Let's Stop Stereotyping Evangelicals

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I hardly ever cut and paste stuff, but this article really struck a chord with me. I have had a hard time putting it into words, but as an evangelical Christian I have felt stereotyped from time to time. See what you think about this opinion article from The Washington Post...

Let's Stop Stereotyping Evangelicals

By Joseph Loconte and Michael Cromartie
Wednesday, November 8, 2006; A27



It was in 1976 -- the "year of the evangelical," according to Newsweek -- that conservative Christians burst upon the political landscape. Critics have been warning about the theocratic takeover of America ever since. Thus the plaintive cry of a Cabinet member in the Carter administration: "I am beginning to fear that we could have an Ayatollah Khomeini in this country, but that he will not have a beard . . . he will have a television program."

This election season produced similar lamentations -- Howard Dean's warning about Christian "extremism," Kevin Phillips's catalogue of fears in "American Theocracy" and brooding documentaries such as "Jesus Camp," to name a few. This theme is a gross caricature of the 100 million or more people who could be called evangelicals. But the real problem is that it denies the profoundly democratic ideals of Protestant Christianity, while ignoring evangelicalism's deepening social conscience.

Evangelicals led the grass-roots campaigns for religious liberty, the abolition of slavery and women's suffrage. Even the Moral Majority in its most belligerent form amounted to nothing more terrifying than churchgoers flocking peacefully to the polls on Election Day. The only people who want a biblical theocracy in America are completely outside the evangelical mainstream, their influence negligible.

So as Jerry Falwell and other ministers were jumping into politics, leaders such as Charles Colson -- former Nixon aide turned born-again Christian -- were charting another path. In 1976 Colson launched Prison Fellowship, a ministry to inmates, to address the soaring crime problem. Today it ranks as the largest prison ministry in the world, active in most U.S. prisons and in 112 countries. "Crime and violence frustrate every political answer," he has said, "because there can be no solution apart from character and creed." No organization has done more to bring redemption and hope to inmates and their families.

Evangelical megachurches, virtually unheard of 30 years ago, are now vital sources of social welfare in urban America. African American congregations such as the Potter's House in Dallas, founded by Bishop T.D. Jakes, can engage a volunteer army of 28,000 believers in ministries ranging from literacy to drug rehabilitation. Rick Warren, author of "The Purpose-Driven Life," has organized a vast network of churches to confront the issue of AIDS. "Because of their longevity and trust in the community," Warren has said, "churches can actually do a better job long-term than either governments or" nongovernmental organizations in tackling the pandemic.

Whether or not that's true, these evangelicals -- Bible-believing and socially conservative -- are redefining social justice. They're mindful of the material conditions that breed poverty and despair, but they emphasize spiritual rebirth. Though willing to partner with government agencies, they prefer to work at the grass roots, one family at a time.

Meanwhile, churches and faith-based organizations are growing enormously in their international outreach. Groups such as World Vision are often the first responders to natural disasters. The Association of Evangelical Relief and Development Organizations, founded in 1978, now boasts 47 member groups in dozens of countries. As anyone familiar with these organizations knows, they help people regardless of creed, race or sexual orientation -- another democratic (and evangelical) ideal.

It is surely no thirst for theocracy but rather a love for their neighbor that sends American evangelicals into harm's way: into refugee camps in Sudan; into AIDS clinics in Somalia, South Africa and Uganda; into brothels to help women forced into sexual slavery; and into prisons and courts to advocate for the victims of political and religious repression.

Indeed, probably no other religious community in the United States is more connected to the poverty and suffering of people in Africa, the Middle East and Southeast Asia. Walter Russell Mead of the Council on Foreign Relations argues that evangelicals offer moral ballast to American foreign policy. "[E]vangelicals who began by opposing Sudanese violence and slave raids against Christians in southern Sudan," he wrote recently in Foreign Affairs, "have gone on to broaden the coalition working to protect Muslims in Darfur."

Of course it's true that a handful of Christian figures reinforce the worst stereotypes of the movement. Their loopy and triumphalist claims are seized upon by lazy journalists and the direct-mail operatives of political opponents.

Yet it is dishonest to disparage the massive civic and democratic contribution of evangelicals by invoking the excesses of a tiny few. As we recall from the Gospels, even Jesus had a few disciples who, after encountering some critics, wanted to call down fire from heaven to dispose of them. Jesus disabused them of that impulse. The overwhelming majority of evangelicals have dispensed with it as well. Maybe it's time more of their critics did the same.

