Just back from first visit home...long.

Thanks so much for taking the time to post such a wonderful detailed report! It was very reassuring to me as a brand new DVC owner (SSR). We are planning our first trip home in September, spending 2 nights at SSR and 5 at BWV (hopefully). I've been wondering in the back of my mind if we did the right thing, since we love the deluxes. But after reading your report I feel much better.
As far as BWV being your favorite resort, I think anytime you have such a magical vacation, wherever you stay becomes your favorite. We had the same experience last year at the BC - PERFECT vacation. So it's our favorite, at least until September rolls around! :D
 
MinnesotaChill: I looked for you and I am so sorry we didn't catch up w/ each other! It was amazing how I saw people only a few times in the halls as well. And the halls were usually spotless. Only once did I notice someone putting their garbage out and so I moved it to the garbage room for them to clean up a bit. I was thinking of one of the past threads I read on garbage in the hallways. The funny thing I noticed was another family on the bus from Minnesota...... my ears perked up and I listened for details thinking it might be you. But they had 2 kids, a 16 mo old boy and a 4 or 5 year old girl, and the little girl's name was not the same as your little girl's. They were a really nice family and got off at the BW. Then I met them again in the elevator going or coming from the villas. I kept my eyes and ears tuned for you though, esp at the pool where I thought we might meet. Hope you had a great time!!!

Gopherit: LOL about everything you said! And I remember hearing too that it takes engineers to change lightbulbs in the hotel industry due to liabilities and unions I think. I worked in the Hotel Restaurant Industry for a while many years ago and remember that being the case. Crazy, but they must protect themselves.

I am so glad you are going to finally check out the BWV! I am sure you will be very happy! I am sort of wishing I bought there now, although I know deep down that all the resorts have that special something to offer. I guess BWV will always hold a special place in my heart because they are my first. :lovestruc
Sounds like you have an exciting trip planned w/ the whole family! I can't wait to hear all the details when you get back.

I so agree w/ you on paying the extra $ to have someone shop for me when in WDW. We have so little time to go on vacation, that every minute counts for us..... and all of our moments, fun or challenging, are special to us because we have so few times where we are all together as a family. I found myself feeling so grateful for being able to experience DVC because for so many years I couldn't, and there are so many people who can't. I lead a very privileged life and made sure to remember that every single second. Thanks for the great pointers on feeding the kids in the villa. At home we do essentially the same thing. If we go out one night, we must eat in the next to unwind from the night before. My little guy is soooo good at home, but that's because his meltdowns happen in the comfort of our own home the next day when he is exhausted. I am sure as they grow, I will be using the villas more and more to allow them to unwind and rejuvenate for the next day, while we sip drinks out on the balcony....now that's what I call a vacation. You really put it into perspective for me and I am sure I will do the same in the next several years.

As far as your questions..... Well, I would be just thrilled to elaborate for you... LOL.

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I don't remember the surrey bike pricing.... prob around $10 or so for half an hour....but if you are 10 min more than that, they don't charge you more. They told us to come back when we wanted and we giggled and laughed the many trips we made around the BW. It was WELL worth the $. We even parked it on the bridge by EPCOT to watch the Fireworks. It is very difficult to pedal up hill at the bridges, but easy everywhere else. I was holding Caroline and my son's Buzzy and Woody dolls and my DH was peddling. Well, he demanded I help peddle up those hills because he was getting very tired and was laughing at the same time so we almost started going backwards. The family in front of us kicked out the oldest son to "push" the surrey up the hill. We made lots of friends that first night on the surrey and from that point onward we joked w/ surrey bikers knowing what they were going thru. It's like a little club now.

Luna Park Pool seemed very clean to me. I noticed no needed cleaning on the tiles, although as I've mentioned before, I was looking thru rose colored DVC glasses. I didn't look at them w/ a critical eye and may not have noticed if they did need a bit of cleaning. Although I think if they were really bad they would have caught my attention. I thought all of WDW was extremely clean. I read some posts in the rumors board about gum on the walkways and overflowing garbage cans. I actually looked for those things (being in the HR&IM Industry and having to clean up that junk and bathrooms myself and having a 2 yr old who insists on sitting on the ground and eating his fruit juice snacks off the ground) and noticed no problems whatsoever. I kept looking at the walkways, esp in MGM and noticed them looking spotless. I was very impressed.

Food..... well, that is my favorite topic. I have served many people in my past life and just LOVE to go out to dinner while on vacation and have others bring the good food to me. I am actually a pretty great customer though because I practically scrub the floors and table after our visit and tip 20 to 25% for good service. I really enjoy my dinners out and they really make my vacation. So the BW Restaurants where we ate........

Spoodles: In Room Dining - twice ............... DH had the chicken w/ cous cous dish.......MARVELOUS!
Breakfast.....We had the frittatas (sp?) and I walked them over to the pool where we ate our breakfast........ PERFECT!

ESPN: Too crowded most days (due to the Superbowl frenzy). They even set up a white tent w/ 20 TV's to show the game. It was hopping and looked like fun, but we didn't get a chance to eat there.

The Boardwalk Bakery: Danishes and coffee were good there.

Flying Fish: In Room Dining - twice.... I had the crab cakes w/ remoulade sauce which were to die for. Only had that sauce in select locations throughout Eastern US and love that sauce. That dinner and the gentleman who brought it both nights made this dinner my favorite while down there this time.

Cape May Cafe: We went to Goofy's Beach Blast on our last day there. It was relaxed, food was really good, and everyone who worked there were so warm and friendly w/ us. They sat w/ us and chatted, colored w/ my 2 yr old, rocked the baby, and asked us before they removed the buffet items since we were the last ones in the restaurant and we really camped out long. No snotty looks or huffs or sighs. Everyone smiled and seemed delighted we were there even though we were keeping them from finishing their work day. I was really pleased w/ their professional demeanor.

