Leverage: anyone considering SSR purchase:

[Divamomto3]

My 9 y/o is asthmatic with severe allergies. We know all about it (editted: and not laughing at anyone for having any illness). But, It would be truly shameful if we exploit him to get something we prefer. For us to state we need non-smoking for asthma would be assinine. However, others don't seem to mind using leverage.

EXPLOIT my son for having asthma??????????? I'm beyond words incensed by your comment. Obviously you have no grasp on the fact that your son has a serious illness that doesn't need to be made worse. I don't know what your son's triggers are, but my son's triggers are extreme amounts of dust and cigarette smoke. Why in the world would I want to go on "vacation" and have him sicker than normal....to please the DIS boards elite that only have tolerance for the people who will accept any almighty vacation unit that is thrown at them?

 

[Divamomto3]

I'm not making a judgement on what's important, but the issue is what is "medically required" accomodations. Maybe I've led a sheltered life, having grown up in Detroit. But in 40 some years, this medcial necessity to be isolated from the smell of stale smoke is confined to this board. And I have 3 asthamatics in the family. The gross smell of a room having been smoked in is unpleasant to be sure, but the cause of medical reactions? Again, I'm sure it's possible, but how did they all end up on this board?

I would suggest that over 99% of the non-smoking world does not refuse to go into establishments which allow smoking. We certainly try to minimize our exposure (go less frequently, non-smoking section, etc.), but we still move freely in the environment, as does the smoke. We deal with the exposure. While it would be more convenient to not have to deal with it at all, most understand that they are not alone in the world.

I think much of our discussion regarding what DVC should do is quite juvenile. I would hazard a guess that not one of us, me included, is not involved in hotel management, particularly on the scale of WDW. For us to postulate what they should do is ridiculous.

I understand Disney wants happy customers enjoying magical vacations, down to the last guest. I'mjust not willing to shoulder the cost of making them all happy, and will make the best of what I get. It's not going to ruin my vacation, like it apparently does for some.

I do agree that hotel rooms sitting empty is costing members money though. And I'm not willing to bear that cost.

"Walking into an establishment" that allows smoking is not the same as sleeping in a "home away from home" that has been smoked in over and over and over again for 7 nights (or in our case 11.)

 

[TCPluto]

EXPLOIT my son for having asthma??????????? I'm beyond words incensed by your comment. God help your son...obviously you have no grasp on the fact that your son has a serious illness that doesn't need to be made worse. I don't know what your son's triggers are, but my son's triggers are extreme amounts of dust and cigarette smoke. Why in the world would I want to go on "vacation" and have him sicker than normal....to please the DIS boards elite that only have tolerance for the people who will accept any almighty vacation unit that is thrown at them?

I'm a non-smoker myself, and dislike the smell of a room that has been smoked in. but we're not talking about cigarette smoke, are we? We're not allowing the affected person to be in the room, in the smoke, right? It's just the nasty smell of the room we are talking about.

Other than the nasty smell coming from the previously smoked tobacco products, does this odor have the same medical effects on an asthmatic? I wouldn't think so, but I admit I'm not a doctor.

 

[tjkraz]

so which is it, if its this I guess the sytem hasnt been pleasing all dvc members for 13+ years.

Regardless of the fine print, the fact remains that all requests have always been requests. Someone booking at the 11 month window five years ago had no more certainty regarding their room than someone booking today.

Im not really sure of your connection at dvc but it must be pretty good to make generalizations that conclude who is and who isnt in the minority regarding certain issues.

I never drew any conclusions...I simply stated opinions. Disagree if you wish. I really don't care.

I really dont care about 100% occupancy and what the rules on requests are now. Thisis Disney and I expect them to be on the very top when customer service is involved, period.

Make it work, this is absloutley ridiculous.

Then by all means continue posting on an Internet message board. That seems to be a wonderful route to affecting change.

The system is what it is, and anonymous rants on the DISBoards certainly aren't going to change anything. Continue berating others' for their opinions if you wish. In the end they are all totally irrelevant.

