Kerry Apologizes

My god...the man clearly doesn't think the troops are dumb..and if you think he does, you are clearly looking for a reason to jump on him.

He apologized..move on with your lives.
 
Charade said:
Are you living in some alternate universe? The Liberal only thread is like a junk yard dog while the Conservative only thread is a nice soft cuddly Labrador (but he does bite every so often).
John, what is the color of the sky in your universe. You are wrong again. You evidently like being wrong
 
The Democratic Whip in the House has a great statement about House Majority Leader Boehner's insult of our troops. http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Sen._Reid_blasts_Rep._Boehner_for_1101.html
A statement also came from the office of House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-MD) which said that "John Boehner's comments defending Donald Rumsfeld and, by implication, laying the blame for our failures in Iraq on the military just shows how out of touch he is with the American people and the situation on the ground in Iraq."

"The responsibility for the gross miscalculations and incompetence in the war in Iraq lies with the Secretary of Defense and ultimately with the Commander in Chief," the statement continued. "Our troops have performed brilliantly, with honor and courage. Any suggestion otherwise is outrageous."
Bush went on record today stating that Rummy will be with bush through the end of his administration. Boehner had no choice but to insult our troops in order to defend Rumsfeld.
 
NewJersey said:
My god...the man clearly doesn't think the troops are dumb..and if you think he does, you are clearly looking for a reason to jump on him.

He apologized..move on with your lives.

:thumbsup2 Exactly.
 

TheDoctor said:
John, what is the color of the sky in your universe. You are wrong again. You evidently like being wrong



You just can't make this stuff up! :lmao: :lmao: :rotfl: :rotfl:
 
NewJersey said:
My god...the man clearly doesn't think the troops are dumb..and if you think he does, you are clearly looking for a reason to jump on him.

He apologized..move on with your lives.


Kerry has accused troops of being dumb, of murdering, raping and lots of other atrocities since Vietnam. He's about as anti-troop as they come. His apology was forced after exclaiming "I apologize to no one" and he had pressure to do so.

He may have fooled some folks with it, but the insincerity of his remarks stand out. Bush if far from perfect, but thank God Kerry wasn't elected our President.
 
marybet said:
I was going to post this too.

Do you think this will be the end of it or will they pick this apart and say it is not a true apology.



I'll start. Pick, pick, pick, not a true apology. The guy is a lying scum bag. :furious:
 
This editorial from the NYT is great on the stupidity of these attacks on Senator Kerry. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/02/opinion/02thu1.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
In Mr. Bush’s world, there are only two kinds of Americans: those who are against terrorism, and those who somehow are all right with it. Some Americans want to win in Iraq and some don’t. There are Americans who support the troops and Americans who don’t support the troops. And at the root of it all is the hideously damaging fantasy that there is a gulf between Americans who love their country and those who question his leadership.

Mr. Bush has been pushing these divisive themes all over the nation, offering up the ludicrous notion the other day that if Democrats manage to control even one house of Congress, America will lose and the terrorists will win. But he hit a particularly creepy low when he decided to distort a lame joke lamely delivered by Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts. Mr. Kerry warned college students that the punishment for not learning your lessons was to “get stuck in Iraq.” In context, it was obviously an attempt to disparage Mr. Bush’s intelligence. That’s impolitic and impolite, but it’s not as bad as Mr. Bush’s response. Knowing full well what Mr. Kerry meant, the president and his team cried out that the senator was disparaging the troops. It was a depressing replay of the way the Bush campaign Swift-boated Americans in 2004 into believing that Mr. Kerry, who went to war, was a coward and Mr. Bush, who stayed home, was a hero.

It’s not the least bit surprising or objectionable that Mr. Bush would hit the trail hard at this point, trying to salvage his party’s control of Congress and, by extension, his last two years in office. And we’re not naïve enough to believe that either party has been running a positive campaign that focuses on the issues.

But when candidates for lower office make their opponents out to be friends of Osama bin Laden, or try to turn a minor gaffe into a near felony, that’s just depressing. When the president of the United States gleefully bathes in the muck to divide Americans into those who love their country and those who don’t, it is destructive to the fabric of the nation he is supposed to be leading.

This is hardly the first time that Mr. Bush has played the politics of fear, anger and division; if he’s ever missed a chance to wave the bloody flag of 9/11, we can’t think of when. But Mr. Bush’s latest outbursts go way beyond that. They leave us wondering whether this president will ever be willing or able to make room for bipartisanship, compromise and statesmanship in the two years he has left in office.
The fact that bush and Rove are using their same old slime and divide tricks. If you want to know why the country is so divided and partisan, just look at these smear tactics.
 
LiLIrishChick63 said:
the terrorism that HAPPENED on 9/11 was Bush's excuse to go into Iraq. they didn't do anything to us. Afganistan(and i apologize if i spelled it wrong) was the country that attacked us. why aren't we there? why are we even in Iraq?

and if you actually paid attention instead of just picking apart things you don't like about my posts, i said that i do like the military, i just don't like what they're doing in Iraq. pay attention.
Afghanistan didn't attack us.

Al Qaeda attacked us. One of their "cells" is in Afghanistan and they also have "cells" in other countries throughout the world. They are who attacked us.

