Let's Make Disney World Great Again!

[DisneyKingpin]

If we, as a nation, are ok with pricing out the poor and the middle class, why are we outraged by discrimination against other groups? Is not making a service financially inaccessible to the poor and middle class no different than making a service physically inaccessible to the disabled? Either way, you literally can't go.

 

[Tonyz]

Build a wall around the American Adventure and have the Mexican pavilion pay for it!

 

[jeremywolf81]

Classism has always been the acceptable "-ism." As someone from a poor rural family that broke the cycle and is (mostly) middle class myself I'm very aware of it all around.

 

[Princess Jes]

Do we really have to continue beating this horse to death?

Some people can't afford things. That's life.
End of story.

 

[GAN]

Do we really have to continue beating this horse to death?

Some people can't afford things. That's life.
End of story.

....and Pete can't afford Bali. Again, that's life. I'd love to know the exact date when people started feeling like everything out there should be theirs. I use to visit WDW before it became an "affordable" vacation -I was lucky if I could go every 5-years. Sure, I didn't have much money at the time -so I had to accept my fate. I didn't complain to Disney that only the "rich" people got to go.

Now -if there was a way to reduce the cost to help make WDW more accessible to Jes ...that would be something!

 

[Princess Jes]

....and Pete can't afford Bali. Again, that's life. I'd love to know the exact date when people started feeling like everything out there should be theirs. I use to visit WDW before it became an "affordable" vacation -I was lucky if I could go every 5-years. Sure, I didn't have much money at the time -so I had to accept my fate. I didn't complain to Disney that only the "rich" people got to go.

Now -if there was a way to reduce the cost to help make WDW more accessible to Jes ...that would be something!

See, I can fly to Bali for $199 return and spend a few hundred bucks for a week's accom! Cheap as chips for me!

While I'd love it to be cheaper/more accessible for me (outside of it already being expensove in USD) I know that's just not the case (unless the USA goes into another recession and our $ strengthens significantly against the USD to the point of parity and above again, which would be bad for y'all)
It's expensive but I just save to go there. Plain and simple.

Please, can we move on from "Disney isn't cheap enough for the lower and middle class"?!

 

[OKW Lover]

Ummm, exactly when was it that Disney World became not great?

 

[Boski]

Ummm, exactly when was it that Disney World became not great?

When they changed to generic napkins instead of the special Disney ones. Duh.

 

[KingLlama]

Ummm, exactly when was it that Disney World became not great?

When they got rid of that hot cheese sauce at Casey's.

Disney=JOY ROBBERS

 

[loves to dive]

I was a single mother and so poor the only time we went out to eat, I shared a happy meal with my son. We went to WDW every other year and stayed on site in one of the MK resorts (to be fair they were the only resorts on property at the time, if value or moderate had been there we would have stayed there). I saved for two years, we went without, it was our choice and my son didn't die from the stigma of only being able to go every other year. Seriously, it's called saving money. By the way, I'd like to go to Bali too but it's out of reach for me too, I'm trying to figure out who I can complain to about that.

 

[GAN]

By the way, I'd like to go to Bali too but it's out of reach for me too, I'm trying to figure out who I can complain to about that.

You should probably start with this guy, Joko Widodo:

 

[OKW Lover]

By the way, I'd like to go to Bali too but it's out of reach for me too, I'm trying to figure out who I can complain to about that.

I know this was said jokingly but having been to Bali, Bora Bora and Tahiti, I'll just say its a very, very beautiful place. I'm fortunately at a place in life where I can take all the time I need (retired) and have the funds to do so. Not everybody is there right now, but at some point in your life you may be. When that happens, be sure to put this one near the top of your list.

 

[CaliTex]

The Entitlement Mentality once again rears its' spoiled and pointy head. We go every other year because that is what we are willing to do/ feel we can afford. But back when we were a young family, the cost of a Disney vacation (or any thing other than a "staycation") was out of the question. There were shoes to buy and roofs to replace...And yet we survived, and enjoyed a standard of living that is the envy of the world--even without being able to go to Disney.