 

[Divamomto3]

I'm a non-smoker myself, and dislike the smell of a room that has been smoked in. but we're not talking about cigarette smoke, are we? We're not allowing the affected person to be in the room, in the smoke, right? It's just the nasty smell of the room we are talking about.

Other than the nasty smell coming from the previously smoked tobacco products, does this odor have the same medical effects on an asthmatic? I wouldn't think so, but I admit I'm not a doctor.

I don't believe it's just a "smell." It's not just a smell. The actual smoke permeates all of the carpets, furniture, etc. Cigarette smoke is an irritant to the respiratory system. I am a nurse in a pulmonary ICU for 17 years and the mother of an asthmatic. To equate cigarette smoke as the same nuisance as looking at the dumpster at the Wilderness Lodge or not having a tub (although I think you should have one if you want one) is ignorant. I don't like the "smell" of someone cooking sausage and beans next door either, but I wouldn't move my room because of it. And it wouldn't cause my son to have to possibly go to an ER in Kissimmee instead of the Magic Kingdom.

The bottom line is this: I request non smoking for medical reasons. It says "guaranteed" nonsmoking on my confirmation. I have never not gotten it anywhere. I don't expect this to really be a problem. I believe that this board sometimes causes us to become hysterical over things that we don't really need to worry about. I would never have contemplated what the view from my window was before coming here. However, I just didn't appreciate the notion that I exploit my child's medical condition to get a room that "smells" better for me.
Smokers have the right to smoke and I have the right not to have to breathe it in. Smoke away...when I'm done with my lunch break, I'll go back to work where I'm taking care of 2 people who smoked all their lives. They're currently sedated and hooked up to ventilators.

 

[tjkraz]

I believe that this board sometimes causes us to become hysterical over things that we don't really need to worry about.

Probably the most profound statement in the entire thread.

Of course that's just my humble opinion.

 

[ColoradoBelle1]

It is possible that the disboard population is statistically comparable, tho on a smaller scale, to the DVC owner population of 87,000 and perhaps even to the nation at large. (What exactly IS a nation at large anyway??? )

TCPluto's suggestion that 99% of the nonsmoking world doesn't refuse going into smoking establishments is ABSURD. How then could you possibly explain why there has been a worldwide trend to ban smoking in public establishments? Do you think it possible that airlines, cruseships , hospitals, schools, government offices, restaurants, bars...and even ITALY for goodness sakes has banned all smoking. Would this have happened if 99% on nonsmokers really frequented smoking establishments? Or did this ban on smoking result from a 'few dissidents' who created prioblems for the masses?
Frankly, do you really think the zero tolerance policies would have passed if the bean counters didn't KNOW that it saved money in the long run?

The statement that allowing guaranteed smoking/non( and even tub studio rooms )at point of reservations would result in higher costs and empty rooms is NOT SUPPORTABLE by fact. Yet people who seem angry that others would like to see medical/special needs room requests guaranteed at time of booking consistently make this statement. I repeat...it is NOT supported by fact. Think of it this way: if I decide against going to Disney or staying at my DVC because I can't get a guaranteed nonsmoking ressie...then there is more room for YOU to get a room!!!! You would be rewarded for being less picky...and I think you should be rewarded. Do you really believe that if all the hundreds of thousands of rooms around DIsney were sold out...that if I decided against taking a handicapped room that there wouldn't be someone right behind me who would? And who is to say, in the event of a room breakdown...that the room out of service would be a nonsmoking room...isn't it just as likely , no MORE likely that the room would be a smoking room (proven smoking hazzards which is why my insurance rates are lower than my neighbor who smokes) So in response to the very compelling reason that changing the reservation system might cause costs to rise, I feel confident that any increase in costs would be more than offset by the savings in maintneance on smoking rooms and in lower insurance costs.