Yachtsman Steakhouse: We tried to get takeout our first night, but they didn't do takeout. They welcomed me to come in and showed me all the other kids in there, but I didn't feel like going thru all the hassle since we had traveled via 2 planes and a van to get there that day and didn't want to push the kiddies too far. I have eaten there numerous times in the past and it has been a wonderful place to dine. One of our favorite servers works there too and we usually go there to revisit him.

I wanted to try Beaches and Cream, but didn't have enough time.

We ate at the Biergarten the 2nd night and Tristan finally came out of his shell. He paraded w/ the other children and danced the chicken dance on the dance floor. Sylvia, our server, was a delight, and the couple sitting next to us were a LOT of fun. Why they thought to put us w/ an unmarried couple w/o kids, I have no idea. But it worked out beautifully and we really hit it off. They mentioned that other people's kids are great birth control, and we used to say the same thing before our kids. Now I love everybody's kids. Funny how things work. But they were really good sports about sitting next to a 2 yr old. I loved the Riesling Wine and my husband asked for their biggest beer and got a huge mug of beer. After a couple of those, our stroll home through the drizzle was delightful. The park was empty, both kids fell asleep in the stroller and we finally got the peace and quiet we needed. We strolled hand in hand back home, smiling the whole way, and thanking ourselves for buying into DVC. We made another PS for Biergarten for the end of our stay. The 2nd time (our last night) was just as good as the first. We will definitely go there again on future trips.

San Angel Inn: Kids were good "inside" the restaurant and the food and service from Celia were excellent. My DH doesn't care for ethnic foods, but he went for me and found tacos and quesadillas which he could eat. We both enjoyed our lunch there. We separated on our exit from the Inn, though, which lead to a disastrous conclusion. I stayed to pay the bill, then went to the bathroom, DH went outside w/ our darling and sweet son and daughter to get the stroller up and moving and to give Tristan some exercise. Apparently our DS decided on this trip (this has never been an issue before) that he must be w/in eyesight of mommy at ALL times and, if not, he was going to find her or scream at the top of his lungs until she finds him. Well, my DH found the stroller w/ the bird poop on it and my DS's coat, then DS noticed I was missing and took off after me into the Inn. My poor DH was holding DD by the stroller by the benches trying to clean up the mess when he realized DS was off and running. W/ DD in a football hold, he ran up the stairs to catch him. In the meantime... I meandered out of the Inn to find the stroller by the bench w/ no husband or children nearby. I waited thinking he was checking out the boats on the water or something. Well, my husband finally caught my DS right in front of the Mexican band who were playing at the time until my DS's screams drowned out their music. The nice band member decided to play my DS a personal solo to "tame the beast", and my DS screamed all the louder and if my son could have, he would have grabbed that poor man's instrument and bonked him over the head w/ it. I guess at this point, my poor DH who is normally at work all day and is not used to these wonderful mood swings (or as you would put it, Radioactive Meltdowns), picked our son up by his arms and literally "dragged" him and my poor DD who had to ride along on this adventure out of the Inn, down the stairs, and over to the stroller. My DH said he caught a glimpse of all the people and their open mouths staring at him like he was an alien. He wished he had that "flashy thing" on MIB to make them all FORGET what they just saw. He is not used to the humiliation us moms go thru on a daily basis. He comes home from work when everyone is nice and quiet and happy to see him. In the meantime, I am calling on his cell phone to find out where they all were and I heard the ringing coming closer and closer and looked around and saw DH's face, DS hanging by his arms w/ a red face, and DD still in her football hold wondering what the heck was going on, and I knew right then and there we were going back to the BW. Our day had officially come to an end.

I just saw the NY news segment titled "Eat at Your Own Risk" featuring the Biergarten, Brown Derby and San Angel Inn. Well, I ate at all 3 this time and LOVED them all very much. The food was delish, the service was perfect, and I will eat at all of them again in a heartbeat.

Wanted to, but didn't get the chance to eat at Fresh.

Well, now I have one of those WWIII stories about my children. I guess they aren't the perfect little angels we hope them to be. And the look on my DH's face was priceless. I feel he finally got just how head strong a 2 yr old could be. Luckily, because we did mostly dinner shows like the Biergarten and Spirit of Aloha and the Hoop de Doo, he was really well behaved due to watching the show.... my DH and DS. Ha Ha.

As far as character meals: We ate at Cape May Cafe as I mentioned above, Liberty Tree Tavern (delightful, great food, relaxed and friendly characters and CM's, and toasty warm on a rainy night at the MK), Chef Mickey's (very good as well, but much more hectic and energetic, a little too busy for me, but the characters worked really hard at spending quality time w/ us), Crystal Palace (perfect food and service as usual, characters were very friendly except for Pooh who seemed a bit off and antisocial, but nothing too noticeable for kids just my trained eye).

