Land Border Opening?

[NewYKRunner]

Hoping they take the 14 day quarantine away, even making it something like 3 day until negative test or whatever for those with 1 dose, but Im wondering what the case will be for kiddos not able to be vaccinated..if we are vaccinated butt he kids arent would the kids just need to quarantine at home for 14 days, or would the parents also have to abide by the same rule as their child regardless of vaccination status? Regardless I hope we get some sort of plan soon!

We've been discussing that a lot as well recently wondering what might happen. I'm hoping there will be changes to isolating children for 14 days. Let them still go out and about (masked and self-monitor, etc.) but not to schools/camps for example? We are supposed to see the updated version of our Emerging Wisely plan today. Hopefully they don't aim for some ridiculous requirements. Dr. Tam said 75% partially and 20% fully vaccinated to open up the country and we're at 74% partially and 66% fully (Yellowknife region of Northwest Territories). Time for some changes...

 

[suse66]

We've been discussing that a lot as well recently wondering what might happen. I'm hoping there will be changes to isolating children for 14 days. Let them still go out and about (masked and self-monitor, etc.) but not to schools/camps for example? We are supposed to see the updated version of our Emerging Wisely plan today. Hopefully they don't aim for some ridiculous requirements. Dr. Tam said 75% partially and 20% fully vaccinated to open up the country and we're at 74% partially and 66% fully (Yellowknife region of Northwest Territories). Time for some changes...

Those are amazing rates!!

 

[NewYKRunner]

Those are amazing rates!!

Small population and a priority due to our remoteness and reliance on Alberta if things hit the fan. The concern especially being if Alberta was overwhelmed and we couldn't send people anywhere.

 

[Sue M]

Our Minister of Transportation said we know more in the coming weeks (not months). Now, that could be 25 weeks, but let's hope they mean something more like 6 weeks.

I am hoping we hear something by end of this month so I can book flights for Aug 1

 

[Susan2771]

I am hoping we hear something by end of this month so I can book flights for Aug 1

You and me both!!! The time is really ticking on getting my girls signed up for Dance the Magic for December

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

I was looking at new entry requirements to st.Maarten for example where they will accept vaccinated tourists without quarantine and they say kids under 18 are exempt too regardless if they are vaccinated as long as parents are and they are travelling together. I know it’s St Maarten and not Canada but something like that will probably happen in different countries as not all kids can be vaccinated at least not yet.
Canada I’m not sure anymore, last week the federal government got the recommendation from the federal advisory to scrap the hotel quarantine, and so far they only increased the fine if you want to skip it? It seems like Canada makes up own rules that are not necessarily backed by expert advice.
Either way I hope, like everyone else here that we get some clear plan soon. We should have it by now.

 

[suse66]

I am hoping we hear something by end of this month so I can book flights for Aug 1

I am hoping for the same thing! Looking to book flights for August 7th. Pixie dust for both of us!

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

This article is interesting.

Aviation groups want a "clear plan" for reopening air borders before June 21

https://news.paxeditions.com/news/a...a-deliver-clear-roadmap-reopening-air-borders
I think both countries will be on pins and needles with the lead up to June 21 to see IF Canada has a plan to move forward with travel. We have to get rid of these govt hotels. That is the kicker.

Provinces will do away with the quarantine once fully vaxxed. NS just announced fully vaxxed rotational workers do not need to isolate now when they arrive home.

It's coming.

 

[bcwife76]

This article is interesting.

Aviation groups want a "clear plan" for reopening air borders before June 21

https://news.paxeditions.com/news/a...a-deliver-clear-roadmap-reopening-air-borders
I think both countries will be on pins and needles with the lead up to June 21 to see IF Canada has a plan to move forward with travel. We have to get rid of these govt hotels. That is the kicker.

Provinces will do away with the quarantine once fully vaxxed. NS just announced fully vaxxed rotational workers do not need to isolate now when they arrive home.

It's coming.

And most provinces don't have quarantine restrictions of their own anyway.

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

This article is interesting.