As to the question of rudeness: to state an opinion or preference in a respectful manner isn't rude. To state that because your children don't seem effected by second hand smoke that other parents are lying if they believe their children are adversely effected...that is worse than rude, it is ignorant. No one here should have to justify their opinion on whether or not Disney should consider a change in their current reservation system. No one here should have to worry that their personal opinion will be the subject of ridicule. But if ones arguments in support of that opinion are threaded with ridicule and contempt of a different opinion....that is when communication breaks down and discussion becomes an energy drain.

For those of you concerned about paying higher costs for 'empty' rooms...if smoking buildings and nonsmoking buiildings were assessed separately according to their actual maintenance costm insurance costs and occupancy rate losses...which do you think would be higher? Call DIsney and ask them...I bet they know.

I seriously doubt that anyone signing a contract at DVC was ever told that they might get a room without a tub. The layouts provided by DIsney show all studio units as having a bathtub. I ask again, how many people here who don't really care if their unit has a tub or not, feel the same way about the same unit not having a shower. I think most people would complain if they didn't have a shower because it is true that more people in this country take showers than baths.
Yep, it is quite true that renting a 1 bedroom or larger would guarantee a tub...and Deb, if you could possibly lend me a few points, I'd try to overcome my low self worth feelings that as a single person...I don't deserve the luxury of a 1 bedroom It is an option for sure, but really, it has little to do with the expectation that since my Disney kit with layouts show all the studios as having a bathtub that I have every right to expect one in my studio unit. Can I make do with a shower? Yes. Can I make do without a toilet? Yes. The question is , in a 5 star resort, should I have to? NO.

And again, if I refuse to rent the last remaining room at Walt Disney World because it is a handicapped room without a tub....that just means that there is one room left for YOU. So be happy that I am 'picky'.

Someone posted that in ten years, the question of smoking timeshares will be moot (or is that mute?). I think that person is right...in fact, I think it will happen in less than 10 years...because nonsmoking units will cost less money to maintain and insure.

As for my tub, I am perfectly content if Disney supplies me with an inflatable kiddie pool as long as it comes with a rubber Donald Ducky. I'm sorry if my pool runneth over and floods out the room downstairs...so I guess I better request that my room is on the ground floor too.

A poster who isn't picky stated that he is bothered by the 'arrogance' of those who feel that asking for anything that they don't care about personally.
Is it arrogance or fear, and if it is fear...fear of what? I just can't figure out why anyone would care if I felt that Disney should guarantee SOME room requests. I certainly don't care if you write to Disney and ask that they NEVER change their current policy because you LIKE it fine the way it is.
Discussion is good. Discussion and brainstorming shouldn't feel threatening. It creates positive energy and it creates the possibility for change. Change is most often good.
Many of the posters who said they were now concerned about their DVC membership and the fact that they might not get needed requests honored....I don't think that any of them were bothered by the original intent of this thread. I think they were bothered by the fact that they were harassed for being PICKY. And I think they should write Disney...along with your letter that Disney keep their current res system intact and my letter that asks them to consider a change....to say that they would like to feel that their medical requests will be guaranteed and alternatives offered should they arrive late and get the very last room in all of Disney World . (I think they should get to stay in Walt's apartment!!!!)

Can't we all agree that we have certain rights as Disney DVC owners, that among those rights are life, liberty and the pursuit of change for the better?
THis country was founded on a very small grassroots campaign to tell the emperor that every man (alas not every woman) had a right to make choices and to be accountable for those choices. Your choice may be different than mine, but as long as you are willing to be accountable for your choices, I believe you should have them....I'm glad there are some here who aren't picky because that means there are more nonsmoking rooms left FOR ME!!!!
I watched Forest Gump tonight. Do you all know that the little boy (Forest and Jenny's son) was played by HaleyJoel Osmond????? I will close with a Gumpism: and that's all I am going to say about that (at least on this thread)

 

[Muushka]

Snip....The system is what it is, and anonymous rants on the DISBoards certainly aren't going to change anything. Continue berating others' for their opinions if you wish. In the end they are all totally irrelevant.

