fair for photos) there was a whole family (8 members) infront of us 6 of them decided that they weren't going to stand for an hour 1/2 but would rather go get something to eat and come back and get in line with the other 2 waiting.

On the DIS I'm always seeing the "toddler needing the potty" excuse but I have yet to witness that in real life. It has almost always been teens and tweens "catching up" to their family...yeah, right.

 

[KathADisneyFan]

Last Thursday morning on Space mountain, a group of people pushed past me saying we have to meet up with our family. Sure enough there was no family to meet up with and they got pretty far up the line! A few minutes later another woman pushed past me saying, that she was meeting up with them. Not a cast member in sight and I was with my DD, so I kept my mouth shut. Some people are just rude!!!

 

[bluefairy13]

I'm not sure if I have ever had anyone try to cut in front of me. Is it really such a huge problem?

I take that back, I remember once years and years ago when my daughter was little there were some spring breakers who were cutting at Splash Mountain and one minute they were cutting and the next I saw WDW employees escorting them somewhere. I assumed out of the park!

But really, that's all I can remember in the last 20 years!

 

[WendyBirdGirl]

What's worse is when parents train their children to line cut. Working in Entertainment, I see SO MANY parents stand off to the side of the VERY OBVIOUS queue with a child, murmuring something along the lines of, "When that little boy steps away, you RUN up there with your autograph book and turn and smile at mommy for a picture" because they don't want to wait in the line. Ugh.

 

[carol-lamb]

In these types of situations the best thing to do is wait for the rest of the party then all get in line together. In all the trips I've made to WDW we have never considered not waiting for someone to tie a shoe, go to the restroom or get a drink of water - that's rude.

Well, you are assuming that all families walk right together. On my last four trips, I have went with my son and his fiance and my teenage daughter. This is the order we end up walking in especially when we start to get tired. My son is always ahead of us. Myself and my daughter are usually several steps behind him and his fiance most always brings up the rear. We're not being rude at all - but it does happen occasionally. My son probably wouldn't even notice if his girlfriend stopped to tie her shoe!! So by the time he got in a line, it would probably be 15 to 20 seconds for all of us to catch up together. If anyone has a problem with that, then they need to learn how to relax a little more while on vacation. You need to have realistic expectations when going on a trip like this. Any type of amusement park lends itself to this type of behavior. In a perfect world maybe, but we all know we don't live in a perfect world - even Disney World isn't perfect - as much as we would like to believe it is.

 

[jpolak]

 

[sdzman]

If anyone has a problem with that, then they need to learn how to relax a little more while on vacation. You need to have realistic expectations when going on a trip like this. Any type of amusement park lends itself to this type of behavior. In a perfect world maybe, but we all know we don't live in a perfect world - even Disney World isn't perfect - as much as we would like to believe it is.

I find this very rude. Once someone is in line dont pass them. Its very simple.

 

[carol-lamb]

I find this very rude. Once someone is in line dont pass them. Its very simple.

You should have quoted my entire post. Your selected portion gives people the wrong impression of what I was trying to say.

 

[disneyjunkie]

In these types of situations the best thing to do is wait for the rest of the party then all get in line together. In all the trips I've made to WDW we have never considered not waiting for someone to tie a shoe, go to the restroom or get a drink of water - that's rude.

Well, you are assuming that all families walk right together. On my last four trips, I have went with my son and his fiance and my teenage daughter. This is the order we end up walking in especially when we start to get tired. My son is always ahead of us. Myself and my daughter are usually several steps behind him and his fiance most always brings up the rear. We're not being rude at all - but it does happen occasionally. My son probably wouldn't even notice if his girlfriend stopped to tie her shoe!! So by the time he got in a line, it would probably be 15 to 20 seconds for all of us to catch up together. If anyone has a problem with that, then they need to learn how to relax a little more while on vacation. You need to have realistic expectations when going on a trip like this. Any type of amusement park lends itself to this type of behavior. In a perfect world maybe, but we all know we don't live in a perfect world - even Disney World isn't perfect - as much as we would like to believe it is.

Maybe the first person to the line should step to the side and make sure the whole party is together. At that point you should all enter as a group.


Another option would be for your son to walk back to where the rest of you are.

 

[darlak]

In these types of situations the best thing to do is wait for the rest of the party then all get in line together. In all the trips I've made to WDW we have never considered not waiting for someone to tie a shoe, go to the restroom or get a drink of water - that's rude.

Well, you are assuming that all families walk right together. On my last four trips, I have went with my son and his fiance and my teenage daughter. This is the order we end up walking in especially when we start to get tired. My son is always ahead of us. Myself and my daughter are usually several steps behind him and his fiance most always brings up the rear. We're not being rude at all - but it does happen occasionally. My son probably wouldn't even notice if his girlfriend stopped to tie her shoe!! So by the time he got in a line, it would probably be 15 to 20 seconds for all of us to catch up together. If anyone has a problem with that, then they need to learn how to relax a little more while on vacation. You need to have realistic expectations when going on a trip like this. Any type of amusement park lends itself to this type of behavior. In a perfect world maybe, but we all know we don't live in a perfect world - even Disney World isn't perfect - as much as we would like to believe it is.

