Just get over it, Obama was elected

[Stac1023]

I am so tired of the Bush supporters complaining. Get over it Barack was elected president. We need to clean up the mess that has been created by Bush and his friends. They keep getting richer and we keep getting poorer. They have run us into the ground. Just look that us look how bad everything is right now. I did not support Bush and think that he will be remember as the wrost pres. ever.

 

[JLKennedy]

I am so tired of the Bush supporters complaining. Get over it Barack was elected president. We need to clean up the mess that has been created by Bush and his friends. They keep getting richer and we keep getting poorer. They have run us into the ground. Just look that us look how bad everything is right now. I did not support Bush and think that he will be remember as the wrost pres. ever.

It would be nice and gracious if you didn't try to start yet another war here.

The mess our country is in isn't solely Bush's doing. If you were to review the house/senate you would see that they (dems) have held the majority for most of his 2nd term. If they didn't support a Bush plan, they had the numbers to get it thrown out.

What have you done to clean up the mess? Did you send back your economic stimulus? It is so easy to blame the man who still holds the office, but he couldn't do anything without the house & senate supporting him.

 

[sha_lyn]

Good one....We should "get over it" just like all the dems did for the past 8 yrs. Afterall we all know that no one complained about President Bush for 8 yrs.....

 

[breezy1077]

Good one! I know some folks that still aren't "over" Bush getting elected....twice.

 

[breezy1077]

Good one....We should "get over it" just like all the dems did for the past 8 yrs. Afterall we all know that no one complained about President Bush for 8 yrs.....

Yeah, what she said....

 

[friendofgusgus]

I'll be sure to run right across the aisle... it seems so friendly there!

 

[ConcKahuna]

Good one! I know some folks that still aren't "over" Bush getting elected....twice.

In all fairness, he lost the popular vote the 2nd time.

As for dems being in control "almost half of Bush's 2nd term", what's the excuse for the other 6 years?

 

[breezy1077]

In all fairness, he lost the popular vote the 2nd time.

As for dems being in control "almost half of Bush's 2nd term", what's the excuse for the other 6 years?

He was still elected...

 

[creativeamanda]

Good one! I know some folks that still aren't "over" Bush getting elected....twice.

I agree. While I think the best thing to do now is to support our president elect, whether we agree with his agenda or not, I also heard people complain for 8 years that Bush was never really elected president, yada yada yada. This is the pot calling the kettle black.

FTR, I don't like President-elect Obama. I don't think he's going to help our economy, and I think he will be very similar to Frmr President Jimmy Carter. But at the same time, I have a great deal of respect for the office of the President and believe highly that he will be tested early. For that reason chiefly I think we need to all stop complaining. Complaining does not get us anywhere.

 

[Charade]

Bush won't be "gotten over" by his critics for YEARS (to be fair, neither has Clinton)! And now just after 3 weeks you want Obama's critics to "get over it"???

Seriously???

 

[JLKennedy]

In all fairness, he lost the popular vote the 2nd time.

As for dems being in control "almost half of Bush's 2nd term", what's the excuse for the other 6 years?

That is why we use the electoral college, otherwise, NY, CA and TX would determine the president every election and everyone else's vote wouldn't matter, the popular vote thing is the oldest excuse on the books.

The other 6 years? Well did you remember the planes that hit 2 towers in NYC, the Pentagon and a field in PA? You really don't think that had an economic impact on Americans?

 

[loco4dis]

I'll be sure to run right across the aisle... it seems so friendly there!

 

[creativeamanda]

In all fairness, he lost the popular vote the 2nd time.

As for dems being in control "almost half of Bush's 2nd term", what's the excuse for the other 6 years?

Yet no one has tried since President Bush's election to change the electoral college system. He's not the first President who lost by popular vote yet still won the race.

As far as our economy goes, we were heading in a downward spiral before Bush took office yet I don't personally think Clinton was the problem at all. I think the American people themselves are to blame for the mess we are all in. We lived beyond our means for too long and this is the backlash of it all. We borrowed money over and over and over again and now expect the government to fix everything. People who legitimately couldn't pay due to illness and what not are being overshadowed and lost behind pure greed. The only people that can fix our problems is ourselves, yet rather than believe that we got ourselves into this mess and letting the chips fall where they may, we have asked the government over and over and over again to fix the problem. The problem is the people who have been responsible end up footing the bill for corporations and people who were irresponsible. All I want now, though is a solution for the problem. The American people spoke. They decided President-elect Obama could do it. I hope they are right.

