Kind of long but fun to read...

First, we survived being born to mothers who may have smoked and/or drank while they were pregnant.

It was common practice back then. Almost everyone smoked and it was not only social acceptable it was fashionable. I don't think it hurt any of us in the slightest.

All those doctors out to scare us with their made up stories. John F. Kennedy and his wife were huge smokers during all of Jackie's pregnancy, and look at the fine children our great President had. OK they had a still birth and another die 2 days later to complications caused by smoking... but the ones that lived turned out great!

The helmet thing is, well, pretty silly and useless in my opinion. What do you think that helmet will do if they get hit by a car. That helmet would crack like an egg. Even if it's just falling off a bike, the force of ones weight would destroy it. Even worse is how dorky one looks wearing that tear drop shaped joke.

Another ploy by snake oil salesman to get us to buy helmets for our kids. As you have pointed out, the force of their weight would destroy the helmet when falling off their bike. They would have to be traveling at several hundred miles an hour for this to be true, a speed I frequently achieve myself and I assume others do as well. Plus, they make you look silly.
 
All those doctors out to scare us with their made up stories. John F. Kennedy and his wife were huge smokers during all of Jackie's pregnancy, and look at the fine children our great President had. OK they had a still birth and another die 2 days later to complications caused by smoking... but the ones that lived turned out great!



Another ploy by snake oil salesman to get us to buy helmets for our kids. As you have pointed out, the force of their weight would destroy the helmet when falling off their bike. They would have to be traveling at several hundred miles an hour for this to be true, a speed I frequently achieve myself and I assume others do as well. Plus, they make you look silly.

I'll give you the second one, but the first one needs to be based on fact not speculation. There are many miscarriages and problem births from families that the evil smoke is nowhere near. Is it possible, sure...but it could also easily be coincidental. If you have access to the Kennedy's medical records then I will make an attempt to agree with you.
 
All those doctors out to scare us with their made up stories. John F. Kennedy and his wife were huge smokers during all of Jackie's pregnancy, and look at the fine children our great President had. OK they had a still birth and another die 2 days later to complications caused by smoking... but the ones that lived turned out great!



Another ploy by snake oil salesman to get us to buy helmets for our kids. As you have pointed out, the force of their weight would destroy the helmet when falling off their bike. They would have to be traveling at several hundred miles an hour for this to be true, a speed I frequently achieve myself and I assume others do as well. Plus, they make you look silly.

If smoking them made women miscarry, our population would not be what it is today. My aunt had 6 miscarriages and never picked up a cigarette in her life. My husband's cousin had 4 and she never smoked either.
 
We also didn't have the number of weirdos and creeps and criminals that we do now, solely based on exponential growth of society.

I'm sorry to say, there were just as many! Just nowadays we have 24-7 media always hungering for the next news story and those creeps and weirdos make up a key part of their narrative which keeps you coming back to their media source. The demonising of other parents who have had tragedy befall them has made other parents fear how the media could turn on them for their decisions, combined with the absolute fear of losing a child shoved in their faces almost every day- no wonder parents are wrapping their children up in cotton wool.

I don't think nostalgia really helps anyone, it was always better then. However this generation is the first to be brought up 'in captivity' and I am interested to see the impact.
 
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I agree with bits and pieces, but not a lot of this.

Like all the "safety" stuff: Just because you got away with doing something unsafe doesn't make it safe. :confused3

Exactly. And I'm sure those 10 families that lost their infants in crib accidents would feel differently as well.

There's a reason they don't sell lawn darts anymore.
 
I enjoyed the post.....Thanks, I enjoyed the memories (and yes, I have ridden in the back of a truck without a helmet on).
 
I'm sorry to say, there were just as many! Just nowadays we have 24-7 media always hungering for the next news story and those creeps and weirdos make up a key part of their narrative which keeps you coming back to their media source. The demonising of other parents who have had tragedy befall them has made other parents fear how the media could turn on them for their decisions, combined with the absolute fear of losing a child shoved in their faces almost every day- no wonder parents are wrapping their children up in cotton wool.
I have to disagree! Many of those who did horrible things to others for whatever reason were either locked away in jail, locked up for research or treatment... not picked up and released due to a technicality or over crowding. There are more creeps and lowlifes because there are more people. Period. Sadly, we just don't have enough space to keep all of the real criminals anymore.

