Just to clarify for Elwood about what and why I posted the link I posted:
I posted the FBI files, which I linked to and read from the Freeper site Winter Soilder, the one the SBVT supports. I wanted to make sure I didn't link anything that could be considered the least bit slanted in Kerry's favor.
In the article that Kendra posted, that came from the site Vietnam Veterans Against Kerry, a site that's just a tiny bit slanted against Kerry
, the article states:
Numerous media outlets claim witnesses and FBI documents conclusively place Kerry at that November 1971 meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) in Kansas City.
I thought maybe someone would want to read the FBI files and see for themselves where it states that Kerry was at the meeting and knew about some sort of assination plot, as Kendra's article clearly states that "various media outlets" know this for a fact.
Believe me, the SBVT would love nothing more than to find that damning information in any file on Kerry or ANY other member of the V V AW. The only points of interest out of the 21,000+ pages posted on the SBVT site about the FBI files are these, that are posted on the site :
August 27, 2004 -- Found in the VVAW FBI Files on page 25 of Section 15.PDF:
On April four, one nine seven two, a confidential source, who has furnished reliable information in the past, advised [REDACTED] that on April four, one nine seven two, a representive of the North Vietnamese Government at the Paris Peace talks telephoned the 'movement' in the United States to be ready to take action, presumably demonstrations, to counter expected escalation of bombing by American air forces in South Vietnam and North Vietnam as a result of the increased military action of North Vietnamese forces in Quang Tri Province, South Vietnam.
Though no longer a member of the VVAW's national leadership by this time, John Kerry was still representing the organization at public events. On April 22, 1972 the Associated Press reported that "Antiwar protestors in New York City planned a mile-long march from the edge of Central Park to Bryant Park in mid-Manhattan for a rally featuring speeches by John Kerry, a leader of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War and Sen. Mike Gravel, D-Alaska."
And this one:
August 13, 2004 -- Found in the VVAW FBI Files on page 251 of Section 10.PDF:
From the Sunday Oklahoman, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, November 7, 1971 by Bryce Patterson
The political power structure within the United States can and must change if the nation is to avoid violent efforts to seize power. John F. Kerry, a member of the executive committee of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, said in Oklahoma City Saturday.
Meeting with reporters before speaking at the University of Oklahoma, Kerry said, "If it (the government) doesn't change we are asking for trouble. If it is not done, those who are talking about seizing it will have every right to go after it."
Kerry emphasized that he and those he represents are totally opposed to any such violence.
John Kerry plants himself firmly on both sides of a key issue of that turbulent era: whether it would be legitimate to overthrow the government of the United States by force.
I guess the SBVT are trying to say that he's a "flip flopper" here?
LOL!
The SBVT are asking for help in reading the files so they can post anything negative then can find about Kerry, so maybe the story that Kendra posted will lead them in that direction? They are looking for volunteers to read the files too!
This is their statement for all of you interested:
Okay, here it is -- the mother lode of FBI files on Vietnam Veterans Against the War. This archive contains 21,477 pages of documents received in response to our Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, bundled up by the FBI as PDF-format Files of Unusual Size.
So pick a file -- any file. We would ask serious researchers to send us short overviews of the material you read so we can index the information a bit better. And of course, if you find anything especially interesting please call it to our attention. We have some concern about the bandwidth this is likely to consume ... ... in addition to giving you a warm, glowing feeling of accomplishment. Enjoy...
I took out the sentence where they ask for money, because I didn't want my post to get deleted for soliciting on the DIS.
There are only a little over 1,000 pages about the action of the V V A W during the month of November, 1971, posted on the link I posted in my first post. The files look like this:
Section 08 (October / November 1971, 284 pages, 9.59 MB
Section 09 (October / November 1971, 294 pages, 16.1 MB
Section 10 (November / December 1971, 294 pages, 24.5 MB
Section 11 (August / December 1971, 283 pages, 6.89 MB
Maybe someone from the DIS can get the SBVT the breaking story! You never know!
If indeed there may be new files released that might give the article Kendra posted some credibility, I would think we would all have to wonder about a couple of things:
1.) Why were 21,000+ pages of files released, but not the most damning information? What is the FBI trying to hide by not releasing that particular file with the rest of the files? Should the new files released be trusted as factual?
2.) If the FBI indeed knew about some assination plot set forth by the much hated (in those days and I guess still by some) V V A W but did nothing ... arrested no one ... why is that? Was the FBI incompetent? Or did they somehow want and hope the assinations took place?
Or were they in cahoots with the V V A W?
3.) Which FBI agents and Nixon administration members will take the fall when it all comes out about the assination plot, knowing now that the FBI did nothing to stop it!
Just throwing that out there.
And lastly Elwood, no I didn't read all 21,000+ pages, I only read the pages I thought might contain names of people I know, but, I never found their names in any of the files I read.