Joseph Loconte is a distinguished visiting professor at Pepperdine University's School of Public Policy. Michael Cromartie is vice chair of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom. They co-direct the Evangelicals and Civic Life program at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.
 
I try not to stereotype evangelicals..I'm quite religious myself..I don't care what you believe,or how you practice your religion..I only get upset when people try to enshrine religious beliefs as laws.
 
JennyMominRI said:
I try not to sterioytpe evangelicals..I'm quite religious myself..I don't care what you believe,or how you practice your religion..I only get upset when people try to enshrine religious beliefs as laws.
Agreed.
 
Sorry , I disagree with this sentence.
The only people who want a biblical theocracy in America are completely outside the evangelical mainstream, their influence negligible.

I would hardly call James Dobson's, John Hagee's, Pat Robertson's or Jerry Falwell's influence "negligible." And don't forget Ted Haggard, he had a 14,000 member congregation and was president of a 3 million member Evangelical association. Jim and Tammy Baker collected millions of dollars for their fake amusement park, and Jimmy Swaggart had a large following before he "sinned."

No, the influence of these super churches should not be discounted, they account for a significant, though minority, portion of evangelicals. And they are the proverbial squeaky wheels.
 

Nobody is is making things up to damage these people. If they don't like the reputation, then they need to look within and get the folks damaging the reputation to stop.
 
cardaway said:
Nobody is is making things up to damage these people. If they don't like the reputation, then they they need to look within and get the folks damaging the reputation to stop.

Absolutely!
 
JennyMominRI said:
I try not to stereotype evangelicals..I'm quite religious myself..I don't care what you believe,or how you practice your religion..I only get upset when people try to enshrine religious beliefs as laws.

When self proclaimed evangelicals at work stop telling me I am going to hell because I am Jewish...I will try to stop stereotyping them....gee...it only happened twice this week...
 
Meezers said:
When self proclaimed evangelicals at work stop telling me I am going to hell because I am Jewish...I will try to stop stereotyping them....gee...it only happened twice this week...
Heh..I'm a former CHristian wo has converted to Judaism. According to some that gets me my own special level of Hell
 
Meezers said:
When self proclaimed evangelicals at work stop telling me I am going to hell because I am Jewish...I will try to stop stereotyping them....gee...it only happened twice this week...


I am so sorry that has happened to you. Hearing that makes me very sad. I know bunches of evangelicals who have a completely different view of things than the folks you run into.
 
There is much truth and insight in this sentence from the article:

"It is surely no thirst for theocracy but rather a love for their neighbor that sends American evangelicals into harm's way: into refugee camps in Sudan; into AIDS clinics in Somalia, South Africa and Uganda; into brothels to help women forced into sexual slavery; and into prisons and courts to advocate for the victims of political and religious repression."



And this one:

"Evangelicals led the grass-roots campaigns for religious liberty, the abolition of slavery and women's suffrage."
 
cardaway said:
Nobody is is making things up to damage these people. If they don't like the reputation, then they they need to look within and get the folks damaging the reputation to stop.
I agree, to a point, but every group has members that are extreme in their viewpoints. Christians are no different. Unfortunately, the extremists also tend to be the loudest and get the most attention.

Take that nut job that protests at military funerals saying that God hates gay people (I know litterally no Christians who agree with this). The press loves to cover him, but the press almost never mentions that at every one of these funerals there is ALWAYS a group of Christians there as well working to keep the protestors away from the funeral and the family of the deceased.

Christians have a responsibilty to speak up when we are misrespresented, but I know many people (I don't include you in this crowd, Mike) who never examine the popular stereotypes to see if they really respresent the majority of folks the stereotypes claim to portray. Its a 50/50 thing, both sides have their share of responsibilty for the problem.
 
Meezers said:
When self proclaimed evangelicals at work stop telling me I am going to hell because I am Jewish...I will try to stop stereotyping them....gee...it only happened twice this week...
I too am so sorry for the actions of these people. Please do not judge us all by their actions. As a Christian, please accept my appology for those who have hurt you and please know that their views do not accurately reflect the teachings of our faith.
 
Zippa D Doodah said:
And this one:

"Evangelicals led the grass-roots campaigns for religious liberty, the abolition of slavery and women's suffrage."

They also led the way to prohibition and are diligently working to regulate what goes on in other peoples bedrooms, deny rights to homosexuals, boost religion in public schools, ban teaching science in favor of creationism...

No, the entire group should not be painted with a broad brush...but you can't claim (as a group) to be responsible for all the postive things (helping with AIDS inAfrica, feeding the hungry, etc) and deny ANY responsibility for the negative aspects of the group.
 