I do not agree with this statement. I believe that some great changes at DVC/WDW have come out of some of these anonymous rants.

And as I stated on another thread, I, for one, will not refuse a HA room or a smoking room (provided they properly cleaned it). At the same time I am not going to question anyone's reasons for refusing these rooms. There are certain rooms at VWL which I would refuse. Hopefully someone who had strong dislike for HA/smoking rooms would be willing to give in on not having a certain location/view.

We all have things that are important to us in what would be considered a good room. If we all gave in a little on what is not important to us, the CMs would not have to keep adding to that "naughty list".

 

[NMW]

I think the questions proposed are really good questions.

People have decided not to buy because of these things.
People do decide to not stay on Disney property because of these things.
I delayed my puchase for over 2 years due to the smoking/non smoking thing, and then was finally told that due to medical reason they would grant the non-smoking (yet I still failed to get it put in my contract, since I bought used).
Disney has lost my business due to the smoking/non smoking thing (mostly in California so far).
This is a DVC problem AND it is a Disney owned hotel problem.
The technology is available, it is not difficult nor is it expensive to know the specifics of a room when making the reservation.

If it was not o.k. to ask questions, just because they were answered somewhere in all the paperwork and documentation, then there would be no need to ask questions at all.

- Eileen

From what I understand all resorts in Disneyland are non-smoking. As it is with like the entire state of California! You can't smoke in restaurants, bars, hotel rooms, etc.

 

[crisi]

There is a lot of things DVC sales people don't tell us. And somethings they do tell us with varying accuracy. Every hotel I've ever stayed in, if I've asked for a rollaway, one arrives, sometimes for a small additional fee. DVC doesn't. If I were making assumptions about DVC, I'd assume they'd bring in a rollaway. They don't. Nobody bothers to mention that there is one room at VWL with no balcony and several at BCV with small closets. If your first DVC stay was a corner room at BWVs, you'd be really disappointed to see the majority of rooms. No one tells you that the hardwood floors in the Grand Villas at OKW can make the room below them noisy. They aren't going to disclaim everything, and I do wonder....with resale prices so high, if you wouldn't have bought knowing this, what are you still doing owning now that you know. We are not trapped in these contracts.

And I think TCPluto's point is similar to how I feel on this topic. It isn't that I think anyone feels HC people are inferior. But there existance is fine - as long as it doesn't inconvience us.....which seems to me to be awfully shallow and self centered. Our HC room experience was a reminder to us of how fortunate we are that no one is in a wheelchair and requires that room - I watch people with their HC kids at Disney and I find the even the thought overwhelming. All of the "issues" with HC rooms for small children can be addressed with minor inconvience by a small amount of parenting - removing burners, grabbing a few extra towels for the bathroom floor. Compared to the amount of parenting TCPluto needs to do with his/her daughter, it seems petty to complain that you need to remove the stove knobs or wipe up the bathroom floor or need to use a warddrobe instead of a closet, or need to put on makeup out of the bathroom sink instead of having a counter. Some people get a HA room and reflect on how fortunate they are, others reflect on how much more perfect life could be without the room.

 

[kathleena]

I'm a non-smoker myself, and dislike the smell of a room that has been smoked in. but we're not talking about cigarette smoke, are we? We're not allowing the affected person to be in the room, in the smoke, right? It's just the nasty smell of the room we are talking about.

Other than the nasty smell coming from the previously smoked tobacco products, does this odor have the same medical effects on an asthmatic? I wouldn't think so, but I admit I'm not a doctor.

Only because you have asked, I'm quoting some information from the ACAAI website. As an asthmatic with allergies, my triggers are dust, smoke, fragrances and dogs (not cats, just dogs and usually just the ones that smell). Smell is a huge part of my trigger mechanism. The smell of the smoke alone is enough to trigger a reaction and cause me to start coughing and have restricted breathing, not to mention sinusitis attacks for the allergies.

