Line cutting and fast pass problems...

[disneyworldluvr349]

No exceptions for family members.

And why not? If a family member is holding a spot in line than they have been in line as long as you it shouldn't matter to you.

 

[Hannathy]

I’ll join your crew!



Excellent! We raised three children the same way. It’s not hard to do and it teaches the children to be responsible for their actions.

I shouldn’t have to remind anyone that the line starts at the end, but sometimes we have that burden thrust upon us. Resorting to violence to prevent or correct ill mannered behavior is not appropriate but ignoring such misbehavior just invites and encourages more misconduct.

Some people will challenge line cutters because Disney CM’s don’t.

No exceptions for family members.

I agree and when I said I don't move for cutters period I never said I threw punches! You don't need to You just need to not move. believe me 3 people can block a line quite well without resorting to violence!

 

[sdzman]

I dont agree with holding places in line. If you want to get on the ride get in line at the back and wait your turn. If that's to difficult , stay home.

 

[disneyworldluvr349]

I dont agree with holding places in line. If you want to get on the ride get in line at the back and wait your turn. If that's to difficult , stay home.

Now, now no need to get mean. People all over the place are complaining about the waits in the summer, do you really think that people are going to get out of line when they have been waiting some time now and there little on had an accident? I don't think so. One parent and child should be able to go to the restroom and come back and get in line. It should go the same way no matter how many people or how old they are. You are trying to say that you would get out of line after waiting in line for 30 minutes and wait again? I don't think so unless you are a saint of some sort.

 

[jerry557]

You can make excuses about it... but it comes down to simple manners... You could eat like a pig at dinner...but you dont. Why? Because it is rude. It just isn't socially acceptable.

Same thing with waiting in lines. Cutting in line is rude.... Its that simple.

 

[Hannathy]

Now, now no need to get mean. People all over the place are complaining about the waits in the summer, do you really think that people are going to get out of line when they have been waiting some time now and there little on had an accident? I don't think so. One parent and child should be able to go to the restroom and come back and get in line. It should go the same way no matter how many people or how old they are. You are trying to say that you would get out of line after waiting in line for 30 minutes and wait again? I don't think so unless you are a saint of some sort.

Well you better notify the Pope because that is the way we raised and are raising our kids. If you leave the line you either don't ride or you get in the line at the back. No exceptions.

 

[disneyworldluvr349]

Jerry:Still I ask you the same question I asked the other person...
Would you wait in line for a half hour only to get out and wait again ? Especially if one person could is off going going somewhere else?(Restroom, Stroller drop off, Fastpass??) It just doesn't seem like something anyone would do.


I wasn't raised to be rude either. Just to have common sense.

 

[sdzman]

Now, now no need to get mean. People all over the place are complaining about the waits in the summer, do you really think that people are going to get out of line when they have been waiting some time now and there little on had an accident? I don't think so. One parent and child should be able to go to the restroom and come back and get in line. It should go the same way no matter how many people or how old they are. You are trying to say that you would get out of line after waiting in line for 30 minutes and wait again? I don't think so unless you are a saint of some sort.

Yes if I had to leave the line I would never have the gall to cust back in, I would go to the end.

Where do we draw the line? So if my party can hold "it" but another party can't I should be penalized?

 

[disneyworldluvr349]

Yes if I had to leave the line I would never have the gall to cust back in, I would go to the end.

Where do we draw the line? So if my party can hold "it" but another party can't I should be penalized?

Even if someone from your party was waiting in line holding your place?

Why should they have to go all the way back with you and be "penalized"?

 

[Hannathy]

Even if someone from your party was waiting with you?

Why should they have to go all the way back with you and be "penalized"?

Because you left the line!!!! How is that hard to understand you leave the line you come back and get in the back again. On those same notes why should my group be penalized by having another person in front of use that wasn't there.
Penalties come from actions and in this case the action was leaving the line and the penalty is starting again. Don't leave the line now that's common sense.

 

[disneyworldluvr349]

Wow. Rude much?

Are you running to go get in line right this minute? Didn't think so, no need to get so heated. No matter what this thread has to say people will still cut in line and we will continue to let other family members go to the restroom if the need be and then come back in line . Jeesh.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Universal has the "Express Pass" which is either bought for an extra price with the ticket or comes free if you stay at one of their 3 hotels. Even Six Flags got in on it by offering special tours for an extra fee

I don't know about the timing on Busch Gardens, but both Universal and Six Flags introduced their versions AFTER Disney created FastPass.