Thanks so much for asking all those wonderful questions gopherit. Of course you knew I always love to elaborate... I just needed you to ask. I was very happy to hear from you and you always give me a great laugh. You have a reputation now to live up to and I will expect to hear funny stories now every time you post now. No pressure though! It was great hearing from you!

bub: It was so nice of you to post your past experience w/ young children and to send me your kind thoughts. It is soooo nice to know that other parents have gone thru what we have gone thru. I had a lady come up to me in the store off of the BW Lobby and mention how "GOOD" my children were being. I told her it was my kid who was screaming about an hour before as my son was being dragged (yes, that time too) down the boardwalk by my DH. She said she heard other small children screaming throughout the parks and resorts, but has yet to hear my child doing so. I was amazed that other parents were going thru the torture we had been experiencing. Every time we looked at the other children in line and such, it was ours acting up. But I guess they all have their moments. I was so surprised at the limits of my DS though. At home we can go on 10 rides or so at our amusement park. I figured on 4 or 5 at WDW. He did well w/ 2 or 3. We really had to cut back due to all the extra stimulation maybe, or the jet lag maybe, or due to sleeping in an unknown bed.... who knows what triggers their episodes. They just seem to have more while in WDW. We had so much fun playing the "good" parent w/ the "well behaved" child.... while the other suffered w/ the "bad" one. We started using our 1,2,3 method w/ a spank on the bottom on 3 and he really began to get better after learning that method. At 2 he would clam up and sit nicely. It just took him a few days to learn it. We never had to use that on him at home because he never really acts up around here. But before we found out that he needed to see me at all times (not an issue at home), he had several meltdowns w/ my poor DH (who figured I was doing a lousy job raising this child w/ all of the tantrums.... he figured I wasn't disciplining him), melting to the ground and crying so that other kids had to step over him to get to the playground at Mission Space, and when my DH finally scooped him up to leave w/ him, he also would hit, scratch, cry terribly. I thought it was because he was a boy. But your story makes me feel better that girls do this too. The only problem is I get to look forward to going thru all this again w/ baby girl. Yippee. Thank you so much for your bus story.... I am going to read it word for word for my DH so he knows there are good and loving parents out there who also have those difficult times and that maybe it's not us... it's the age. And you have even more fun to look forward to...... your daughter will soon by 11, 12, 13..... and the stories I hear about girls at that age. My heart goes out to you. :eek: I'd love to chat again on the boards w/ you. Take care.

Nick@ VB+OKW: I was hoping to receive one of your smileys. Thanks for reading my posts and getting in contact w/ me. I always love reading your posts! Have a magical day!!
 
K9pal: EXACTLY! I am also a Deluxe Concierge kind of girl. I've stayed everywhere in the World growing up going to Disney every year w/ my parents. We tented, stayed in the treehouses, value resorts. It wasn't until I got married that I was able to try out concierge for the first time. We stayed at the GF concierge on our 5 yr wedding anniversary and from that point onward, couldn't imagine doing anything else. Of course it cost a lot of money and so we were only able to visit every other year due to our concierge stays. That is why we didn't buy 6 yrs ago when we looked at DVC for the first time. I didn't want to give up on my different stays at all the different resorts and my deluxe stays. I get so much out of each theme and wanted the flexibility to stay wherever I wanted. But after having stayed in the villas, I will find it hard to go back to concierge. Having coffee in my room in the morning w/o having to "scare" the other guests in my robe as another thread and poster have mentioned is a great asset. And dropping by after a funfilled day at the parks as gopherit said to feed the kids at "home" so the family can unwind and get much needed rest is such a wonderful option. Plus, putting my 2 yr old down for nap in the bedroom, while the baby sleeps in the living room w/ Mommy and Daddy sipping drinks on the balcony is the best thing in the world for tired parents. That way, when the one child woke up, he or she didn't wake up the other one. That is a precious necessity to have. I too feared that the villas would be a step down in quality.... yeah, I will have the much needed necessities, but the quality will be more homey. I liked the decor and furniture of the deluxes. I was a bit bummed about losing that, but thought that I am a parent now and can always go back to those after the kids are grown. Well, after staying in a villa for the first time, I think it's as topnotch as the concierge deluxes, even roomier and better w/ the glass door showers, the muccccchhhhh longer balcony, the sitting area, full kitchen area, and the fabrics and decor and furniture were just as nice. And in the deluxe I would've had more trouble getting a child to nap if the other was awake. Here.... no problem. I had the relaxed feeling of being at home in the villa, but definitely not the feeling that I was giving up on beauty and quality. The only difference was Housekeeping, but I tend to like my privacy anyway and usually put "Do not disturb" signs out on the knob due to me napping or such so I didn't need someone to come in every day. I just tidied up after the kids each day and we had a clean and tidy villa the whole stay. But the actual furnishings are just as nice as the deluxes, only you got more room, and a microwave and fridge and huge bathroom etc. There is no comparing the 2. I might want to try our the concierge again as the kids get older to be pampered again and do things like the Sunrise Safari. But until then, I am thrilled w/ our purchase and will be staying in the villas. I am sure you will find the same results. And I am glad BC is your favorite, because we bought there and are looking forward to our first trip there. But first I think we are going to SSR. I find myself falling in love w/ each one too. I just can't help myself. I look forward to reading about your first trip in Sept. I haven't seen you on the DIS much yet myself and I am looking forward to getting to know you here in the future. Thank you so much for getting in touch w/ me.
 
Thanks for posting your trip report. It was great!! We are going in May using our DVC for the first time and I am really excited. It was nice to read some of you experiences with your son. My daughter will be 22 months old when we go and I am getting a little nervous about that. We took her when she was 9 months old and it was so easy but now she can be a challenge when we are out. My biggest challenge with her is the stroller. She does not like it, she would rather walk. Did you fly? If so, any suggestions on how to keep her entertained on the plane. We have a NS flight which is only 2 hours and 15 minutes but that could be the longest 2 hours with her. She will not be happy that she has to sit in one place for that long.

Also, thanks for the report on Cape May Cafe. We do plan to eat there especially since we are staying at BCV.

Thanks again for your report, it was very informative and sounds like you had a WONDERFUL time.
 