In terms of Senator Kerry...he said a bad thing. He would have done better if he had simply said "I said a bad thing and I am sorry" and not added all the baloney about the President, the Republican Party, a misinterpreted joke or anything else.

I don't dislike Senator Kerry. He has made contributions to this country in many ways. This was a stupid mistake, his error, had nothing to do with anything or anyone else. He said it, he owns. If he wants to disagree with the war, the President, the Republican Party...more power to him...he certainly has the right to do so. But don't be disrespectful to the troops.

An apology that comes after a firestorm of protest seems less like an apology and more like "damage control" to me. But I will assume he is truly sorry for his statements, as he said, and move on.

Certainly, there is nothing all that interesting on this thread to keep me here....just the usual Democrat vs. Republican name-calling.::yawn::
 
TheDoctor said:
This editorial from the NYT is great on the stupidity of these attacks on Senator Kerry. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/02/opinion/02thu1.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin The fact that bush and Rove are using their same old slime and divide tricks. If you want to know why the country is so divided and partisan, just look at these smear tactics.


Wow, another "Lets blame Bush for everyting" article from the NYT. Shocking.

And Bush is the one doing the spinning.......:rolleyes:
 
If you want to know why the country is so divided and partisan, just look at these smear tactics.

It doesn't matter who started the divide and smear, it matters who stops it. I remember Democrats back when Reagan was President making statements about how stupid he was, and thus calling everyone who supported him stupid. This kind of thing is not new, and neither side can play innocent.
 
disneyfan67 said:
You just can't make this stuff up! :lmao: :lmao: :rotfl: :rotfl:

You're so right, because except for the occasional death threat to liberal posters, the people who post on the Conservative thread are saints. :goodvibes
 
Just so I get this out, I haven't read all the responses from this, or the other John Kerry thread, but from what I read, I've noticed something. The left is doing with the John Kerry comment that it so often accuses the right, spinning, and in some cases turning this around and blaming someone else...namely President Bush. At least that's what I've noticed, and that's just my opinion.
 
What the world needs now....

Is LOVE sweet love,
It's the only thing,
That there's just too little of...

EVERYBODY SING! :hippie:

I didn't get it in the 60's- but I sure get it now. I really wish both sides would take the "bulldog" out of their arguments and try to be respectful in what they post. A little respect goes a long way.
 
karebear1 said:
What the world needs now....

Is LOVE sweet love,
It's the only thing,
That there just too little of...

EVERYBODY SING! :hippie:

I didn't get it in the 60's- but I sure get it now. I really wish both sides would take the "bulldog" out of their arguments and try to be respectful in what they post. A little respect goes a long way.


I like KumByya better!
 
There is so much I'd like to say about this topic. At this point for people to be squabbling about minor points of view and getting really fixated on having to be right about everything even the way things are worded just seems sad beyond belief.

He mispoke. When I say mispoke, I mean he probably said what he meant and shouldn't have. It was insensitive, I guess, but I agree with him. Like I said, I could never run for anything, my head would be on a platter day one.

I agree with him and I won't apologize for it. As grateful as I am that there are those who are willing to die for our country, that's just how sick I am that they are dying for this manufactured cause that I never believed in from day one. I don't want anyone's son to be there, but if my own were there, I'd be a regular Cindy Sheehan.

But now we are there, we've screwed everything up and we have to fix it somehow. I don't know how. But we do. We owe it to the Iraqi people, and to the men and women who have died, and to those still fighting, and to ourselves, because it's the right thing to do.

Because of that Kerry better say he's sorry and just shut up. Like I do when I'm in a discussion, except for this one, about the war these days.
 
CapeCodTenor said:
Just so I get this out, I haven't read all the responses from this, or the other John Kerry thread, but from what I read, I've noticed something. The left is doing with the John Kerry comment that it so often accuses the right, spinning, and in some cases turning this around and blaming someone else...namely President Bush. At least that's what I've noticed, and that's just my opinion.

Actually, it's Clinton's fault.
 
I found this to be funny
"I think it's important to note that nobody hates the troops more than decorated war hero John Kerry. We're all very, very lucky that we have draft-dodgers like George Bush and Dick Cheney to point that out to us."
---Jimmy Kimmel
 
When I say mispoke, I mean he probably said what he meant and shouldn't have. It was insensitive, I guess, but I agree with him.
So, you are saying he is lying when he says that what he said was not what he really meant? And that you agree that our soldiers end up in stuck Iraq because they didn't pay attention in school?
 
poohandwendy said:
So, you are saying he is lying when he says that what he said was not what he really meant? And that you agree that our soldiers end up in Iraq because they didn't pay attention in school?

I'm saying that alot of people end up saying they are sorry for things because they are sorry they hurt people and not because they are sorry for the content of what they said. Why else would I keep my mouth shut when I'm around people who are military? I certainly am against the war, but I would be sorry beyond words if I said so and they were offended.

When I was in HS alot of kids ended up in Vietnam because of bad grades - that had more to do with the draft but it could have the same result today. Of course there are many young men and women that would disagree with me about the war and have enlisted because it's what they want to do, but surely you aren't suggesting that no one is in the military because they had run out of options - because I happen to know a few.
 


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