Just Back - My thoughts

minera

Disney Bound 07/18/2016
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We just got back a few hours ago, and thought I would post my thoughts while it is fresh in my head...

1. I will probably never stay at a value resort again. 1st, at least at this time of year tourist groups were all over the All Star Resort we stayed at. They were often out sitting with their entire group in our courtyard at all hours. Many times I woke up to noise from them. 2nd, the walk from our room to the main lobby was entirely too long. Did not help that our building was at the very back of the resort. I did like the Resort Bar, and mostly the Food Court, Store, and Game Room. Pools were like bath water and were often full of bugs so we didn't get in them more than a couple of times. I also didn't like that the pools didn't have a waterslide like the mid-levels I have stayed at. The rooms were very small but adequate. However, I did not like that my room had no hair dryer (what hotel room doesn't?), the refrigerator was always warm, and that the temperature on the thermostat would go no lower than 68 degrees.

2. I highly recommended snacking your way around the world, and posting to social media as you do it with ratings. Our entire network of family and friends felt like they were with us as we chose snack, tried them, and rated them at each country. As we were in each country we posted to Facebook, with family and friends posting their recommendations and adoration of the pictures we posted! It elevated they experience greatly!

3. Do become part of the show. In China at Epcot, my teenage daughter and niece picked up little puppet animals, and became street performers with them in France. They gathered a small crowd several times, and again it heightened the entire experience.

4. Do take an afternoon break during the hot months! We did this recommendation and it was amazing. We would tour in morning and then break in afternoon, then go back out till closing!

5. Sometimes #4 didn't work with a group as large as our 12 people. Rope drop became harder the further into our trip we went. By day 4, I learned to go with the flow and make changes on the fly to keep happiness and peace, along with fresh feet, and less-exhausted people. A few days we skipped rope drop, moved fast passes, and had even better experiences because we were able to sleep in.

6. Following the recommendation to have only a 3-4 sit down meals for everyone across the entire trip proved excellent. The 3 we actually did were exhausting to gather 12 people in the same place at the same time. They were great meals, but just bringing everyone together after being on the go, sometimes split, sometimes together was just tough. I wouldn't trade it for the world as some of our best experiences and pictures came from those meals.

7. Some board recommendations and how they worked out: Frogg Togg Cooling Towels proved virtually useless in the fight against the humidity. They stayed wet for a good amount of time, but with the humidity it was more like a sticky warm wetness that was neither refreshing or cooling. Mister fans proved tough to carry around. We didn't like the added weight to our carry pack.

Umbrella is probably the one item I used in the hot month of July the most. It provided me a good shade from the sun when it was beating down on me. Many people were using them. A DayPack with a Water Belly worked well in theory but it became a leaking mess when ice was added to it. I am not sure what went wrong, we had to remove it from the day pack.

Moleskin was not helpful for us either. However, I may have applied this wrong. I applied it to my shoes and slipped all around on them. I think I may have needed to apply it to my feet directly? On that subject, Keens Whisper Shoes provided the most excellent choice for park touring. I wore them for a month or so before we went to break them in, and they were great. Only had an issue with feet the last two days, but we had walked so much no shoes were going to help.

Chafe Stick was great for between legs and also on feet at rub spots. I highly recommend. Also carrying deodorant in park bag was a must especially during the heat months. Many smelly people out there...

8. I love the fact that they employ so many special needs employees. Virtually everywhere we turned we encountered cast members that were special needs. They made the park more magical with the pure joy many of them exuded by just being there. Although, most cast members we encountered were like that. There were only a few who didn't seem to care for their job and showed it.

9. Waits for the buses were often longer than expected. Also, they packed the buses like sardines. I often was very uncomfortable with the number of people on the bus.

10. My daughter has Asperger's. The moving walkways on many rides now throughout Disney made it not possible for her to ride. Unfortunately, I did not realize until close to the end of the trip that she could use the wheelchair access for most of them. I mentioned the issue to several cast members, and nobody even noted the wheel chair access to consider. Partially blame on me for it not to dawn on me. It was not something we had experienced before, and the last time we were at Disney 5 years ago, I don't recall having so many rides like that, or maybe we just went on a different set of rides. They just asked her if she would like to ride or not, and then directed us to the exit. I will know now for the future, but I wish they didn't have those moving walkways in general.