Well thanks for posting me AmyTags! I truly love hearing from new people. And I am sure you will very much enjoy your first trip home. My DS didn't start to become challenging until about 2 and 3 mos. but it sounds like your DD is already starting up (girls mature faster you see) and so you will probably want to do prior planning before your arrival. The problem w/ a 2 yr old and walking is they don't like to walk in a straight line. They explore, go into stores, hop off the sidewalk, walk backwards and into people. We tried to give him that independence only to make it 10 feet, then we started going the other way. You can't even stand there and wait for them to catch up because they are all over the place. Piggy back rides worked really great for us. We made it to the dinner and he had fun riding. So that is a thought. Usually if we lock him into the stroller, he is fine for a while until the boredom sets in. That is why you might see us using the stroller like a racecar or swerving in and out of traffic. We must look very dangerous to those walking by, but it keeps him entertained. My DH is a pro at that. The buses were an issue because he had trouble sitting for 45 min w/ no seatbelts and he got itchy and wanted to explore. When we restained him he cried. The dinner shows and character breakfasts worked out great for us. He LOVED the Hoop de Doo, Spirit of Aloha and Biergarten especially. The problem is getting to those locations and I or anyone on the boards can give you good tips on getting there. But he sat beautifully during the entire meal and watched the show, while we enjoyed ourselves, ate leisurely, and watched. He wouldn't eat the food though, so I usually fed him before we arrived so he had no meltdowns from lack of food. And kids are free at the dinner shows until 3 so it is a great time to take them. Very cost effective!

As far as the plane. That was tough. We found it to be difficult to switch planes because both kids would be sleeping on the first plane, we'd wake them up while switching to the other, and then they were difficult to keep quiet and still for the 2nd plane. But we managed w/ a few tips from our doctor and other mommy's on the boards. I always give my babies Benadryl while traveling to help them drain and not have ears popping. The doctor suggested I give Tylenol to help w/ the pain. I gave my son meds before his trip at 8 mos and he did really well. So I gave them both meds this time and it seemed to work ok. I then gave my son fruit juice snacks and pretzels and my daughter a bottle to help them swallow while we ascended and descended. Some people use gum for the 2 yr olds, but my son hasn't had gum yet and would just swallow it. Then if they don't fall asleep and start to get itchy, pull out the new toys. For my son I brought a new and small Buzzy and Woody, I packed about 20 green army men, a small matchbox ramp w/ a few cars, and a few Disney figurines all of which he had never seen before. I thought I had a new item for each leg of the trip that would keep his attn long enough to give everyone a pleasant ride. My DH didn't agree w/ buying all these new toys, but thought I was a saviour on the plane when I was able to quiet him quickly on the way home w/ the matchbox ramp. It was 10 pm and he was content. I noticed some really great princess figurines w/ dresses you could snap on the front of them which might work well in this situation. I thought about getting that for baby girl when she is old enough and traveling.

The only thing I found to be a problem were the seatbelts on the plane. If you are riding w/ her on your lap then this is not a problem for you. But if she has her own seat, beware. My DH was in charge of DS and when DH didn't get the trick out of the bag fast enough for DS, DS started to kick and get upset. He couldn't touch the seat in front of him, until he shimmied downward thru the belt until the belt was at his chest. Then he could reach the seat in front of him. And it was a bugger getting him thru to sit again. He had that melting thing going on. I switched w/ DH and he took the "good" child and I couldn't tighten the belt up anymore. So next time, I might bring his carseat (which you are allowed to do if you are buying that seat) and strap him in very well that way from his chest to his ankles. This way they have no chance of squirming under their seat belt (once they learn they can do that there is no going back) and it pushes them up a bit to be able to see outside the window (which he couldn't do). So remember this for next time if she is sitting on your lap this trip. My most important suggestion would be to bring crayons and a coloring book or small figurines and only bring it out when she really needs it. My son didn't see the matchbox til the last leg of the trip and that was the ticket to get us home in peace and quiet... worked like a charm.

So glad you wrote to me. It's nice to know there are so many newbies out there like me. Can't wait to hear all about your first trip home. Please keep in touch.
 
Originally posted by Disney Enthusiast

he had several meltdowns w/ my poor DH (who figured I was doing a lousy job raising this child w/ all of the tantrums.... he figured I wasn't disciplining him),

Oh yes, don't I just love it when DH asks me, "why are you letting her get away with this?" I usually respond, "oh yeah, you're right here, why are you letting her get away with it?" :rolleyes:
 
Brigitte
Great report and very much enjoyed it. We love Bwv and always have a great trip when we stay there. (Of course I love staying anywhere at disney!) :wave2:
 
SleepyatDVC: LOL! You are so right on the money there. I can take my son to the mall in his stroller shopping for his sister's clothes for HOURS and he just sits there like a little cutey pie as good as can be and everyone comments on how good he is. I take him to WDW and he turns into the Tasmanian Devil. And my DH looks at me strangely like, "Is this our child? Is this what you've been letting him get away with?" And I look at him like, "I swear.... he's never done THAT before." And then we have our Dr. Phil talk on how to handle this child so he doesn't run the whole show w/ our family. Ya gotta pick your battles w/ those 2 yr olds and make sure you win the battle when you do pick. I've kept my husband informed of some of the Dr. Phil suggestions on family discipline and we both seem to agree w/ the good Dr. on most issues. But his quotes came back to haunt me in Disney. "What does Dr. Phil say about this," my DH asks. "You said Dr. Phil says this about that...." says my DH. And when my DH complained too much or referred to Dr. Phil's tactics too much, I offered for him to jump right in and help out. We were definitely in the thick of battle in WDW. It's amazing to me that you need 2 adults to even come close to handling a 2 yr old. And as Dr. Phil says, "....and the 2 yr old is winning the battle." For a man who would rather not hold any babies (even his own until they can walk), my DH sure did request Caroline a lot this trip so I got to be the proud parent to handle the other one. I never thought about it that way, but way to get that bonding going.... ehhh? By the way.... my DS is back to being a perfect little angel now that we are home and in his own environment. So for all of you people out there who heard us coming from a mile away, we are now a well behaved, soft spoken and polite little family again. Even the "Thank you's" are back full swing. Ha ha.

diskat: Thanks for responding and sending me your well wishes. I am so glad you had many good trips to the boardwalk which only shows me that the people who have had problems when staying there are exceptions to the rule. I enjoyed hearing from you. Please keep in touch.
 