I also agree with Chuck's comment about the only paragraph that deals with the cause of the issue, and it does so by denying the facts.

The largest and most powerful groups are flat out looking for a theocracy. Look no further than the mission posted on their websites or newsletters. Even better, watch their TV shows, yeah that's right, TV shows. They want us to ignore the fact that many of these groups are powerful enough to have their own TV show?

A very slanted article IMO. Nobody denies they the good things, it just all the things that offset them.
 
Chuck S said:
They also led the way to prohibition and are diligently working to regulate what goes on in other peoples bedrooms, deny rights to homosexuals, boost religion in public schools, ban teaching science in favor of creationism...

No, the entire group should not be painted with a broad brush...but you can't claim (as a group) to be responsible for all the postive things (helping with AIDS inAfrica, feeding the hungry, etc) and deny ANY responsibility for the negative aspects of the group.


Hey, I'm just thrilled that some sane scholarly folks made some positive associations about evangelicals. I believe there are lots of good things about us. We sure aren't perfect... God is still working on us. :sunny:
Not to isolate in all the points you raised, but many groups of evangelicals do NOT favor banning the teaching of science in favor of creationism. My denomination (United Methodist) does not.
 
cardaway said:
I also agree with Chuck's comment about the only paragraph that deals with the cause of the issue, and it does so by denying the facts.

The largest and most powerful groups are flat out looking for a theocracy. Look no further than the mission posted on their websites or newsletters. Even better, watch their TV shows, yeah that's right, TV shows. They want us to ignore the fact that many of these groups are powerful enough to have their own TV show?

A very slanted article IMO. Nobody denies they the good things, it just all the things that offset them.


Theocracy is not part of the typical evangelical agenda. Are there some folks and groups that would go for it? No doubt. But not the vast majority of us. We shrug off the loudmouths and nutballs and go ahead faithfully loving God and neighbor.
 
WDWHound said:
I agree, to a point, but every group has members that are extreme in their viewpoints. Christians are no different. Unfortunately, the extremists also tend to be the loudest and get the most attention.

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Its a 50/50 thing, both sides have their share of responsibilty for the problem.

Great to see you again Don. I hope you and Mandy are doing well. :)

I'm glad you brought up the ratio angle because IMO it's the clear root cause of the issue at hand. The ratio of extreme members in other groups simply isn't any where near the ratio found in Evangelicals. I have a feeling the people within the larger group don't see it that way, but I think I'm correct in saying that this article wasn't written to respond to what the group thinks of itself.
 
WDWHound said:
Christians have a responsibilty to speak up when we are misrespresented, but I know many people (I don't include you in this crowd, Mike) who never examine the popular stereotypes to see if they really respresent the majority of folks the stereotypes claim to portray. Its a 50/50 thing, both sides have their share of responsibilty for the problem.

So true! I know many evangelicals right here on the DIS that don't fit the popular stereotypes!

BTW, who's Mike?
 
cardaway said:
The largest and most powerful groups are flat out looking for a theocracy. Look no further than the mission posted on their websites or newsletters. Even better, watch their TV shows, yeah that's right, TV shows. They want us to ignore the fact that many of these groups are powerful enough to have their own TV show?
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Could you provide a few examples of these web sites and TV shows. I am not doubting you, but I really want to know which groups you are discussing. When I think of mainstream Christianity, I think of The Methodist, Presbyterian, Baptists, Espispacialians nd other denominations. Here are some links to their web sites.
WWW.UMC.ORG
http://www.pcusa.org/
http://www.abc-usa.org/
http://www.episcopalchurch.org/

These sights closely resemble the message that most Christians I know beleive in and try to live. I don't see the kind of thing you are talking about on these sites, but I don't doubt that other groups have other sites. I would like to see those sites, so that I can understand what other groups of Christians who don't share my views are saying.
 
Chuck S said:
They also led the way to prohibition and are diligently working to regulate what goes on in other peoples bedrooms, deny rights to homosexuals, boost religion in public schools, ban teaching science in favor of creationism...

No, the entire group should not be painted with a broad brush...but you can't claim (as a group) to be responsible for all the postive things (helping with AIDS inAfrica, feeding the hungry, etc) and deny ANY responsibility for the negative aspects of the group.

Bingo. I couldn't help but to notice yet another attempt to discount the power of the people trying to do what you just posted. If they didn't have any power, that article would not need to exist. Everybody realizes the good done, we just are concerned by other agendas of those in power.
 


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