11. Kali River Rapids was the biggest let down for many of us. I don't recall it being so bland on our last trip. Or maybe being from a Six Flags area, we have seen better.

12. Enchanted Tiki Lounge.... highly recommend you pretend it is the greatest thing ever, and encourage new visitors in your party to see the show. Attend with them to see their reactions. When Disney gets something right, they nail it (IE. Festival of the Lion King - LOVED!), when they get it wrong, it is really wrong!

13. App Wait Times on the Disney App were more often not accurate. I think a lot of that stemmed from all the tour groups. Several times our wait times jumped significantly when a tour group walked into the fast pass line all together 30-40 strong.

14. We prefer Typhoon Lagoon over Blizzard Beach. The wave pool at Blizzard Beach is constant small rocking waves that made me nauseous, but Typhoon Lagoon's was great with one giant wave every several minutes that people actually rode. We left Blizzard Beach after a couple of hours because after only an hour open, it was wall to wall people.

15. We were disappointed in this trip bringing a bunch of first timers with us to formerly one of our favorite restaurants - Teppan Edo. We found the food to be just okay this time, and my promises of a great show didn't happen. The only thing the chef did was the volcano, that was all. The rest of the time he just cooked the food. The chef that did the table next to ours, did several tricks and that table had a fantastic experience. Probably will not bother again with this one.

Okay, there was a lot more but those are the big thoughts I had. It was a fantastic trip, and we had a lot of fun bringing our extended family on their first Disney trip. We were able to hit every park, get a lot of touring in, and avoided long waits by proper planning. We will go back to mid-levels next trip, probably rent a car, and avoid the summer months.
 
Thanks! We leave in a few weeks and I appreciate these just back threads. Always tips to consider!! Think I'll leave my cooling towels at home this trip. You are the fifth out of five people not to recommend them in this humidity! They will work better in drier weather! Glad you had a lot of fun!
 
Yes, moleskin need to be applied to your foot, not the shoe. You cut a piece out in the shape of the blister you want to cover, and place it over the blister so the fuzzy side is touching your skin, then you can either hold in place with a band-aid or preferably, cut another piece of moleskin larger than the first and place that over the whole thing sticky side down (so that it covers the smaller piece of moleskin and sticks to your skin).

In the future you may want to consider going to guest services for the disability assistance card so that they can accomodate your daughter. If you mention her fear of the moving walkways I'm pretty sure the CMs can stop the walkway on those omnimovers. It's Space Mountain and Pirates you need alternate disembarking from since they have those speed ramps at the exit.
 
I am doing a trip very similar to yours in November. 13 family members, many on their first Disney trip, are counting on me to make their vacation wonderful. Thanks for posting your advice!!!
 

Yes, moleskin need to be applied to your foot, not the shoe. You cut a piece out in the shape of the blister you want to cover, and place it over the blister so the fuzzy side is touching your skin, then you can either hold in place with a band-aid or preferably, cut another piece of moleskin larger than the first and place that over the whole thing sticky side down (so that it covers the smaller piece of moleskin and sticks to your skin).

In the future you may want to consider going to guest services for the disability assistance card so that they can accomodate your daughter. If you mention her fear of the moving walkways I'm pretty sure the CMs can stop the walkway on those omnimovers. It's Space Mountain and Pirates you need alternate disembarking from since they have those speed ramps at the exit.


Good idea about Guest Services. We didn't experience this issue when we went last. I cannot recall if that was because there were less moving walk ways at that time, or if her issue with escalators/moving walkways hadn't developed. She has had the issue for as many years as I can remember, but most of her major aversions began around 5th grade so maybe it hadn't developed as prevalent as it is now.
 
Thanks for all the observations it's good to hear back from people who have just gone.

As far as Value resorts goes I have to ask did you happen to look into information regarding them before booking them?

1st, at least at this time of year tourist groups were all over the All Star Resort we stayed at. They were often out sitting with their entire group in our courtyard at all hours. Many times I woke up to noise from them.
Due to the cost the All-Star Resorts are going to be the most often booked by large groups. I don't know which All Star you stayed at though. I hate loud loud groups so I feel ya.