Bridgett,

Thank you for answering my question regarding your grocery supplies. Like you, I also mostly eat out while on vacation. So I will probably try the fax list on the member website. I look forward to a more relaxed breakfast in the room. In the past I used room service for coffee and light breakfast. Now I will not have to worry about scaring the skinney out of someone who comes to the door when I answer it before being able to get myself presentable for the day.;)

I also enjoyed your reviews of the restaurants around the WDW. You mentioned a few I have not tried yet, but I will!

I will write a report when I come back in May, however, I think you should ghost write it for me. Your enjoyment of your trip jumped right off the report!:)
 
You're so sweet to say all that MJTinNH! You are welcome and I hope we get to chat a lot more before your trip!
 
Me again, so don't expect brevity! ;)

The dining-in option intrigues me -- I had no idea Flying Fish would set it up in your room! Just what restaurants around there will do that? And with what other associated fee (aside from a nice tip, obviously)?

I wanted to also comment about something you said earlier -- about how you knew DVC was "right" when your dh didn't want to rush home. Amen to that one! That is the MAIN reason we have DVC -- so that DH absolutely MUST take a vacation! Otherwise, we would simply use up all our vacation time on our usual World Tour for Peace amongst our respective families. Now I love our families -- don't get me wrong -- but these folks won't let you stay in a hotel, we don't eat out, space is at a premium usually (we once slept two adults and two kids in a tiny single bedroom with a dble bed with a crater in the middle -- UGH) , and let's face it, while I love tax-free shopping as much as the next person, Delaware ain't exactly the hot-bed of entertainment. So we always feel like we are "work" for whomever houses us, and we never feel like we're "home". With DVC, we can take family WITH us, to "neutral" (wonderfully neutral, I might add!) turf, where dining out is a DEFINITE option and pleasure, and any dining-in is shared so as to never be a burden on ANYONE. It has been WONDERFUL. This is a guy who got very very nervous about taking a week for our honeymoon (and mind you, we were in GRAD SCHOOL at the time, and it was summer, not even like we had fixed jobs or anything!) He is NOT a traveler, whereas I have always traveled since birth, I love it, and even spent a year overseas. So how do two opposites ever meet at the DVC crossroads? Well, I think I knew my DH had truly become "DVC" and "one" with me towards the end of our last trip -- after 9 days, he was actually wistful -- and commented to our boys that he thought 9 days was much better than the 5 day trips. So then it came time to set up this upcoming August trip. We were taking a family "vote" on who to invite, for how long, what resort, etc. When it came DH's time to vote, his exact words were, "Just set it up so we can stay for as ABSOLUTELY long as possible...how many [days] can we afford? Can we do 2 weeks this time? Just set it up for the MAXIMUM." I love that man. :yes: He had also always balked at an add-on, but that was another telling-sign that DVC had gotten into his heart/head -- I had given up on the idea (we had one thing after another attack our slush fund -- car problems, termites, etc) when he said one day, "You know, I was thinking about those BWV points you wanted, and if you really wanted to do it, I bet I know how you could swing it...." He is very financial-security driven, so I know if HE was willing to part with the $$, it was (a) financially doable without risk while also (b) a true testimony of his affection for our vacations! (Have I mentioned I just love this man?)

And it's a darn good thing I love him too, because he often does the kid-swap thing with me too, or somehow pins our child's errant behavior on me! I can relate to your coments on that! He just can't understand how, if we follow a system, there would be any deviation from the path. He doesn't realize that whatever book he got that idea out of -- OUR KID DID NOT READ! In contrast, I'm a significance-driven type parent, so when deviation from the desired DOES occur, I tend to think it was something I should have done, or done better. Ahhh, parenting -- the endless challenge! That's why we need really really good vacations, right?!?

You're already a step ahead ofthe game to realize that high stimuli (like WDW!) is a stressor for your child. Sounds like you managed to find the right balance and keep your vacation on track, too! And FWIW, save some of your wits / strength for that dd... from what I've experienced with my Caroline (now 3, going on 33), my boys were very physical in their play as well as their outbursts, but our dd puts a whole new emotional spin on it EVERYTHING! On the one hand, she can hold my heart in her hand with a smile or a cute saying or a tender hug, or the way she calls her brothers her "boyz", but then again... the old saying about a woman scorned applies at a very early age!!
 
Cost of flight for 3 seats to FLA: $700

Cost of eating around WDW for 8 nights: $1000

Gopherit's stories: PRICELESS! ::yes::

The in-room dinner cost about what it would in the restaurant.....around $30. Then they added an 18% gratuity onto the bill for you. We didn't see any more "hidden" costs and thought the pricing was fine because we were able to enjoy Spoodles and Flying Fish from the comfort of our own home. The server brought real china w/ the metal hoods over each entree, our own salt and pepper shakers, wine glasses and bread and butter. It was just what we needed. We wanted to eat out nice while on our vacation, but didn't want the stress of taking care of 2 unruly children. So $30 a plate was EXTREMELY worth it for us. Maybe not for a family of 4 or so, but for us 2 it was perfect. We even tipped the guy $10 extra for doing such a good job setting up our meals. It was like having our own butler.