It's important to note that not all asthmatics have the same triggers, nor do they have the same level of reactions.

I have edited out some stuff here, but didn't edit anything in......

"If you have asthma, you may experience wheezing, shortness of breath, a feeling of tightness in your chest or a persistent cough, especially late at night or early in the morning. These breathing problems are the result of conditions in the airways of your lungs:

An inflamed and swollen airway lining, producing thick mucus that may clog the airways.
Airway muscle spasm that constricts and narrows the airways.
Sensitivity to common allergens like pollen, dust mites, cockroaches, molds, animal danders.
Irritation of the airways by asthma triggers such as tobacco smoke, air pollution, the common cold, sinus infections, and cold air.
Exercise.

When asthma gets worse, inflamed airways become increasingly constricted, making it difficult to breathe.

Often the most effective and fastest way to bring asthma under control is to reduce your exposure to whatever is triggering the asthma. Avoidance and environmental control should be the first consideration in an overall treatment plan"

Asthmatics can have sudden onset reactions from a trigger, or can have a build up from lighter, but consistent exposure to triggers. So when I ask for a non-smoking room for medical reasons, I am practicing safe guidelines for my medical condition to control the risk of exposure and reduce that consistent exposure. I am trying to avoid one of my known triggers. I can't completely escape my exposure to irritants - I can only try to control it. It is also why I carefully scout out where the Illuminations smoke will go and don't stand on that side of the lake, why I cover my nose and run if I meet up with a smoker in the parks, why I do the same if I get behind someone with fragrance on, why I can no longer go to things like indoor concerts and plays for risk of being near someone who has a 3' perfume radiance, why I cover my nose and run through perfume areas in stores and I could go on and on. I live with it daily and do whatever I can to avoid it.

 

[snowbunny]

Not that anyone will care, in the midst of the flame war, but reading the boards during the past week has cemented a decision in my mind not to continue to pursue purchase of a small DVC contract. It would have been only a toe in the water but still a significant investment for us.

My experience in a cash room, Disney or elsewhere, is that if a room reeks of smoke, is filthy, or is otherwise unaccepable to me as a place to spend my hard-earned dollars, I can call the front desk and be helped into an accomodation that better meets my needs. If not, I can always spend the night in the room and let my fingers do the walking.

Nor am I willing to purposely check into an aiport hotel the first night, pack up again in the a.m. and go over to WDW -- or leave in the middle of the night with my kids like Shan is talking about -- to better my chances of obtaining a quality room. It's ridiculous, this is a vacation?

These boards are a font of information. Thanks and best wishes.

 

[Divamomto3]

Only because you have asked, I'm quoting some information from the ACAAI website. As an asthmatic with allergies, my triggers are dust, smoke, fragrances and dogs (not cats, just dogs and usually just the ones that smell). Smell is a huge part of my trigger mechanism. The smell of the smoke alone is enough to trigger a reaction and cause me to start coughing and have restricted breathing, not to mention sinusitis attacks for the allergies.

It's important to note that not all asthmatics have the same triggers, nor do they have the same level of reactions.

I have edited out some stuff here, but didn't edit anything in......

"If you have asthma, you may experience wheezing, shortness of breath, a feeling of tightness in your chest or a persistent cough, especially late at night or early in the morning. These breathing problems are the result of conditions in the airways of your lungs:

An inflamed and swollen airway lining, producing thick mucus that may clog the airways.
Airway muscle spasm that constricts and narrows the airways.
Sensitivity to common allergens like pollen, dust mites, cockroaches, molds, animal danders.
Irritation of the airways by asthma triggers such as tobacco smoke, air pollution, the common cold, sinus infections, and cold air.
Exercise.

When asthma gets worse, inflamed airways become increasingly constricted, making it difficult to breathe.