2nd, the walk from our room to the main lobby was entirely too long. Did not help that our building was at the very back of the resort.
Long walks are not isolated to Value resorts however if you needed to have less walking then booking a Preferred room at the Values allows you to be closer to the bus transportation. It's not a better room (as some people have thought) it's just a closer to the transportation room however it does cost more per night than a Standard room.

I also didn't like that the pools didn't have a waterslide like the mid-levels I have stayed at.
A bit of research before booking would have let you know they didn't have waterslides. If that was an important feature of your resort it would have required booking of at least a moderate to get that. I know having water slides is a must for some families so if there are none it can be a disappointment.

The rooms were very small but adequate.
The rooms are ~260 sq ft. I know it's not something most people would think to research before booking me included. That being said that is information available through a bit of research. I actually found out about the sizes when I was searching WDW stuff on Pinterest lol.

However, I did not like that my room had no hair dryer (what hotel room doesn't?)
I believe the All Stars are supposed to have hair dryers (though just the small ones) in their rooms. It is listed for each All Star resort on Disney's website.

the refrigerator was always warm
What was the temperature setting? Just asking. If adjusting it didn't do anything to the overall temperature I can understand the frustration with that. Maybe a call to guest services to alert them.
 
Shoot yeah...the longest walk we've ever had? Animal Kingdom Lodge- Kidani. The walk was so bad we will never stay there again for fear of having a room at the end of the mile long hallway. It was brutal.
 
Overall that was a great report, well thought out with concise thoughts on specific aspects of your stay. thanks!
 
10. My daughter has Asperger's. The moving walkways on many rides now throughout Disney made it not possible for her to ride. Unfortunately, I did not realize until close to the end of the trip that she could use the wheelchair access for most of them. I mentioned the issue to several cast members, and nobody even noted the wheel chair access to consider. Partially blame on me for it not to dawn on me. It was not something we had experienced before, and the last time we were at Disney 5 years ago, I don't recall having so many rides like that, or maybe we just went on a different set of rides. They just asked her if she would like to ride or not, and then directed us to the exit. I will know now for the future, but I wish they didn't have those moving walkways in general.
Anytime you encounter something your daughter has an issue with, ask a CM for help. They can slow the omni-moving lines down for her or stop it all together.
 
Thanks for posting. Lots of credit to you for managing a group that large. That involved a lot of preplanning and changing plans on the fly you did a good job.:thumbsup2
 
Thanks! We leave in a few weeks and I appreciate these just back threads. Always tips to consider!! Think I'll leave my cooling towels at home this trip. You are the fifth out of five people not to recommend them in this humidity! They will work better in drier weather! Glad you had a lot of fun!
My Frog Togg was a lifesaver last September! Snapping it helps activate the cooling feature. Sometimes I would wet it with cold water again, but not often. We were there over Labor Day and the following week. Still plenty hot and humid, for sure!
 
We just got back a few hours ago, and thought I would post my thoughts while it is fresh in my head...

1. I will probably never stay at a value resort again. 1st, at least at this time of year tourist groups were all over the All Star Resort we stayed at. They were often out sitting with their entire group in our courtyard at all hours. Many times I woke up to noise from them. 2nd, the walk from our room to the main lobby was entirely too long. Did not help that our building was at the very back of the resort. I did like the Resort Bar, and mostly the Food Court, Store, and Game Room. Pools were like bath water and were often full of bugs so we didn't get in them more than a couple of times. I also didn't like that the pools didn't have a waterslide like the mid-levels I have stayed at. The rooms were very small but adequate. However, I did not like that my room had no hair dryer (what hotel room doesn't?), the refrigerator was always warm, and that the temperature on the thermostat would go no lower than 68 degrees.

2. I highly recommended snacking your way around the world, and posting to social media as you do it with ratings. Our entire network of family and friends felt like they were with us as we chose snack, tried them, and rated them at each country. As we were in each country we posted to Facebook, with family and friends posting their recommendations and adoration of the pictures we posted! It elevated they experience greatly!

3. Do become part of the show. In China at Epcot, my teenage daughter and niece picked up little puppet animals, and became street performers with them in France. They gathered a small crowd several times, and again it heightened the entire experience.

4. Do take an afternoon break during the hot months! We did this recommendation and it was amazing. We would tour in morning and then break in afternoon, then go back out till closing!