The in-room dining included selections from Spoodles, Flying Fish, The Brewery, and I think ESPN. Each of these restaurants offered 3 or 4 selections to choose from their menu. The Crab Cakes I had were actually an appetizer at the Flying Fish and 2 portions were put together to make an entree. So sometimes they might change their signature dish for the in-room dining. The menu also had the regular "hotel" selections that were more generic like breakfast, clam chowder, hamburgers, etc. I had the clam chowder which was VERY good. No restaurants from the Y&B Club were included.... I checked. When we tried to get takeout at the YS, the host asked if I was staying at the Y&B Club because then I could order off their in-room dining menu. So I know the YS offers selections for the BCV.

As far as DH's........ Mine had trouble getting away for our honeymoon too. It was during our "busy" season and there was no one to run the business while we were gone. But obviously we made it, because I am a Mrs. now, and the whole company did NOT fall apart w/o him for a week. His main job is the business, and my main job is being a mommy... so I guess I mostly responsible for the discipline of our children. And I too feel really bad when things don't go like clockwork. I am usually a type A personality, everything has a place and a schedule kind of person. (I even taught my son how to pick up his toys before he learned how to play w/ them. We made it a game of tidying up the house.... yes, I am that bad.) Then your child turns 2 and flips the entire world upside down. I have found out just how little I can control my life and my environment w/ 2 kids. It certainly is a wake up call. All one can do is laugh and go w/ the flow. I am sure that is how all the other mothers make it work out there...... just enjoy the ride. Soon I'll be wondering how they grew up so fast.

I adore my DH too. He gave me 2 wonderful children and the DVC. And although his face scrunches up funny when Tristan is not the "perfect" child and looks at me w/ his questioning gaze as if to say, "Are you going to allow him to do this?" He is also the wonderfully attentive Daddy that will change the topic by playing w/ DS or pointing to things out the window to get DS out of his meltdown mode, or he scoops DS up when the meltdown is inevitable and takes DS quickly to a Neutral Zone for peace talks. He is also the type of man that will be happy to sit down after the kids go to bed and discuss upcoming game plans for future difficult situations. We have had many late night discussions on how to handle the kids. And my favorite is when I can hear him on the intercom reading to our DS about Tigger and Buzzy and Simba and hearing my DS's giggles emanating out of the room. My DH may have just walked in the door from work, but he gives the second he walks in the door. So even though he is working most of the time.... I must admit, he is very involved w/ the raising of these kids. He may not be physically present, but he certainly provides a support network which is so necessary. I just find it so comical when he is thrown into the thick of it when we go on vacation. All of a sudden it's 24-7, it's in your face, and there is no going to the office for a timeout. I think he knows now when I greet him at the front door, why I am so beat up every night, smiling, but definitely beat up.

About WDW and the extra stimuli. That is why I love DVC so much. I knew I was coming back soon, and we could catch that ride or this show the next time. We didn't get to the Lion King Show at AK! Can you believe it? We had to cut our AK visit short and missed it and never got back to it. But as we were leaving I thought, we'll catch it next year and we strolled right out. A year ago I would have fought tooth and nail to get that last show in. We canceled dinner too at Marrakesh and stayed in the villa instead. And Marrakesh gives a 20% discount to DVCers. But we'll catch it next time. And so for the first time we were able to meander around, not have plans til the next morning, change our plans like when we went back to the Biergarten and relax by the pool. My DH works sooo much that it was nice to see him lounging by the pool and going down the slide umpteen million times just for the heck of it. Vacations don't get much better than that. So my commando-style of vacationing is now behind me for awhile. But I can really get used to this type of vacation. And this one seems to resonate more for me. I remember riding the Pirates over the years, but don't remember each specific ride I made on the Pirates, but I will remember sitting by the pool at the BWV forever and what year we did it. So the attractions don't matter as much as the family time spent together. That is what I will think back on when my babies are grown and that is what DVC gives to us. Talk about value. Coming home w/ wonderful and funny memories makes DVC worth every single penny we spent on it.

I love your stories so much gopherit. I am sure others on the boards have gotten many laughs out of them too. Keep them coming!
 
Originally posted by Disney Enthusiast
Cost of flight for 3 seats to FLA: $700

Cost of eating around WDW for 8 nights: $1000

Gopherit's stories: PRICELESS! ::yes::


Aw shucks... yer makin' me blush! :blush: I just wish I could get airfare prices like that... best seat I could get would be $300 for one (then multiply by five and owwwwwch!)

The in-room dining included selections from Spoodles, Flying Fish, The Brewery, and I think ESPN. Each of these restaurants offered 3 or 4 selections to choose from their menu. The Crab Cakes I had were actually an appetizer at the Flying Fish and 2 portions were put together to make an entree. So sometimes they might change their signature dish for the in-room dining. The menu also had the regular "hotel" selections that were more generic like breakfast, clam chowder, hamburgers, etc. I had the clam chowder which was VERY good. No restaurants from the Y&B Club were included.... I checked. When we tried to get takeout at the YS, the host asked if I was staying at the Y&B Club because then I could order off their in-room dining menu. So I know the YS offers selections for the BCV.

Wow, you even read my mind -- my next question was going to be if you knew if BCV had in-room dining, and which restaurants did you think it might be?!? You're psychic! (Set up your own 1-800 number and earn a little extra DVC cash!)