The best way to make WDW great again is for folks to stop behaving like spoiled, entitled, rude, pushy guests when they do get to go there. Just sayin'


LOL @

Build a wall around the American Adventure and have the Mexican pavilion pay for it!

Maybe we should have the UN oversee Disney's board meetings, too.

 

[Halloweenqueen]

In my uber liberal point of view I think making admission price standard for everyone would cure the crowd problem. Let's say admission is $100 a day for MK and $90 for the other three. No more APs, Florida residents, multi-day tickets, international deals...even military. Crowd problem solved.

Only half joking.

 

[loves to dive]

I know this was said jokingly but having been to Bali, Bora Bora and Tahiti, I'll just say its a very, very beautiful place. I'm fortunately at a place in life where I can take all the time I need (retired) and have the funds to do so. Not everybody is there right now, but at some point in your life you may be. When that happens, be sure to put this one near the top of your list.

Only half jokingly, it's on my diving bucket list along with Tahiti. We've been to Palau, which is a diver's paradise and still plan on making it to Tahiti. We can afford it but my honey has his own computer consultant business so leaving his clients for at least 9 days is just not easy. Add to that we have a small spoiled dog who we can't board since she can't do day care with all the bigger dogs and stays at home all day with her daddy so has to have human interaction and finding someone trustworthy to house/pet sit in our house with all his servers, thus our bread and butter is next to impossible. Thus, WDW solo trips for me and the occasional trip to the keys for a quick dip for bubble blowing where we can rent a house that spoiled rotten can go to.

 

[BigAlsGal]

Oh good grief...


Think of how "great" Disney would be if they lowered it to $10 a day. Christmas time crowds all day every day. Yeah sounds awesome....

 

[Tonyz]

Think of how "great" Disney would be if they lowered it to $10 a day. Christmas time crowds all day every day. Yeah sounds awesome....

You can end the entire debate right here, because you're not going to get a more succinct, better explanation about the whole situation that this.

If raising prices is what Disney needs to do right now to take care of these insane crowds, then I support it 100%. And if you can't afford to go, you'll just to wait and save a little more. Disney World isn't healthcare, it shouldn't be a right. And honestly, I could do without the thousands of people who don't care about anything other than rushing to Space Mountain or Soarin'. (I'm a snob, I know)

 

[KingLlama]

Let's Make Tonyz a Snob Again

 

[andyman8]

I've been holding back on posting this because I'm sure I'll be flamed, but I've come to the point where I just can't anymore. Out of this whole debacle, what has really bothered me personally has nothing to do with Disney at all. It has to do with the tone and attitude coming from both sides. Many (certainly not all by any means) have approached this discourse with a "my way or the highway" attitude. In other words, the mentality of "I'm right and you're completely wrong" has been very prevalent and it seems to be coming from both sides. Look, you guys want to talk about entitlement, there is something everyone's entitled to: their opinion. While you may disagree with them, that doesn't mean you need to dismiss or undercut them. Some families may find these prices increases too much for their budgets, so they no longer see a trip to WDW as affordable, and they have every right to be upset, hurt, and frustrated by that, and likewise, some may have made significant cuts to be able to get enough money together for another trip to WDW. Everyone has a different perspective and each one is deserving of equal respect. The moderators should not have to be working this hard, in my opinion, to ensure the DIS is a friendly and respectful site. We, as posters, need to keep in mind that it is okay to agree to disagree and that just because I feel that I'm right doesn't make you wrong. This site is meant, from what I understand, for spirited discussion and debate, but when people refuse to accept (not agree with but just merely accept) others' views it takes away from all that can be gained from such a place. Unfortunately, that mentality is not just seen here it seems, and I think it is one of a number of reasons we are facing the political climate we are in this country.

 

[Boski]

While I agree (with the general tone and view) of your post @andyman8, this is the DIS boards where something like towel animals, or the lack of, can spiral into a raging war where someone calls another poster a bad parent.