Just Back From July 17th Weekend

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I flew back home last night from a marathon 3-day experience at Disneyland. Although I had been planning to be at the 50th for twenty-five years, I actually canceled my trip in May. By July 4 I was in remorse over my decision and within a few days I had another trip scheduled.

I arrived at LAX on Saturday and picked up my rental car from Hertz. They gave me a free upgrade from an economy car to a convertible. This was a great sign. So in the overcast weather, I dropped the top and made a b-line for Disneyland.

I was on Town Square at 10 am and called my other half from the dedication plaque. I then went to the "First 50 Magical Years" display and presentation. I was not impressed with either the display or the film. I found the 100th birthday display at WDW to be much more impressive.

The park was very crowded. A mixture of Disney fans, "nuts", and tourists alike. I cought the first "Snow White" show and thought it was pretty good. I had not seen it before. My goal for this trip was to see most of the attractions that I had not seen since my last trip to DLR in 2003.

Of course I hit the shops and of course the "nuts" were in each shop, in big numbers. There was even a line to get inside the Disneyana shop, and they had the entrance from the coffee shop closed.

I only stayed at Disneyland for about 4 hours that day. I also went to DCA and it was fairly empty. I walked right into the Hyperion theater for the Alladin show and was very impressed by this one. The Genie was awesome and this show is right up there with "Festival of The Lion King" at DAK.

Thanks to single-rider lines, I was able to walk on to both Grizzly River Run and Soarin' Over California. I had a corn dog at the Corn Dog Castle and browsed through some shops before leaving for the day.

My plan for July 17th was to become fully immersed in Disneland for that day. I did not camp out with the "nuts" at DCA. I arrived at the Mickey and Friends parking structure at 6:am and by getting into the far left lanes, I was one of the first cars to enter. I parked in the first row of the Mickey level. The tram dropped us off at Downtown Disney and like others, I was shocked by the line to get into the entrance plaza. My spot in line was a few doors up from Jaamba Juice.

While waiting in line, I met people from Stockton and Huntington Beach, CA and from Everett, WA. We had a nice time talking and watching the line grow. The procession of people from DCA to DL lasted just over one hour. We were debating whether they were being stopped at the end of Main St. or if they were being herded to the Festival Arena. It was obvious that they were probably going to both.

By the time I got into the park at 8:15, I walked to Fantasyland and then to get a view of the Festival Arena. Fantasyland was empty. You could walk on any ride there. The same applied to Buzz Lightyear on the way. The mob scene at the festival arena was unimaginable. The line stretched all the way to Splash Mountan and I believe it started making it's way back. By 8:30am all vouchers were gone. Fortunately the only pin I was interested in was the Walt one, and if I didn't get it, sobeit.

All of the other dated merchandise was available at The Emporium, Showcase and Star Traders. So I went to the Emporium and bought one of each item and took my purchase to package drop off. The line to the Festival Arena eventually dwindled down to nothing and at about 5:30pm, I was able to walk into the arena and get in line with one person ahead of me to buy my Walt pin.

The day had a bit of an earie feel to it. Part of this was because the Disney "nuts" were only there for two things. A pin that they had to stand in line for up to twelve hours to get. And the anniversary celebration at the castle. The anniversary ceremony started late. It was very nice. I especially appreciated Art Linkletter and Diane Disney Miller. Bob Iger was passionate and even impressive. I was standing on Main St. through Iger's segment, watching via big screen, because you couldn't get anywhere near the castle. When Eisner was introduced I left, rather than boo him. I walked to the Small World area where I caught the rest of the ceremony and got emotional when Walt's daughter recited the first sentence from Walt's dedication speech.

Over the next few hours I "took in" Walt's park from a variety of angles. I found myself spending a great deal of time on Main Street. I rode Splash Mountain and it broke down. Fortunately it was at the end, just after the riverboat. We had to be escorted off the ride and it was kind of cool seeing the backstage areas of the ride.

For the parade, I sat on the curb at Town Square and had a great view. For the rebroadcast of the Walt's dedication speech, I was ten feet away from the plaque. Security had cleared a path for Mickey Mouse to walk to the plaque. I had a clear view of Mickey at the flagpole. The small tribute was nice, but I felt that the announcer's voice sounded somber, rather than excited. It was almost as if Walt had died recently. I thought the moment should have been more sentimental.