I believe I said Family Member... Even still, you could easily do the same thing. I honestly can't picture a whole tour group cutting in line,they are wild but I don't think that a group that large can cut.

How do you define/determine who's a family member? And, as for the tour groups cutting in line? You've apparently never been in a line where that's happened. Many others have had actual experience with this exact problem.

 

[a Really Bad Egg]

I honestly can't picture a whole tour group cutting in line..

Can you picture 20 or 30 of them cutting in a line? If not, go to WDW any day in July to the most crowded lines and watch. They will do it...a few at a time.

 

[disneyworldluvr349]

Can you picture 20 or 30 of them cutting in a line? If not, go to WDW any day in July to the most crowded lines and watch. They will do it...a few at a time.

Wow, I guess holding a spot in line is alright if your group isn't an army .
I still say that with a valid reason spot holding is acceptable.

 

[a Really Bad Egg]

I still say that with a valid reason spot holding is acceptable.

I agree with this in principle, but who defines 'valid reason?' If my grandma wanted to sit on a bench while the line moved, I'd hope no one would complain. And if my toddler had an 'emergency' I would hope her mom could run her to the bathroom. (I no longer have a toddler or grandma....just using examples.)

What really irks people is the few people holding the space for the many who choose - for whatever reason - to not join the line until it's closer to ride time. And those (insert bleep) BTG t-shirt kids.

Honestly, I think there is a tour guide written on how to cut the lines, take over the restaurants, work the FP system, etc.

 

[jerry557]

Say 10 members in a group leave to go to the restroom and 15 minutes later they come back and expect a few hundred people, that have since gotten in line, to just let those 10 members that got out of line to pass through? I assure you that will not work. There are going to be more than a few people who is going to have a serious problem with that.

The "holding my place" thing is what nearly lead to a brawl in the Tea Party line that I witnessed. Some kid left the line and several minutes later came back and pushed through people to get back to her mother. Then someone yelled out trying to get the CM's attention, "She's cutting in line!" And this resulted in a verbal battle back and forth between the mother and the other woman.
I thought they were going to have to call security before the two get in a complete catfight.

It's July. It's hot. People don't like waiting in line. Most people get frustrated when in heavy crowds. Nerves are on edge and it doesnt take much for some people to blow up.

 

[darlak]

I am the mother of 4 children. We have been going to WDW since the oldest was a baby. We have left the line for one of them (or us, their parents) to go to the restroom on only a few occasions over a span of 29 years. We always returned to the end of the line. We always used the method of asking them if they needed to go before we got in line. Most of my children are now adults who now use the same method with their own children. They would never leave the line and then expect to be allowed to return because they understand that it would be cutting in line and is rude.

If we instill in our children that this is acceptable, then it is only reasonable to expect that they will grow into adults who will believe that they are still entitled to cut in line.

I have been at other places where there is a always a sign at the end of the line stating "If you leave this line for any reason, you will not be readmitted." I personally am hoping that Disney will begin using this type of line management. Some parents would complain, but few would actually stop going.

Edited to add: I do always allow parents with small children to come back through the line and I generally do it with a smile. However, I am almost always thinking about what a poor lesson these parents are teaching their children. So if you are a parent who does this and some middle aged redhead smiles at your adorable child as you're cutting back in line, it may well be me. I'm on vacation and I will overlook as much as I can. As long as you don't knock me or my DD13 down (which happened in April), we'll get along fine.

 

[sdzman]

You have to draw the line somewhere (no pun intended)

I have been waiting in line before and seen dozens of people meet up with their parties in line in front of me. This is wrong.

If you allow this for little Johnny wet pants and his mommy then others take advantage of it.

Accept the fact that when traveling with young children, you lose your convenience factor.

 

[BigGreen73]

I haven't really experience any cutting issues. At most maybe one or two are meeting up with family. But I wouldn't tolerate the 10+ meeting up with one person. Like someone else said earlier, I wouldn't move & good luck getting by me.

 

[Sleeping~Beauty]

People having fun instead of waiting=bad.
People running errands instead of waiting=good.
I don't get the justification.

You getting a fastpass or someone being on a ride makes NO difference, the result is still the same for all the people in line behind you.

Vicki, I have been agreeing with several of your posts. My DH is the fastpass runner, and we wait for him to get on a ride (unless it's a ride he's not going on).

It is linecutting to do so otherwise, and I wouldn't do that to other people. I don't get this entitlement that makes people think it's fine for them to do so.