KIdani vs Jambo in sales?

[Chili327]

Why do they list them separately to buy direct, are they not the same thing? Is there any reason for it?

 

[intamin]

Why do they list them separately to buy direct, are they not the same thing? Is there any reason for it?

Most people like myself own at Kidani if you have an AKV contract. Theres just a lot more Kidani points than Jambo. Functionally there is no difference but when you go to book, except it automatically checks Kidani but not Jambo on the booking screen. Again, not that you can’t book Jambo at 11 months but technically your deeded property is at Kidani. Obviously if your points are actually deeded at Jambo then Jambo will be the one checked on the booking page.

Why Disney bothers to separate them? That I’m unsure of. Maybe just to make it seem like they have more properties you can book at instead of lumping the two together.

 

[Chili327]

Yea seems weird, I mean, if different buildings are going to be separate why not Poly or VGF.? (maybe its a bus stop thing. lol)

 

[sndral]

Yea seems weird, I mean, if different buildings are going to be separate why not Poly or VGF.? (maybe its a bus stop thing. lol)

They started selling Jambo before they sold Kidani - so I guess they just deeded them differently. I wonder if they deeded SSR tree houses differently when they added them to SSR - that would have been the same sales era.
Maybe it has something to do w/ Jambo’s villas being in the same building as the hotel rooms v. Kidani being all DVC, VGF & Poly both converted entire buildings to DVC whereas Jambo just converted the 5th & 6th floors. Or maybe because Jambo is the only DVC that offers a club option?

 

[Tatebeck]

My best guess is that it's because they are further away from each other compared to the different Poly and VGF buildings? And most people ride the bus between them since there is nothing on the way to see/do.

I do like that my AKV contract happens to be Jambo so it is preselected when I go to look for value or club level rooms though. Didn't really think about it before buying but I think I prefer that mine is Jambo

 

[intamin]

My best guess is that it's because they are further away from each other compared to the different Poly and VGF buildings? And most people ride the bus between them since there is nothing on the way to see/do.

I do like that my AKV contract happens to be Jambo so it is preselected when I go to look for value or club level rooms though. Didn't really think about it before buying but I think I prefer that mine is Jambo

I’m jealous yours is Jambo would save me 2 clicks to deselect Kidani and then select Jambo. Guess I need to sell my AKV and roll the dice again for Jambo

 

[atthebeachclub]

I’m jealous yours is Jambo would save me 2 clicks to deselect Kidani and then select Jambo. Guess I need to sell my AKV and roll the dice again for Jambo

I have considered buying 25 Jambo points direct for this.

 

[sndral]

I’m jealous yours is Jambo would save me 2 clicks to deselect Kidani and then select Jambo. Guess I need to sell my AKV and roll the dice again for Jambo

Yeah, both of my AKV resale contracts are at Kidani & we always stay at Jambo. As long as I can book Jambo at 11 months I guess I’ll stick w/ my grandfathered resale AKV Kidani points rather than trying to replace them w/ restricted resale Jambo points.

I have considered buying 25 Jambo points direct for this.

Now there’s a thought - that would ‘even up’ my AKV points too, right now they’re trailing my VGF points by exactly 25 points.

 

[disneylandtour]

Why do they list them separately to buy direct, are they not the same thing? Is there any reason for it?

In terms of use, they are the same. I believe that Disney will continue to allow resale to book at any of the 14 existing resorts (obviously minus VDH, Cabins, Riviera, etc.). In my view, the only way that the difference between Kidani and Jambo would matter is if Disney in the future restricted resale use to a home resort. In this case, I'd much rather have Jambo due to value and club rooms. I have just one AKV banner in my signature, but most of my points are at Jambo.

 

[jcolvin5]

It is true that Jambo House was built first, but it was a hotel only. Kidani Village was the first of the two to be a DVC resort. Jambo House was adapted to include DVC rooms.

 

[intamin]

Now there’s a thought - that would ‘even up’ my AKV points too, right now they’re trailing my VGF points by exactly 25 points.

Yeahhh but do you want those dirty Kidani points cluttering up your booking page? If you forgot to deselect Kidani while going for club/value those milliseconds could mean the difference between getting the room and not. Better to just sell the whole thing and buy AKV direct without incentives

 

[geargrinder]

I have two AKL contracts. First was resale. Second was direct. Both are Jambo.