Aviation groups want a "clear plan" for reopening air borders before June 21

https://news.paxeditions.com/news/a...a-deliver-clear-roadmap-reopening-air-borders
I think both countries will be on pins and needles with the lead up to June 21 to see IF Canada has a plan to move forward with travel. We have to get rid of these govt hotels. That is the kicker.

Provinces will do away with the quarantine once fully vaxxed. NS just announced fully vaxxed rotational workers do not need to isolate now when they arrive home.

It's coming.

We all want and deserve to have a clear plan of reopening. By now with the vaccine rollout as it is, this should be clearly outlined. Absolutely. Different governments could have done better job communicating throughout this pandemic, in Canada we try to be patient even though our patience is truly being tested at this point. A clear plan, a glimpse of hope rather than the constant “now is not the time to travel” would be nice when it comes to border reopening. This is where other countries have done better offering hope and some end date for different restrictions.
Airlines and the tourism sector needs advance notice to re-start. The general population needs to know when they might be able to visit family across the border and even (gasp!) take that vacation. What can we plan for? When? Even if the date is 2 months from now, tell us.
I’m afraid as a country we are waiting for covid to be gone and cases near zero and that likely won’t happen for a long time.
Fingers crossed that our PM actually listens to the science he has been saying he would follow.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

It would be great to know if the Montreal airport is still not ticketing people who are not doing the quaratine. Now that the fine was upped, I wonder if they will crackdown.

 

[damo]

We all want and deserve to have a clear plan of reopening. By now with the vaccine rollout as it is, this should be clearly outlined. Absolutely. Different governments could have done better job communicating throughout this pandemic, in Canada we try to be patient even though our patience is truly being tested at this point. A clear plan, a glimpse of hope rather than the constant “now is not the time to travel” would be nice when it comes to border reopening. This is where other countries have done better offering hope and some end date for different restrictions.
Airlines and the tourism sector needs advance notice to re-start. The general population needs to know when they might be able to visit family across the border and even (gasp!) take that vacation. What can we plan for? When? Even if the date is 2 months from now, tell us.
I’m afraid as a country we are waiting for covid to be gone and cases near zero and that likely won’t happen for a long time.
Fingers crossed that our PM actually listens to the science he has been saying he would follow.

I think that the problem with giving a date is that people will start to book things and then if that date falls through, people are very upset with the gov't. When you don't give a date, people are going to just hang off making plans.


And it isn't just our country that we are looking at for statistics. A variant could suddenly take hold in Florida ( just an example) and then rules would al have to change again.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

I'm all for opening once we hit the vaccination targets, which I do think will happen by fall. But why not give us an outline of what we can expect at that time? Fully vaxxed = no quarantine, but you get a take-home test to do on day 5, for example.

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

I think that the problem with giving a date is that people will start to book things and then if that date falls through, people are very upset with the gov't. When you don't give a date, people are going to just hang off making plans.


And it isn't just our country that we are looking at for statistics. A variant could suddenly take hold in Florida ( just an example) and then rules would al have to change again.

It doesn’t have to be a concrete date... and at least for the next year all plans we make are tentative until they actually happen.
Before vaccines were steadily rolling into Canada it was tricky to give a sort of “end date” on restrictions but by now, having roughly 60% of Canadians vaccinated with first dose, I believe a plan should be/could be laid out that includes an approximate timeline.
What I think we as a country need at this point is hope. I know variants are showing up in other places but none of them are walking back their restrictions now, we have the vaccines and we need to keep moving forward.
You bring up a very good point and I agree it’s been tricky. It is June 2021 though where we have the vaccines here and we have watched other countries reopen, patiently waiting our turn.
The government’s own advisory on the boarder reopening has advised them to follow the science and open having different rules for fully, partially and unvaccinated passengers. Anyway, they could have a phased approach like the provinces do, but something should be said at least by the end of this month.

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

I'm all for opening once we hit the vaccination targets, which I do think will happen by fall. But why not give us an outline of what we can expect at that time? Fully vaxxed = no quarantine, but you get a take-home test to do on day 5, for example.