OP's list was fine and fun until the mentioning of who was pushing us inside at the bottom. I'm all for looking back for fun, but some things just spoil it.
 
If babies sleep on their stomach, they have an increased risk of dying of SIDS.

When 2 of my kids were babies, the thinking was put them on their stomachs because if they are on their backs they could choke to death on vomit they may have spit up. It seems that there is no way that is 100% safe. The fact is most babies whether on their stomachs or on their backs survived.
 
Jeez, does everything have to be analyzed & debated?
I thought it was meant to be lighthearted & amusing :confused3

Come on people - it was an email -- a funny email. Don't dissect it.
 
I am a new(er) mom and I have to say that I do not agree with the parent hysteria about every single little thing these days. Like everything in life, you have to strike a healthy balance, and the hysteria isn't doing that at all.

However, we do know better about a lot of things now, and I think this email is a little bit irresponsible because it encourages the "if it was ok for me/ my parents, it's ok for my child too" attitude, which isn't cool IMO. I do know of some moms who continue to smoke during pregnancy, let their kids roam the streets, etc. and say things like, "I did it and I didn't die." I don't think that's great reasoning. (Like when Britney Spears let her kid sit in her lap and "drive" her car, because her dad did it with her when she was a kid.)

I do like to look back at how things were from time to time and get a little chuckle out of it though, and that's how I'm personally choosing to take this email. I think that the point of kids playing outside was great-- and I will definitely encourage that with my kids!
 
I was born in 1971... My children were born in '96 and '97.

TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED THE 1930s, '40s, '50s, '60s and '70s!!

First, we survived being born to mothers who may have smoked and/or drank
while they were pregnant.

My mom gave up smoking and drinking while she was pregnant.

They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes.

I take aspirin and eat blue cheese dressing, I always have tuna in a can (does it come any other way?), and I've never been tested for diabetes. I don't understand this one.

It's true that I didn't give aspirin to the kids when they were young but that's because Reye's Syndrome is no fun at all, and Tylenol is a perfectly acceptable substitute.

Then, after that trauma, we were put to sleep on our tummies in baby cribs covered with bright colored lead-based paints.

My mother was terrified of lead in paint. She knew all about it from volunteering to teach slum children when she was a young woman. Hungry babies chew on things. Lead paint tastes sweet. They start eating it. Permanent brain damage is nothing to joke about and it was always more of a problem in poor communities than wealthy ones. My mother got an unpainted crib for me.

As for tummy-sleeping, my babies preferred their tummies and I decided it wasn't worth the hassle fighting with them. I suspect many parents still go with what the baby wants, regardless of what their ped says.

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, locks on doors or cabinets, and, when we rode our bikes, we had baseball caps,not helmets, on our heads.

MY mother put a lock on the medicine cabinet, to keep me safe. She thought childproof lids were a great idea.

As infants and children, we would ride in cars with no car seats, no booster seats, no seat belts, no air bags, bald tires and sometimes no brakes..

My mother ALWAYS made me wear a seat belt and sit in the back seat. She never took chances with the car, and always kept it in good working order. If she could have done more she would have.

As for my husband, HIS dad was a mechanic. You can bet they never drove a car with bald tires!

Riding in the back of a pick- up truck on a warm day was always a special treat.

This is the one and only thing I did, that my children haven't done. I got to do it once on a visit to Mississippi, and my mother didn't know, or she wouldn't have let me. However, up North in my husband's home town, I still see children doing it, even today. So it's not disappeared.

We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle.

So do my kids. Don't yours?

We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle, and no one actually died from this.

My kids do this, too.

We ate cupcakes, white bread, real butter, and bacon. We drank Kool-Aid made with real white sugar. And we weren't overweight.
WHY?


Because we were always outside playing...that's why!