5. Sometimes #4 didn't work with a group as large as our 12 people. Rope drop became harder the further into our trip we went. By day 4, I learned to go with the flow and make changes on the fly to keep happiness and peace, along with fresh feet, and less-exhausted people. A few days we skipped rope drop, moved fast passes, and had even better experiences because we were able to sleep in.

6. Following the recommendation to have only a 3-4 sit down meals for everyone across the entire trip proved excellent. The 3 we actually did were exhausting to gather 12 people in the same place at the same time. They were great meals, but just bringing everyone together after being on the go, sometimes split, sometimes together was just tough. I wouldn't trade it for the world as some of our best experiences and pictures came from those meals.

7. Some board recommendations and how they worked out: Frogg Togg Cooling Towels proved virtually useless in the fight against the humidity. They stayed wet for a good amount of time, but with the humidity it was more like a sticky warm wetness that was neither refreshing or cooling. Mister fans proved tough to carry around. We didn't like the added weight to our carry pack.

Umbrella is probably the one item I used in the hot month of July the most. It provided me a good shade from the sun when it was beating down on me. Many people were using them. A DayPack with a Water Belly worked well in theory but it became a leaking mess when ice was added to it. I am not sure what went wrong, we had to remove it from the day pack.

Moleskin was not helpful for us either. However, I may have applied this wrong. I applied it to my shoes and slipped all around on them. I think I may have needed to apply it to my feet directly? On that subject, Keens Whisper Shoes provided the most excellent choice for park touring. I wore them for a month or so before we went to break them in, and they were great. Only had an issue with feet the last two days, but we had walked so much no shoes were going to help.

Chafe Stick was great for between legs and also on feet at rub spots. I highly recommend. Also carrying deodorant in park bag was a must especially during the heat months. Many smelly people out there...

8. I love the fact that they employ so many special needs employees. Virtually everywhere we turned we encountered cast members that were special needs. They made the park more magical with the pure joy many of them exuded by just being there. Although, most cast members we encountered were like that. There were only a few who didn't seem to care for their job and showed it.

9. Waits for the buses were often longer than expected. Also, they packed the buses like sardines. I often was very uncomfortable with the number of people on the bus.

10. My daughter has Asperger's. The moving walkways on many rides now throughout Disney made it not possible for her to ride. Unfortunately, I did not realize until close to the end of the trip that she could use the wheelchair access for most of them. I mentioned the issue to several cast members, and nobody even noted the wheel chair access to consider. Partially blame on me for it not to dawn on me. It was not something we had experienced before, and the last time we were at Disney 5 years ago, I don't recall having so many rides like that, or maybe we just went on a different set of rides. They just asked her if she would like to ride or not, and then directed us to the exit. I will know now for the future, but I wish they didn't have those moving walkways in general.

11. Kali River Rapids was the biggest let down for many of us. I don't recall it being so bland on our last trip. Or maybe being from a Six Flags area, we have seen better.

12. Enchanted Tiki Lounge.... highly recommend you pretend it is the greatest thing ever, and encourage new visitors in your party to see the show. Attend with them to see their reactions. When Disney gets something right, they nail it (IE. Festival of the Lion King - LOVED!), when they get it wrong, it is really wrong!

13. App Wait Times on the Disney App were more often not accurate. I think a lot of that stemmed from all the tour groups. Several times our wait times jumped significantly when a tour group walked into the fast pass line all together 30-40 strong.

14. We prefer Typhoon Lagoon over Blizzard Beach. The wave pool at Blizzard Beach is constant small rocking waves that made me nauseous, but Typhoon Lagoon's was great with one giant wave every several minutes that people actually rode. We left Blizzard Beach after a couple of hours because after only an hour open, it was wall to wall people.

15. We were disappointed in this trip bringing a bunch of first timers with us to formerly one of our favorite restaurants - Teppan Edo. We found the food to be just okay this time, and my promises of a great show didn't happen. The only thing the chef did was the volcano, that was all. The rest of the time he just cooked the food. The chef that did the table next to ours, did several tricks and that table had a fantastic experience. Probably will not bother again with this one.

Okay, there was a lot more but those are the big thoughts I had. It was a fantastic trip, and we had a lot of fun bringing our extended family on their first Disney trip. We were able to hit every park, get a lot of touring in, and avoided long waits by proper planning. We will go back to mid-levels next trip, probably rent a car, and avoid the summer months.
We also just got back last week and it was awesome. The low crowds this July were amazing!