I was able to get on several more rides, including Buzz Lightyear and Pooh. I thought the Buzz ride was better than the WDW version, but aside from the Critter Country setting, the pooh ride at WDW was better than Disneyland's.

I sat in the middle of the plaza or "hub" for the fireworks. The view was amazing. The new technology for the fireworks was quite impressive. I liked the "E-tickets in the Sky" part, although some of it was a bit long. Overall, I was not impressed with this show. I don't like the wishes music. Julie Andrews was a nice touch, but I could have done without "This is Julie Andrews." I think "Believe" was a much better show, and they could have done a better job with this one by mixing that show with the 50th anniversary element.

After the fireworks, I headed to Frontierland where I was in the front section across the water from the stage for the 10:30 Fantasmic! show. While I had not seen this show in four years, I was saddened to see that they replaced the Ursula float with more video. The video is impressive at first with the water screens, but for me, it get's old quite fast. Therefore it is all video from after the princess segment until the queen appears and then more video!. That part reminded me of the Florida version. Too much video! But the show was still great.

I left the park at midnight, after spending 18 hours at Disneyland. I was not exhausted or worn out from the crowds. I was very happy that I had no negative encounters with the "nuts" or "fungrabbers" on July 17. The birthday of Disneyland was a great experience for me. But I couldn't shake the feeling that something was missing.

I returned to Disneyland on Monday morning just as the park opened at 8:00. I had an early entry, but chose to sleep in instead. I headed straight for Space Mountain, which I had missed the prior two days. The new ride was great. I loved the smooth track and the new music. My only criticism of the new Space Mountain is that it seems like they had gone over budget with the theming improvements and chose to skimp on the SpacePort. New railings and paint aside, I thought they were going to do more inside that area. Other than that, the ride was fine.

As I headed to Fantasyland, I solved the mystery from Sunday. I discovered what the missing element was from the day before. TOURISTS! I guess the tourists and families on vacation chose to visit other parks and/or parts of Southern California on July 17, fearing the dreaded capacity crowds.

Disneyland is just not the same without all of those first time or non-regular visitors. The expressions on kids faces when they see Mickey Mouse for the first time is priceless. I also enjoy watching and interacting with guests who appreciate Disneyland and don't take it for granted. Unlike the people who "reserve" spaces for Fantasmic! eight hours before the show. Or people who cry when the wait for a ride is 20 minutes or it doesn't offer Fastpass.

I believe Disneyland was more crowded yesterday than either Saturday or Sunday. The food lines were long, ride lines were longer. Strollers were everywhere and it was a sense of controlled chaos. The way Disneyland is when it is at it's best.

I will alway cherish the fact that I was at the park on it's actual 50th birthday. I appreciate the cast of Disneyland for doing an incredible job of keeping order in the park and planning the datails just right. The cupcakes were good too, and they lasted all the way until closing. I saw guests taking home full boxes of leftover cupcakes.

Most of all, I thank the Disney folks for allowing the disney "nuts" to camp out like they wanted to, and for giving them a location all thier own to congregate both at DCA and at the festival arena. After they got what they wanted, they went home or back to their hotels. This allowed the real Disney fans or purists to enjoy Walt's park on this very special day.

As I prepared to leave Disneyland to return to LAX, I hopped on one original ride that I had never ridden before. I took the horse-drawn streetcar from Sleeping Beauty Castle to Town Square. This was the perfect ending to a great trip to Walt Disney's Magic Kingdom.
 
This allowed the real Disney fans or purists to enjoy Walt's park on this very special day.
I have a very good friend who would be considered a "nut" by you. It is a little offensive to hear you refer to people this way. She is a "real" Disney fan and just because she wanted to camp out doesn't negate that.
I don't post here often and I may be out of line, but there may be some others here who will be offended.
I am glad you had a nice time and got out of it what you wanted, but she did too! She was able to meet many other enthusiasts who share her love, just not exactly like you did. :goodvibes
 
I agree. I am not sure you can label someone a nut or a purist by your own observation. That sounds a bit nutty to me! Also, some of those nuts live close by and didn't pay a bunch of money to fly to LA just to go Disneyland by themselves. Some people might think you are the nut.
 
I love how people use the word "offended" so much. "I'm offended by what you said." "People might be offended by your statement." It goes on and on.

I am sick of (not offended by) people who use this defense when they have a difference of opinion. Who cares if you are offended. If someone is describing a situation or talking about something that you disagree with, you get offended. Give me a break.