We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.
No one was able to reach us all day.
--And, we were OKAY.

Actually, while this could describe MY children's lives fairly accurately, it doesn't describe mine at all.

In the seventies, I was living in a brownstone apartment building in downtown Trenton, New Jersey.

When we moved in my mother loaded me into my stroller and went for a walk around the neighbourhood. She was delighted to find a corner store close by and stopped in to chat with the owner. She barely noticed the youths loitering outside. The next day she opened the paper to find out that the shopkeeper had been murdered, just minutes after she walked away with me. Those youths had been waiting for her to leave. My mom didn't go out for any more walks after that.

I grew up inside the walls of our apartment building. I had so little activity that my thigh muscles didn't develop properly and I got a pronounced swayback. I wasn't the only one either - lots of inner-city kids kept that cute little baby belly for a lot longer than they should, due to their lack of play space. At least we were on the 5th floor, so I didn't have to sleep in a bathtub for fear of stray bullets coming through the walls!

The seventies were SO much fun! :rolleyes:


We would spend hours building
our go-carts out of scraps
and then ride them down the hill,
only to find out we forgot the brakes.. After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem..

My kids got to do this. They also got to go sledding and skating. Obviously, I didn't.

We did not have Play Stations, Nintendos and X-boxes. There were
no video games, no 150 channels on cable, no video movies or DVDs,
no surround-sound or CDs, no cell phones, no personal computers, no Internet and no chat rooms.

Oh man, I would have LOVED having these things! I felt so isolated and lonely as a kid. I can't imagine how awesome it would have been to have friends only a push of a button away.

Right now I can hear my son talking to his buddies over the Xbox, while my daughter is going back and forth between a pile of library books and the computer, researching her latest obsession - Ancient Egypt. I love technology!


WE HAD FRIENDS
and we went outside and found them!

No I didn't, I wasn't allowed. I did get to take a bus to school for a couple weeks, but then a kid was shot to death at my bus stop, so that was the end of that. My mother decided it was safer to drive me to school.


We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth,and there were no lawsuits from those accidents.

I didn't do any of these things, and my children have done them all (well, except break bones - so far they've managed not to do that). We've never filed a lawsuit in our lives.


We would get spankings with wooden spoons, switches, belts, ping-pong paddles, or just a bare hand, and no one would call child services to report abuse.

I remember being 10 and deciding - after my mother had spanked me with a belt - that I would not spank my own children. Why? Because I remember all too clearly the contempt I felt for my mother at that moment and I never wanted my children to feel the same way about me.

My kids seem to have survived my disciplinary neglect well enough.


We ate worms, and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.

Ew! No, I didn't!

My son did once eat a potentially poison mushroom. Getting charcoal into a little boy sure isn't fun! He also ate a sow beetle. His sister ate a lot of sand and dirt.


We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays, made up games with sticks and tennis balls, and -although we were told it would happen- we did not put out very many eyes.

Kids still get BB guns in the US. It's not such a popular toy up here in Canada. My kids certainly made up games with sticks and tennis balls, though.


We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just walked in and talked to them.

Another thing I didn't do, which my kids did - and still do!


Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment.


Imagine that!!

Nobody here's into Little League. A lot of kids play hockey though, and there's leagues and tryouts. It's very competitive.


The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law!

Some parents always bailed out their kids, even back in the fifties. Especially rich white kids - they never had consequences for their actions!


These generations have produced some of the best risk-takers,
problem solvers, and inventors ever.


The past 50 to 85 years have seen an explosion of innovation and new ideas...


We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned how to deal with it all.

My kids have freedom, failure and responsibility. Not to mention, I work with my church's youth. So I'm rather offended by the idea that these bright, caring young people are somehow not going to be risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors, in their own time.


If YOU are one of those born
between 1925-1970, CONGRATULATIONS!

Yeah, thanks. Me, I'm just grateful I can give my kids a freer and healthier childhood than I had.
 