I think that’s exactly what people are hoping for, some kind of a timeline if we hit certain vaccination targets.
Also, side note but I know there are people out there that don’t plan to get the vaccine unless they won’t be able to freely travel without it. Having a plan laid out in advance could entice those sitting on the fence to get vaccinated which in turn will help with everything else.

 

[Minniemoo15]

NB has given concrete dates (June 7, July 1 and Aug 2). These phases are very easy to understand and motivating in that we really can have our lives back soon. They have been very clear though that there are vaccination targets attached to these days and if we miss the target, we are not moving to the next phase. It’s actually brilliant because everyone has shifted from talking about our daily covid count to our % vaccinated. Nobody cares about the 9 cases we reported yesterday... it’s all about how many NBers now have their first dose and close are we to moving to the next phase ?

For example - by June 7 we need 75% vaccinated with first dose. We only had 67.5% as of yesterday. It’s unlikely we will meet the target Monday (looking more like Thursday) but there has been a HUGE push to get our numbers up this weekend. Lots of extra walk ins, drive thru clinics, media and social media encouraging people to get their first dose. People I know who were on the fence or were going to wait a while are now
going ASAP to try and meet our first goal. It feels like a big collective push.

I think the federal government could do something similar. NBs plan is clear and easy to understand but still tied to realistic measures.
People here mostly are feeling very motivated, encouraged, and hopeful with the plan.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

@Minniemoo15 NS is doing 2-4 weeks intervals and we were all like "we want dates!". So the Premier said okay. Two weeks from June 1 is June 14, so that is target #1, if that falls through then June 28 is target #2, etc.

I think we will move into Phase 2 on time (June 14) and then Phase 3 will be July 14, Phase 4 will be August 14 and finally Phase 5 hopefully by the time school starts (Sept 7).

 

[Sue M]

It doesn’t have to be a concrete date... and at least for the next year all plans we make are tentative until they actually happen.
Before vaccines were steadily rolling into Canada it was tricky to give a sort of “end date” on restrictions but by now, having roughly 60% of Canadians vaccinated with first dose, I believe a plan should be/could be laid out that includes an approximate timeline.
What I think we as a country need at this point is hope. I know variants are showing up in other places but none of them are walking back their restrictions now, we have the vaccines and we need to keep moving forward.
You bring up a very good point and I agree it’s been tricky. It is June 2021 though where we have the vaccines here and we have watched other countries reopen, patiently waiting our turn.
The government’s own advisory on the boarder reopening has advised them to follow the science and open having different rules for fully, partially and unvaccinated passengers. Anyway, they could have a phased approach like the provinces do, but something should be said at least by the end of this month.

My feelings too. We need a 3 part plan for vaccinated, partly vaccinated and non vaccinated. This is a safe approach and allow people to get on with their lives. And if I’m not wrong, I think the vaccines work on the variants?
In BC I think we’re up to 70% for 1st shot. DH going in today for 2nd jab. 1 daughter & I going next week for our 2nd yay!

 

[Sue M]

I think that the problem with giving a date is that people will start to book things and then if that date falls through, people are very upset with the gov't. When you don't give a date, people are going to just hang off making plans.


And it isn't just our country that we are looking at for statistics. A variant could suddenly take hold in Florida ( just an example) and then rules would al have to change again.

But we’re being told the vaccine is working for variants too, so that shouldn’t be an issue
I feel it’s time to open up Now with the guidelines we’ve been talking about for the 3 stages of vaccinated or non, and partial vaccinated.
I think maybe open after the July 1 & 4th holidays.

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

My feelings too. We need a 3 part plan for vaccinated, partly vaccinated and non vaccinated. This is a safe approach and allow people to get on with their lives. And if I’m not wrong, I think the vaccines work on the variants?
In BC I think we’re up to 70% for 1st shot. DH going in today for 2nd jab. 1 daughter & I going next week for our 2nd yay!

We are not yet anywhere close to 2nd shots in Ontario (unless you are 70 or 80+) but really hope they accelerate this soon.
I’m 39 this year so not sure when my turn here will be, my appt is for Sep 18 right now... DH and I signed up for the Windsor /Detroit tunnel vaccine if it comes to fruition in July for us that would be fantastic.