Often the most effective and fastest way to bring asthma under control is to reduce your exposure to whatever is triggering the asthma. Avoidance and environmental control should be the first consideration in an overall treatment plan"

Asthmatics can have sudden onset reactions from a trigger, or can have a build up from lighter, but consistent exposure to triggers. So when I ask for a non-smoking room for medical reasons, I am practicing safe guidelines for my medical condition to control the risk of exposure and reduce that consistent exposure. I am trying to avoid one of my known triggers. I can't completely escape my exposure to irritants - I can only try to control it. It is also why I carefully scout out where the Illuminations smoke will go and don't stand on that side of the lake, why I cover my nose and run if I meet up with a smoker in the parks, why I do the same if I get behind someone with fragrance on, why I can no longer go to things like indoor concerts and plays for risk of being near someone who has a 3' perfume radiance, why I cover my nose and run through perfume areas in stores and I could go on and on. I live with it daily and do whatever I can to avoid it.

Thank you Kathleena! You said it a heck of a lot better than I did. I was too angry to type straight!

 

[lenshanem]

A doctors note is no guarantee.

We have friends who wanted our DCL cabin on a cruise we canceled, because it was H/A (larger, with a bigger bathroom). To say this couple was a bit on the large size is a huge understatement. Morbid obesity is more accurate. They were going to have a relative who is a doctor write a note for a medical condition. We of course refused, as they were clearly skirting the rules,but more importantly, the ethics of the matter. More importantly, they would have been taking a room from someone who really needed it.

No, the doctors note is no guarantee that it's still not the case of someone not liking the smell of a room having been smoked in, and using the doctors note to get their way.

Can't we just make lying illegal???

My goodness! Are you really this rude and ignorant? It is all I can do to contain myself. I'm trying to be fair in my comments back to you, but over and over throughout this thread you insult. Some people are not worth the stress of arguing with. You won't ever get it so I'm moving on. This is becoming so redundant. I don't need to be continually called a lier because I want my daughter to feel comfortable on her vacation and not struggling to breath. I would think as a mother you would understand wanting that, but obviously not. Even a doctor's note isn't good enough for you! Instead you try to turn this all around about the tub issue. (And it is also extremely insulting to say I'm not understanding of anyone's special needs simply because I would like a tub on my vacation. Really! You don't have a clue who I am.) I wish you the best.

 

[Divamomto3]

I'm a non-smoker myself, and dislike the smell of a room that has been smoked in. but we're not talking about cigarette smoke, are we? We're not allowing the affected person to be in the room, in the smoke, right? It's just the nasty smell of the room we are talking about.

Other than the nasty smell coming from the previously smoked tobacco products, does this odor have the same medical effects on an asthmatic? I wouldn't think so, but I admit I'm not a doctor.

Yes, I can tell.

 

[sjdisneywedding]

My goodness! Are you really this rude and ignorant? It is all I can do to contain myself. I'm trying to be fair in my comments back to you, but over and over throughout this thread you insult. Some people are not worth the stress of arguing with. You won't ever get it so I'm moving on. This is becoming so redundant. I don't need to be continually called a lier because I want my daughter to feel comfortable on her vacation and not struggling to breath. I would think as a mother you would understand wanting that, but obviously not. Even a doctor's note isn't good enough for you! Instead you try to turn this all around about the tub issue. (And it is also extremely insulting to say I'm not understanding of anyone's special needs simply because I would like a tub on my vacation. Really! You don't have a clue who I am.) I wish you the best.

dont let these few insensitive misinformed people get you upset. I do not think they represent the dvc community as a whole(I hope not anyway)

I dont even really have an issue with getting smoking or HA rooms but that doenst mean I havent done my part. I am not going to say what I did or what others should do because apparently that is not allowed on the boards, but it doesnt mean I cant do my part.

It makes me laugh when people give their opinion on the boards which are telling others they shouldnt be giving their opinions. Its absolutely mind boggling.

What really blows me away in regard to this thread is that everyone is saying "this is the way it is deal with it" but obvioulsy from a few posts I read this in NOT the way it always has been. So maybe just maybe, DVC made a mistake when they made this switch where requests where granted at the time of booking. Maybe its time to get back to that is some way shape or form.