"These generations have produced some of the best risk-takers,
problem solvers, and inventors ever.
The past 50 to 85 years have seen an explosion of innovation and new ideas...
"

If everything is planned out for recent, current, and future generations, and if they're protected from all potential hazards, who will take risks? Who will problem-solve? How can you solve a problem if you don't know one exists; or even if you know one exists, if you don't have the tools to know how to fix it what can you do?

Hear-Hear!!! Good Point!!! I dont agree with most of it either but your point does say it all !!
 
Come on people - it was an email -- a funny email. Don't dissect it.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Having grown up in the inner city, it always gets to me when people assume all kids in previous decades lived in perfect suburban paradises.

All kids didn't, and we've come a long way, baby! ;)
 
If smoking them made women miscarry, our population would not be what it is today. My aunt had 6 miscarriages and never picked up a cigarette in her life. My husband's cousin had 4 and she never smoked either.

I'm amazed that so many people actually believe smoking has no effect on pregnancy. This isn't 1950. It is 2011. Does smoking cause a miscarriage, no. Does smoking increase your odds of miscarriage as well as hundreds of serious complications, you bet. Smokers have a 50% increased chance of having a baby with mental retardation. 10% will have Infant Respiratory Distress Syndrome (which is what killed Kennedy's kid). Death from SIDS increases 4 times. There is a significant increase in miscarriage, premature birth, still born death, and low birth weight.
 
I'm amazed that so many people actually believe smoking has no effect on pregnancy. This isn't 1950. It is 2011. Does smoking cause a miscarriage, no. Does smoking increase your odds of miscarriage as well as hundreds of serious complications, you bet. Smokers have a 50% increased chance of having a baby with mental retardation. 10% will have Infant Respiratory Distress Syndrome (which is what killed Kennedy's kid). Death from SIDS increases 4 times. There is a significant increase in miscarriage, premature birth, still born death, and low birth weight.

This was not the intent of my post. I was replying to one that implied that was the cause of Jackie Kennedy's miscarriages. These are the causes of Hyaline Membrane Disease (RDS):

* premature birth
* Caucasian or male babies
* previous birth of baby with RDS
* cesarean delivery
* cold stress (a condition that suppresses surfactant production)
* perinatal infection
* multiple births (multiple birth babies are often premature)
* infants of diabetic mothers (too much insulin in a baby's system due to maternal diabetes can delay surfactant production)
* babies with patent ductus arteriosus

I did not state that smoking has no effect on pregnancy. It is a fact that lots of mothers smoked and that their babies were ok. That does not mean that I endorse it because I don't.
 
My point is, why be nostalgic about unsafe activities just because they happened in our childhood? One might as well be nostalgic about the good old days before we had the polio vaccine (admittedly, some DIS posters *are* nostalgic about that). I'm not talking about everything in this e-mail, just the few that are unnecessarily unsafe.



Kind of reminds me of something my dad said once. "Just look at the population explosion. Proves more accidents happen in the bedroom than anywhere else.":thumbsup2
 
My point is, why be nostalgic about unsafe activities just because they happened in our childhood? One might as well be nostalgic about the good old days before we had the polio vaccine (admittedly, some DIS posters *are* nostalgic about that). I'm not talking about everything in this e-mail, just the few that are unnecessarily unsafe.



Kind of reminds me of something my dad said once. "Just look at the population explosion. Proves more accidents happen in the bedroom than anywhere else.":thumbsup2

OMG:lmao::lmao: Thanks for the laugh!!!:lmao::lmao:
 
SIDS

They really don't know why it happens.

http://www.sids-network.org/facts.htm

What Causes SIDS?

While there are still no adequate medical explanations for SIDS deaths, current theories include: (1) stress in a normal baby, caused by infection or other factors; (2) a birth defect; (3) failure to develop; and/or (4) a critical period when all babies are especially vulnerable, such as a time of rapid growth.
Many new studies have been launched to learn how and why SIDS occurs. Scientists are exploring the development and function of the nervous system, the brain, the heart, breathing and sleep patterns, body chemical balances, autopsy findings, and environmental factors. It is likely that SIDS, like many other medical disorders, will eventually have more than one explanation.
 

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