 

[ConcKahuna]

That is why we use the electoral college, otherwise, NY, CA and TX would determine the president every election and everyone else's vote wouldn't matter, the popular vote thing is the oldest excuse on the books.

The other 6 years? Well did you remember the planes that hit 2 towers in NYC, the Pentagon and a field in PA? You really don't think that had an economic impact on Americans?

Oh I work in the tourist industry so I know all about the economic impact of 9/11. I also know that we rebounded nicely a year or so later, and that it was other factors that have lead us to our current place.

 

[Master Mason]

In all fairness, he lost the popular vote the 2nd time.
As for dems being in control "almost half of Bush's 2nd term", what's the excuse for the other 6 years?

You might want to go check your facts first of all, and second popular vote doesn't elect a president anyway, it is electoral vote.

 

[loco4dis]

In all fairness, he lost the popular vote the 2nd time.

As for dems being in control "almost half of Bush's 2nd term", what's the excuse for the other 6 years?

Bush won the popular vote the second time, in 2004, by 50.7 to Kerry's 48.3. He lost the popular vote the first time, in 2000, 47.87 to Gore's 48.38.

 

[creativeamanda]

Oh I work in the tourist industry so I know all about the economic impact of 9/11. I also know that we rebounded nicely a year or so later, and that it was other factors that have lead us to our current place.

We rebounded only because lending practices were relaxed especially to help those companies who would have failed after 9/11. We relaxed lending practices then to prevent exactly what is happening now. We relied on the good name of American people to stand by the loans they took out, but guess what? We started signing our names to contracts and just walking away. It's still our own fault, but if it helps people to sleep better at night to blame President Bush, then that is fine, too.

 

[ConcKahuna]

We rebounded only because lending practices were relaxed especially to help those companies who would have failed after 9/11. We relaxed lending practices then to prevent exactly what is happening now. We relied on the good name of American people to stand by the loans they took out, but guess what? We started signing our names to contracts and just walking away. It's still our own fault, but if it helps people to sleep better at night to blame President Bush, then that is fine, too.

I agree with that 100%. I was replying to the above post that brought up the dems being in controll the past 2 years.

 

[creativeamanda]

Bush won the popular vote the second time, in 2004, by 50.7 to Kerry's 48.3. He lost the popular vote the first time, in 2000, 47.87 to Gore's 48.38.

Ya know, I thought it was the first election when I read that at first. But just so that OP knows. . .

There have been 4 contested elections since the electoral college began:

In 1824: John Quincy Adams v Andrew Jackson--Four men in the same party ran for president. Jackson won the electoral and popular votes, but then the House of Representatives had to make a decision because the 4th person, Clay, threw all of his votes to Adams. This was the first election where popular vote count was kept and for good reason.

In 1876: Rutherford B Hayes v Samuel Tilden--Tilden had the popular vote, but lost to Hayes by one electoral vote.

In 1888: Benjamin Harrison v Grover Cleveland--Cleveland solidly won the popular vote, yet Harrison won the election. Harrison won this election because of Cleveland's high amount of popularity in the South where he was popular for wanting to reduce tarriffs to formerly Confederate states. Harrison won because he wanted to keep the tarriffs and areas with less populations threw all of their electoral college votes to Harrison. In the six southern states of Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, and Texas, Cleveland received over 65% of the vote. The electoral college definitely did it's job here, because the purpose of the system is to keep one region from making the decision as to who becomes president.

In 2000: George W Bush v Al Gore--Had Al Gore been elected President, he would have become president purely by carrying less than half of the states. This was, yet again, the electoral college doing it's job by making certain larger states and more concentrated areas of the United States did not prevent representation from every area in the US.

 

[Tink888]

The losing party always gets to bash the winning party.

Democrats did it for eight years, now it's the republican's turn.

It's the consolation prize.

Everyone wants to see the country improve. We all have different beliefs and will disagree as to how to achieve that. In the end though, the only thing that really matters is that we get there. I think we can all agree on that much.