 

[sjdisneywedding]

Regardless of the fine print, the fact remains that all requests have always been requests. Someone booking at the 11 month window five years ago had no more certainty regarding their room than someone booking today.

well which is it, did they get requests met based on when they booked or didnt they? I think that would have an impact on the certainty of requests at the 11 month mark no?

Then by all means continue posting on an Internet message board. That seems to be a wonderful route to affecting change. :

never said it was the all powerful tool resulting in automatic change. Its a start to bring up issues, problems, likes and dislikes. Its information for those who are involved in the situation. Better informed people make better decisions

The system is what it is, and anonymous rants on the DISBoards certainly aren't going to change anything. Continue berating others' for their opinions if you wish. In the end they are all totally irrelevant.

lol my goodness you crack me up. If all else fails try to make the other look bad, right? I am berating others opinions?!!? I am simply asking why OTHERS feel the need to berate certain dvc'ers opinions on this matter. hahahaha thats great, hahahahah

I love hearing all opinions on the matter, seems though you like to try to dismiss whatever opinions dont fall in line with your thinking

just my opinion though

 

[Chuck S]

..... So maybe just maybe, DVC made a mistake when they made this switch where requests where granted at the time of booking. Maybe its time to get back to that is some way shape or form....

Requests were never "granted" at time of booking, requests were supposedly honored by the room assigner based upon when the original reservation was made...if there was a room available that met that request...there is a difference.

Either way, requests were always requests there were no guarantees...only a greater chance that those requests would be met. However, during that time, there were as many complaints and threads on these boards (and obviously also made to Disney) about wanting into a room earlier that they allowed the room ready policy to take effect.

 

[NMW]

A doctors note is no guarantee.


No, the doctors note is no gurantee that it's still not the case of someone not liking the smell of a room having been smoked in, and using the doctors noteto get their way.

Can't we just make lying illegal???

I find your comments about people lying about their children having asthma very offensive. Asthma is something our family has lived with for a long time and to just dismiss my child's health problem because it is not something you can "see" by looking at him is wrong. Are you saying if you saw our family at check in with a note from either my 6 year old son's pediatrician or asthma/allergist doctor you would assume we were LYING just so our room would not smell? What would it take to convince you? ALL of his medical records? Perhaps you would need to see all of his medication? Or would you think that was a lie too? I know, how about riding in the ambulance with us next time he has an attack, his breathing treatments fail, and he can't breathe? I guess you would think that was a lie too.

I almost did not submit this. Then, I thought of my little boy and I just became so hurt and upset by your comments again.

BTW, nonsmoking is the only request I ever make on our reservations. I thought about making NHA a request after reading these threads, but decided not to bother. I really would not matter all that much to us. This will be our first DVC trip and if they can not accomodate us on the nonsmoking, we would not check in. Also, I do not think asthma is limited to the Dis board. My children have many, many friends with asthma. When my 6 year old (who is in kindergarten) has gym he goes to the nurse 1/2 hour before gym to use his inhaler. THREE other kids from his class also go to use inhalers. I don't know why so many kids today have asthma. Like you, I am not a doctor.

 

[sjdisneywedding]

Requests were never "granted" at time of booking, requests were supposedly honored by the room assigner based upon when the original reservation was made...if there was a room available that met that request...there is a difference.

Either way, requests were always requests there were no guarantees...only a greater chance that those requests would be met. However, during that time, there were as many complaints and threads on these boards (and obviously also made to Disney) about wanting into a room earlier that they allowed the room ready policy to take effect.

I see the differnce but again, the system,technically, was different. At least that way there was a WAY, some WAY of influencing what type of room you got. probably not the best system overall, but better than the crap shoot it is today

Im sure there were alot of posts complaining about not being able to check in when they wanted and waiting for the room to get ready. But as far as that goes, TOO BAD, that has nothing to do with health issues. I think overall it is far more important to be able to guarentee NS and NHA rooms than it is to check in early.