I'll quote your entire post so that there's no confusion. Am I correct in my understanding that after the first person in your party of 4 gets in line, the other 3 members of your party just push ahead of other people in order to catch up with your son? If I understood that right, then yes, it is rude.

If it's really no big deal, then why doesn't your son just wait until the rest of your party catchs up before actually entering the line?

 

[BamaFan121s]

I don't have a problem letting a father who was parking the stoller and got behind get in front of us to meet his family just a few spots up.

I DO have a problem with a group of teenagers pushing past saying that they need to catch up with their friends 'up there,' which is what I see most. I have no problem loudly telling them they can wait in line like everyone else and if they really want to ride with their friends, then they can come back to meet them. And it never seems to fail I always encounter these groups in the boiler room of ToT.
I have found that many times you can tell what's about to happen before it does. The 'front' group always waves to the 'back' group, glances around quickly to see if anyone is noticing, then quickly motions for them to join. If this happens, I have found it is usually pretty effective to loudly ask, "You're not waving people waaay back there to come up here and get in line with you in front of everyone, are you?"

 

[darlak]

I don't have a problem letting a father who was parking the stoller and got behind get in front of us to meet his family just a few spots up.

I DO have a problem with a group of teenagers pushing past saying that they need to catch up with their friends 'up there,' which is what I see most. I have no problem loudly telling them they can wait in line like everyone else and if they really want to ride with their friends, then they can come back to meet them. And it never seems to fail I always encounter these groups in the boiler room of ToT.
I have found that many times you can tell what's about to happen before it does. The 'front' group always waves to the 'back' group, glances around quickly to see if anyone is noticing, then quickly motions for them to join. If this happens, I have found it is usually pretty effective to loudly ask, "You're not waving people waaay back there to come up here and get in line with you in front of everyone, are you?"

What is it about the ToT? Last April, a man who looked to be in his 30's knocked me to the ground pushing past me after we came out of the library. As I was getting up, my DD asked him if he was aware that he had knocked me down. He looked at me on the floor and just shrugged, then proceeded to wave his family of about 6 more people up. The first of his family members to come past me kicked me as I was still getting up off the floor. While I don't think he did it intentionally, he certainly didn't apologize either. What kind of man does that and why do there seem to be so many more of these people at WDW in the past few years? By the time I was on my feet, the entire group had pushed past several more people. All of this happened in mere seconds. Even at 48, I'm pretty spry!

My oldest child is 29 and my youngest is 13. Over the past 29 years, we've been to WDW many, many times. In those years, there have been times we had to leave a line a few times for various reasons. On those occasions , we left the line as a family and returned to it as a family. Not even one time, did one or more of us "hold" the place in line for any of the others. It never even crossed my mind to do so.

 

[kimberh]

What is it about the ToT? Last April, a man who looked to be in his 30's knocked me to the ground pushing past me after we came out of the library. As I was getting up, my DD asked him if he was aware that he had knocked me down. He looked at me on the floor and just shrugged, then proceeded to wave his family of about 6 more people up. The first of his family members to come past me kicked me as I was still getting up off the floor. While I don't think he did it intentionally, he certainly didn't apologize either. What kind of man does that and why do there seem to be so many more of these people at WDW in the past few years? By the time I was on my feet, the entire group had pushed past several more people. All of this happened in mere seconds. Even at 48, I'm pretty spry!

I have noticed this behavior also, We are living in a " Instant World" things are at a rush. That's a unhappy man, I would hate to be one of his family members, or worse, one of his children. His parents must not have raised him to have any manners. In the "old" days, he would have stopped and helped you up, even if he had not knocked you down.

 

[DisGirlAllie]

This should be interesting.

 

[darlak]

I have noticed this behavior also, We are living in a " Instant World" things are at a rush. That's a unhappy man, I would hate to be one of his family members, or worse, one of his children. His parents must not have raised him to have any manners. In the "old" days, he would have stopped and helped you up, even if he had not knocked you down.

I agree! I didn't mention that the man was well over 6 feet tall, while I am exactly 5 feet and 1/2 inch. I've wondered since then why I didn't say anything, because that's really not my nature. I guess I was stunned. Now if it had been one of my DD's he knocked down, we probably would have had a scene.

 

[disneyholic family]

What is it about the ToT? Last April, a man who looked to be in his 30's knocked me to the ground pushing past me after we came out of the library. As I was getting up, my DD asked him if he was aware that he had knocked me down. He looked at me on the floor and just shrugged, then proceeded to wave his family of about 6 more people up. The first of his family members to come past me kicked me as I was still getting up off the floor. While I don't think he did it intentionally, he certainly didn't apologize either. What kind of man does that and why do there seem to be so many more of these people at WDW in the past few years? By the time I was on my feet, the entire group had pushed past several more people. All of this happened in mere seconds. Even at 48, I'm pretty spry!

My oldest child is 29 and my youngest is 13. Over the past 29 years, we've been to WDW many, many times. In those years, there have been times we had to leave a line a few times for various reasons. On those occasions , we left the line as a family and returned to it as a family. Not even one time, did one or more of us "hold" the place in line for any of the others. It never even crossed my mind to do so.

oh my god - that is TERRIBLE.....i don't know what i would have done in that situation....that is outrageous.....
we've had the groups of teenagers plowing through...
i've seen situations like that handled in various ways by the CMs, sometimes well, sometimes not...