Well, low except for Blizzard Beach. I was amazed that with relatively low theme park crowds, BB was so instantly packed on a Monday (we arrived before rope drop, too). "Lucky" for us, we got two hours of BB park shutdown due to lightning around noon, and stuck it out in the rain under a shelter. When the park finally reopened, lines were short & we got on all of our desired rides within an hour. At which time another thunderstorm rolled in, and we left, satisfied. The crowds there in the morning were terrible, though. I had a first timer with me & was so frustrated for his sake, before the long lightning closure chased the crowds out.

I know what you mean about never staying value again. I tried Pop Century once, and would really like to enjoy a value, but given the room and other issues, that's just not going to happen. We enjoyed pitching our own tent at Ft. Wilderness a lot more than we did staying value. When I don't want to pay for a deluxe, I now just stay offsite.
 
Thanks for the info. I think I am going to bring an umbrella for the sun. I burn really easily. Sunscreen is going to be my best friend.
 
Yes, moleskin need to be applied to your foot, not the shoe. You cut a piece out in the shape of the blister you want to cover, and place it over the blister so the fuzzy side is touching your skin, then you can either hold in place with a band-aid or preferably, cut another piece of moleskin larger than the first and place that over the whole thing sticky side down (so that it covers the smaller piece of moleskin and sticks to your skin)
Ideally you put it on the spots where you feel the irritation before the blister has formed, in which case you just apply a single layer, adhesive side down. The only reason for putting it fuzzy side down is to avoid tearing open the blister if you need to remove it, but by then, you've already waited too long for applying the moleskin.

If you're prone to blisters, I suggest sitting down after the first hour and checking your feet before it's too late. At the latest, just after lunch assuming you started around park opening time. But you might be able to tell as early as standing in line for the first ride.
 
Thank you for your report.

The value resorts just aren't for everyone, I've tried staying at two and have thrown in the towel. They just aren't my style and I too found the rooms too small. As far as the walk, I stayed at AsSp and Pop and walked the entire resort of both of them every morning (at Pop walked over to AoA and around that whole resort too) and have to say I didn't find any rooms at either of them any further than the rooms at the moderates or the deluxe. The deluxe resorts all have those long REDRUM hallways and in some cases so many twists and turns you can get lost every time so the walk is just as long, only inside.

We snack around the world just about every trip, we aren't big on plans and most of the time it doesn't start out as a planned thing, it just happens.

We don't plan afternoon breaks but they happen every once in awhile. If we are tired we just go back to the resort and hang out at the pool or nap (two adults).

Your #5 is actually what we do every trip, just go with the flow. We make ADRs on the fly and FPs the night before since we just never know what we want to do the next day and we never book them before 10 am. My grown son likes to sleep in and I don't so sometimes I'll get up and head to a park and wander around riding rides until he gets up.

I think it's impossible to predict the wait times, our method is just look at the line, since we have ridden all the rides we like many times we know what the que looks like and we can pretty much predict how long it's going to take according to where the line is.
 
I highly recommended snacking your way around the world, and posting to social media as you do it with ratings. Our entire network of family and friends felt like they were with us as we chose snack, tried them, and rated them at each country. As we were in each country we posted to Facebook, with family and friends posting their recommendations and...
I'd unsubscribe from anyone who did that. But I won't even join Facebook, so don't judge by me. I'm glad you have an extended network that was able to share that way.
 
Thanks for the info. I think I am going to bring an umbrella for the sun. I burn really easily. Sunscreen is going to be my best friend.

This thread was a huge help, now I'm thinking about looking into parasols!

Get a UV umbrella: one that is specially-lined to block out the sun. A regular umbrella won't block much, but a UV umbrella is a solid sunblocker & is my constant companion at the Disney theme parks in summer (a medication I'm on makes my skin more sensitive to the sun). You can find one online.
 
Get a UV umbrella: one that is specially-lined to block out the sun. A regular umbrella won't block much, but a UV umbrella is a solid sunblocker & is my constant companion at the Disney theme parks in summer (a medication I'm on makes my skin more sensitive to the sun). You can find one online.

Thanks for your help, I will get one of those.
 





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