I think the 18% is VERY reasonable -- I pay that or more in a tip anyway. To have that kind of service -- WOW! That is a service that could also come in extremely handy if you had the misfortune of an ill family member, too, and couldn't leave the room. Definitely something for me to keep in mind! :scratchin

About San Angel Inn: More questions! THis is an "iffy" one on my "to do" list -- I'm torn. We've been inside and taken the boat ride at Mexico -- so I know how nice the atmostphere is. But I keep hearing so many conflicting things about the food / service. Did it seemed cramped at all? (Some have complained of this) My dh is NOT adventurous with food -- he's downright picky and very conventional to a fault! (I somehow manage to love him DESPITE his dining flaws!) To give you some idea on his pickiness, when we order Chinese food, he will sit and pick EVERY TINY SPECK OF DICED ONION out of his fried rice! And he will only order beef and broccoli (it's "safe" he says -- no peppers or "weird stuff"). Peppers and celery are given the same special treatment as onions if found in a dish. (Yet this man will eat cooked spinach... go figure). Cultured dining experiences leave him clammy -- words he doesn't wholly recognize (like "wasabe" or "chorizo" or "chipotle") put him in a cold sweat. :scared: Is there anything on the menu there that is relatively tame? I had heard reports that it wasn't like "standard" American-Mexican dining (i.e. Chi-chis, etc.) Does this mean it's more spicy or less? DH could probably manage with an enchilda (he eats them at the Mexican eatery in our town, which is totally owned and operated by a Mexican family, and I feel certain there must be peppers lurking in his food somewhere, they have just managed to camoflauge the little suckers and turn the lights low enough that he can't see them). My SIL/BIL love hispanic / Mexican food and I thought they would love this place, but I do have to be sure DH won't go hungry!

And about the Biergarten -- that's another one that sounds really fun. My mom loves this place, as does my sister and her family, but we have YET to try it. Sounds like your kids enjoyed it -- I am thinking that with 5 kids in our group this summer, a place like this might be a better choice than, say, Le Cellier, where they might feel too stuffy and boxed-in. (And anytime a kid is given a chance to dance, they should!!) Besides -- doing Mexico and Germany would be a truce, of sorts -- Last trip, SIL took her son into Mexico and made a big deal over, "We are in Mexico! This is Mommy's heritage!" BIL is always upset too at how much my SIL spends on stuff -- especially for what he feels are purely sentimental purchases (i.e. souvenirs from a trip -- no. A new boat for him to fish -- YES!!) So when the strollers hit Germany, my sassy BIL had to poke fun and say, "Look, Son! This is Germany! THis is my Homeland! This is your heritage! Come, let us spend $200 dollars!" :rolleyes: So ANYWAY -- about the Biergarten menu -- I can't glean much from the menus posted on other boards -- is it mostly sausages and brats? What sorts of other stuff is in there? (Amazingly, DH does love sausage, though -- he could be ok in here, depending upon what else is served...) Is it the usual kid fare (nuggets, hot dogs, mac and C, oh my... nuggets, hot dogs, mac and c, oh my...) or is there other stuff? How did your dd fare in Germany and Mexico? We'll have my 8 mos old godson with us. I can recall taking our dd at 8 mos to Teppanyaki, and she did fine, except I was very nervous the whole time that something would splatter off the grill (they didn't really have a good place for us to put her -- she ended up in a booster for a while, then on my lap.) We had thought about Teppanyaki for this trip -- but with 5 kids and 4 adults, the wee ones have us outnumbered... we need places that will hold their interest. We are going to try Ohana this time (for our 14th anniversary, no less.) And we love WC -- that's always fun for kids and parents. For character meals, we're going to Cape May (very excited about this -- and you made it sound even better! We plan on a late meal there too!) And probably Crystal Palace. And mayyyyybe Chef Mickey's. We hope to try Beaches but it may be hard -- with 8 poeple, they don't exactly have a lot of seating to accommodate us! The guys want to go to ESPN (if for no other reason than to see the TVs in the Toilets, as my sons say!) And SIL and I are taking a spa morning at GF while the kids do the Pirate Adventure. I would like to try Spoodles, but if we're too beat to make it there after the water park, at least now we now the meal can come to US! We're also doing HDDR and I have plans to get CRT for DD and I one day while the boys do DQ (Disney Quest ... not Dairy Queen!) Failing CRT, we will try for Great Adventures in Cooking or the Tea Party. (When that DD of yours gets a bit older, you MUST do this -- a girl's day out! I did this with DD at age 2 and we've done it ever since! WONDERFUL memories! And the boys enjoy their day together too!)

That's another aspect of DVC, I think -- it turned me into (even more of) an extreme planner! I figure I do all my "commando initiatives" BEFORE the trip, so that I can then RELAX when I'm on it!
 
Hello there gopherit! I got a free time slot here to answer some of your questions. I'll try to be concise, but you know how difficult that is for me.

San Angel Inn: I LOVE IT THERE! And always have. I have eaten there several times over the years and think it is very authentic to the region. I mentioned this on the restaurant board though and a poster from Mexico strongly disagreed saying she had eaten Mexican food her whole life and San Angel Inn is definitely a TexMex kind of restaurant, which may not be bad if we think of our DH's tastes. But I worked at a Mexican Restaurant in my College town who tried to be as authentic as they could until Chi Chi's came in and took over. They even shipped in their own mesquite wood to grill the chicken and beef. And I have eaten Mexican food too in Mexico in my past and I think San Angel Inn does a really great job. The beans are black beans, not refried, and the sauces are whitish (which looks a bit weird at first since we are used to that cheddar yellow orange color) and are delicious. The chicken is so tender in the enchiladas and just melts in your mouth. I usually get cheese enchiladas or been burritos because I don't like most restaurants' chicken. But the San Angel's was marvelous. My DH hates onions and peppers too and he scraped off the few strips of onions on the top of his enchilada. The ones inside must have been too small because he didn't even find any. There is hope though. When he got the Spoodles chicken dinner, it was on a bed of Cous Cous and he was not too excited. He tried it, loved it and ordered the dish again a few nights later. So there you go. I scoured the menu for something DH could eat... Nachos, Quesadillas, Tacos (he only recognizes the hard shells) and we weren't disappointed. I didn't see any hard shell tacos on the menu, but DH seemed to do ok w/ the soft taco. He had the platter w/ 1 enchilada, 1 taco, and 1 quesadilla and you can change that to 3 enchiladas, or 2 tacos and 1 quesadilla or whatever you want. They are so nice and very willing to bend over backwards for you. I also got the Tortilla Soup... yummm! As far as the restaurant being cramped..... YES!!! We always seem to manage to get a table right up at the fence by the water so it seems roomy due to the water being right there, but getting out of that small area took some major negotiations w/ the other diners. When DH went out to the stroller w/ both kids and that horror ensued which I described in detail earlier, I was to pay the bill and carry the backpack and carrier out to meet them. I couldn't lift the carrier up high enough to clear the seats, and I couldn't go betw the seats because we were so jammed in there. I think of it as my Mexican adventure! It didn't detract from our dining experience though. I still love it there.