 

[TinkAgainU]

Why do they list them separately to buy direct, are they not the same thing? Is there any reason for it?

I asked my Guide this and he said they are combined, I specifically said if they ever limit us to one or the other would that apply and he said no. I noticed he told me that verbally but did not put it in writing. I bought Kidani resale (the Agent at www.fidelityrealestate.com said he did not know which it was during my offer, but reasonably sure he flat out lied about other points so who knows). If I went Direct, I'd simply say I wanted Jambo. But not sure it's worth much fuss, I'm honestly happy staying at either - I like food options at both, and the value/concierge floors are not on my must-have list, whereas in Summer I'd want Kidani's under-resort covered parking.

 

[jcolvin5]

I asked my Guide this and he said they are combined, I specifically said if they ever limit us to one or the other would that apply and he said no. I noticed he told me that verbally but did not put it in writing. I bought Kidani resale (the Agent at www.fidelityrealestate.com said he did not know which it was during my offer, but reasonably sure he flat out lied about other points so who knows). If I went Direct, I'd simply say I wanted Jambo. But not sure it's worth much fuss, I'm honestly happy staying at either - I like food options at both, and the value/concierge floors are not on my must-have list, whereas in Summer I'd want Kidani's under-resort covered parking.

That’s the great thing about owning there, you get both resorts which offer their own unique experiences. And I feel they have a different vibe to them. Similar, but still unique in their own way.

 

[Chili327]

I asked my Guide this and he said they are combined, I specifically said if they ever limit us to one or the other would that apply and he said no. I noticed he told me that verbally but did not put it in writing. I bought Kidani resale (the Agent at www.fidelityrealestate.com said he did not know which it was during my offer, but reasonably sure he flat out lied about other points so who knows). If I went Direct, I'd simply say I wanted Jambo. But not sure it's worth much fuss, I'm honestly happy staying at either - I like food options at both, and the value/concierge floors are not on my must-have list, whereas in Summer I'd want Kidani's under-resort covered parking.

Yea, it wouldn't matter what they did in the future, they can't change your contract, so it would only apply to new purchases, from that date on. We would be grandfathered in... I think.

 

[TinkAgainU]

Yea, it wouldn't matter what they did in the future, they can't change your contract, so it would only apply to new purchases, from that date on. We would be grandfathered in... I think.

I'm still skeptical about limits if our Deed still has one location on it, but I'm always aware of selling a contract and getting a replacement one - there are people who were caught "just" missing a Grandfathered term with Disney in the past and I'm hoping I'm holding a contract when that next happens. Kinda like the game musical chairs.

 

[Sandisw]

Yea seems weird, I mean, if different buildings are going to be separate why not Poly or VGF.? (maybe its a bus stop thing. lol)

Because both Jambo and Kidani have all room types, it’s different than VGF and PVB tower.

So, it is based on where one is deeded that determines why it’s different on the webpage.

With VGF, they don’t need to separate it because BPK is all resort studios and seeing that is enough to know which section you are booking.

With PVB tower, they decided to just add the word tower which is enough since the long houses are all studios.

 

[Sandisw]

Yea, it wouldn't matter what they did in the future, they can't change your contract, so it would only apply to new purchases, from that date on. We would be grandfathered in... I think.

They are part of the same condo association so they can’t have different rules.

Again, it’s just where you are deeded and nothing more. It is the same for SSR..some are deeded to treehouses and some of us are deeded into indivual builidngs.

 

[TinkAgainU]

They are part of the same condo association so they can’t have different rules.

Again, it’s just where you are deeded and nothing more. It is the same for SSR..some are deeded to treehouses and some of us are deeded into indivual builidngs.

That's encouraging, however, the documents state (paraphrasing here) DVC can add limitations which are to the benefit of the general ownership - which they absolutely did do during Covid by limiting banking/borrowing, for example. The fact Jambo and Kidani ARE two different entities on DVCs ADD-ON POINTS section of the website leads "me" to believe they have built that in to CYA for future actions they feel might be required. They are "asking/telling" direct Buyers to pick one or the other, they do not require you to pick a building to buy into at SSR.

 

[bakerworld]

Peculiarly, when we bought Kidani we couldn't stay there until after May the following year. That first August '08 to May '09 we could only stay at Saratoga. I never understand why when Jambo was already there.