The act of being offended is a very selfish one. Especially when the comments may not have been directed towardsyou in the first place. We all get to decide what is offensive language and what comments are offensive. Therefore if we don't like hearing something, we can be offended by it. Being "offended" is a choice and not a feeling. It's a way to try to make someone feel guilty about something that they said that you don't like.

If you take exception to a person's comments here or anywhere, then why do you reply back? All that does is justify the comments in the minds of the poster and those who agree with him/her. I have read posts here where the so-called "real" fans have referred to themselves as "nuts". Why aren't you offended by that.

I would like to say that your behavior is "offensive" to me but since I don't want to drop down to your level and I don't beleive in being offended, let me say that I just find your self-centered comments ignorant.

If that offends you, GOOD! :rolleyes:
 

I'm sorry. I didn't know that going on a trip by yourself to Disneyland makes you a nut. Or that paying a lot of money to fly to LA makes you in some way
a freak. I always thought that if you had the means and the interest or passion, you could go anywhere you want, whether it be by yourself or with others.

Some of us are perfectly comfortable traveling alone if our own partners are not interested in braving the crowds and the "nuts" for such an event.

I have taken numerous business trips to LA when I visited Disneyland by myself before going home. I have also taken entire trips to WDW ALONE!! as well as with others. This is called being independent. I highly recommend it.
 
of·fend ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-fnd)
v. of·fend·ed, of·fend·ing, of·fends
v. tr.
To cause displeasure, anger, resentment, or wounded feelings in.
Sounds like it is about feelings. Sorry you have such a problem with semantics.
 
exDS vet said:
I'm sorry. I didn't know that going on a trip by yourself to Disneyland makes you a nut. Or that paying a lot of money to fly to LA makes you in some way
a freak. I always thought that if you had the means and the interest or passion, you could go anywhere you want, whether it be by yourself or with others.

Some of us are perfectly comfortable traveling alone if our own partners are not interested in braving the crowds and the "nuts" for such an event.

I have taken numerous business trips to LA when I visited Disneyland by myself before going home. I have also taken entire trips to WDW ALONE!! as well as with others. This is called being independent. I highly recommend it.

I don't find you to be a nut at all. I don't think going to Disneyland alone is at all nutty and that's not what I meant. In fact, some day when my kids are all grown up I can totally see going to Disneyland by myself and experiencing the park in a whole new way. What I was trying to say (and not very well) is that to some people they would think "man that guy is over the top spending all that money going to Disneyland, even I wouldn't do that". I would disagree with them completely for thinking that. My point is that you might think some people are nuts and they might think the same thing about you. See how crazy that is? It seems silly to classify people as something just by observing them at the park. Disneyland means a million different things to a million different people. How people choose to see and enjoy it is very personal. No way is right or wrong and nobody has a market on being a true/pure Disney fan. I don't blame you for misunderstanding my comments, and I am sorry my post indicated something other than what I was trying to say. Just bear in mind your comments could be read in a variety of ways too. Have a Disney day, and your Disney room is very cool!
 
This nut is glad you had a great time!


Melissa
 
Thanks for taking the time to write the report! Glad you were able to experience it!! :earsgirl:

p.s. I noticed that you used " " around the word 'nuts', I took it as tongue-in-cheek. Obviously, you're a pretty die hard fan yourself if you were willing to brave the crowds and the heat to be a part of Disney history (not judging, just jealous that I wasn't able to do the same, and I'm a local ;) ) Personally, I don't see what the fuss is all about. To each their own, I suppose.
 
I think the original poster used the word "nuts" to describe those fans who I have described as "fungrabbers". However, I have also read several posts where the die-hard Disney fans refer to themselves as "nuts".

On the thread where people gave descriptions of their trip to DL over the birthday weekend, several people called themselves "nuts." Of course some people on this thread went crazy when they were called the same name.

I am a true Disneyland fan. A die-hard if you will. But I don't cosider myself to be a "nut". I am also not upset by the use of the word. There are a number of people out there who think the park is theirs. They think these boards are theirs. They even say that they "have the power" to make people's day, or whatever through DIS.

In my post about "fungrabbers" I received mixed replies. About half of them agreed with my views and a few others disagreed. Guess what! You are all entitled to your opinion, even if it is wrong. :smooth:

In my case or the case of exDSVET, I don't think we were speaking to any certain individual. We were speaking about certain groups of fans. Basically I think you have fans, fanatics, fungrabbers and even groupies. You can pick which category you fall into, but I think it's unfair and in poor judgement to attack a person for stating his/her opinions and observations.

Please feel free to attack me again.
Thank You.
 
Well, let me analyze myself here...
:Pinkbounc Nut- I joined the overnight DCA party and stood in line before 4 a.m. just to do it.
:bounce: Not Nut- I didn't get in any pin lines, nor did I have any interest in pins.
:Pinkbounc Nut- I sent my DH and kids to go visit his family and I enjoyed the day by myself
:bounce: Not Nut- I skipped the "ceremony" altogether for to walk onto Indiana Jones, Splash, Pirates, Mansion, Pooh, and Astro Orbiters. Seeing Eisner was not really a goal of my day.
:Pinkbounc Nut: I did not purchase one peice of merchendise all day. Other than food, I bought a book to keep my pressed pennies in.
:bounce: Not Nut- I did not refer to myself as a nut in previous post, but rather, a "nutjob"
:bounce: Not nut: I did leave the park early, by 5, but not because I had my pins and the ceremony was over. The combination of cupcakes and cotton candy had me sick in a public bathroom. And I had a 2 hour drive home.

Conclusion: I am not a nut. I am a nutjob. Who wants to go next?
 
Mary Jo said:
I don't know.... I guess, sometimes you feel like a nut...

sometimes you don't

:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:
Too funny Mary Jo, every since I read this thread last night I have had that song going through my head. I may need to run to my local convenience store and get an Almond Joy bar!
 
As a self-proclaimed disney "freak", it's just a term to describe how crazy we really can be about something we love so much..sometimes my trip planning, disney collecting, and conversations go overboard, and I have to laugh at myself!!! Freaks, nuts, nutjobs, etc.... are just terms of affection!
At Goofy's kitchen last Tues, my friend's 4yo dd had a birthday cupcake, my friend said, "quick eat the mickey off of the top before Carol saves it!" Priceless.
:lovestruc Everyone knows I'm a disney "freak", and that's ok.... :lovestruc
 
I didn't want a pin, but I came home with four tee shirts...how nutty is that?
 
I didn't want to camp overnight at DCA, but I managed to get a couple of shirts and a couple of Walt pins.

And I wished the cupcakes were chocolate, but beggars can't be choosers, right? :rotfl:
 
My boyfriend and I waited in the 9 hours line... not becasue we wanted a pin (although, we did end up getting one, and are planning on giving it to our grandkids someday :p) But, becasue we didn't know anybetter.

Kevin and I are very new to this 'nut' thing. It has always been beyond our means to visit Disneyland on a regular basis... but, within the last year, we have both secured good jobs and are able to visit monthly (we are from Arizona...)

Someone the day prior had told us on May 5th people had begain lining up around 11pm... she didn't tell us why, we just knew we had to line up early... we left the park at 11:30 and lined up in the tram parking lot. We had bought a blanket and layed it out... and the wait began...

I won't bore you with details... ask if you would like to hear them anyways... but Kevin and I made some of the greatest friends we have ever made in that line for 9 hours :) Carrie, Jesse and Courtney, Crystal (you owe me my Stitch pin!), Heather, Kurt and Mom... you are all so dear to Kevin and I... you are ALL invited to the wedding :)

but, I don't think I'm a 'nut' becasue I spent 9 hours in line, and got a pin... and I don't think I'm selfish for feeling a little hurt (offended, if you will.) that you would openly bash people who post on these boards...

All in all, everyone is welcome to enjoy Disneyland the way they choose too... this is out world. If you want to skip sleeping for several days to take it all in, so be it... if you want to travel alone, so you can rock the single-rider line... thats awesome too. Don't be little, or make anyone feel less of a Disney fan just becasue they collect pins... or collect any other kind of merch.

Everyone that takes the time to visit the park... watch the movies... collect the toys... anything... is a true Disneyfan. Don't be an elite-ist... Walt wouldn't approve ;)


*steps off soap box*
 
Ursula float in Fantasmic four years ago? :confused3

Anyone else remember that?
 
I remember that -- I still miss it.... She was so cool coming 'round the river bend.

On the other hand - not that I mean to hijack this thread.

I was able to see Fantasmic on the 18th with Tink33, and was VERY happy to see that they fixed the Pinocchio segment of the show, so he was dancing up there with the other puppets -- much better than the dancing waters when he broke earlier this year.
 




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