The Biergarten: I have heard so many mixed signals on this one. Some people don't like sitting w/ others. I am the same way most times because I see so little of my DH, the last thing I want to do is make new friends and not see my DH during vacation either. But we really enjoyed the other couple and the other family we dined w/ on the 2 nights. We laughed a LOT and had a marvelous time. Now maybe we were lucky, but in Disney, I meet very few mean people. So we enjoyed that aspect. You on the other hand will get your own table or maybe even 2 side by side because of the number in your party. The food is good...... Not the BEST meal I had in WDW, but it is a good meal (like Hoop de Doo good). The buffet included everything from sauerkraut to sausages, from lentil salad to dumplings. It had pork, roast beef, roast beef wrapped w/ something inside (although I have no idea what) but very good. The wine and beer are very good and the entertainment is energetic and great. It was worth it to me to get "good" food rather than "truly superb" food in return for the entertainment for the kids. Both kids did well and Tristan even paraded around the restaurant. While he was being entertained, we were making another trip to the buffet. So we really liked it there. Tristan doesn't eat any food in restaurants because he is pickier than his father, but I have heard that all restaurants at WDW provide the standard kids meals so you shouldn't have an issue w/ that. For example, when we went to The Spirit of Aloha, the very nice server asked what Tristan eats and we said "NOTHING". She asked, "Mac and Cheese?" "NO." "Chicken Tenders?" "NO." "PBJ?" "NO." She asked, "What does he eat then?" "Crackers." So she came out w/ a plate of Goldfish and crackers. So they really do try and be accomodating. And Allears.net will give you their menu when you want to know for sure. The only suggestion I would have is to not go to the later seatings. Tristan would just begin to warm up by the end of their 20 min show (and we were eating at the time) so we figured we would eat our dinner, then during the second show, take him to the dance floor to dance and play. But we always managed to eat during their last show. So I had to stop eating to walk him to the dance floor, then he didn't want to get back in his seat, then I had to eat REALLY fast before he got too bored and wanted OUT. Next time I will make a PS for earlier, watch the first show while I eat and let him watch and warm up, then as we're drinking coffee and eating desserts, take him dancing. But w/ your kids being older, you may not have that problem. They can prob. dance on their own.

I have tried WCC and just love it there. We took our nephews when they were 6 and 8. We all loved it. We also took them to the HdeD and they loved that too. The Pirates thing sounds neat! And I just can't wait to find out which princess is DD's favorite someday. We will then try out CRT or the Storybook breakfast or the tea party. I was so proud of myself. I met someone on the monorail coming back from the Luau who said a CM told her there was no other princess breakfast other than CRT and so I let her know about the Storybook one in Norway? She couldn't believe I knew that and a CM didn't and was getting quite miffed and so I explained there is a lot for them to learn and remember and that I found out from other experts like you on the DIS and Allears. So hopefully next time she will check in on the DIS before making her plans.

Never heard of that cooking one though... what is that one? I never thought of doing a girls' day out before, prob. because DD is so young... but that is definitely something to think about!!!

Thanks for all of your marvelous suggestions.... Hope I answered your questions. Definitely try to get to Spoodles at least for Breakfast or something. It is a really nice restaurant. Gotta go... my family is here for Valentine's day and I am the cook... Aghhh!!!
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THanks for the response, especially given that you had company coming over! Glad to see we aren't the only family who dines in for Valentine's Day! We just finished our big family feed too...

As for the Grand Adventures stuff -- try this spot:

http://allears.net.com/btp/grandadven.htm

The "cooking" one takes kids aged 3-10 and they get to make an apron, and make desserts with the chef, then parade around the GF doling out their goodies. My dd is a HUGE cooking fan -- she would love this! Tea party is with Alice characters.

THANKS FOR THE SAI info! I made DH read it -- and I said, "See? HER DH doesn't do peppers and onions, either! And he foudn stuff to eat!" DH nodded approvingly and seemed to agree that it was worth a shot! ;)

You should post over on the restaurants board -- there's lots of folks over there that could benefit from your experiences!

Thanks again!!
 
Thanks for the great trip report. It's exciting to read all the positive things about BWV. We are looking forward to our first trip in June staying at BCV and hope to have a wonderful "magical beginning" as yours was. Your delightful report really made me eager to go. Thanks for sharing so much detail with us.
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Great Report....BWV is also my favorite....Don't have any urge to stay any where else...:sunny: :sunny:
 
Gopherit: Glad I helped and I will try to get over on the restaurant boards and post there.... I just have so much on the DVC board and it's hard to leave it for a second! Thanks for the Adventures in Cooking info and Tea Party. Sounds like a real treat for girls' day out. Hope your DH enjoys SAI. It is so hard to please those DH's and I really would hate for him to be disappointed. We had a great V-Day. We had BIL, SIL, and the 3 DN and MIL and FIL over for wings and steaks. We had a lot of fun. Hope you all did too! Talk to you soon. I'll look for you on the boards!

LoveToDisney: I am sure you will have a lovely time at the BCV. I just bought points there in Dec and have yet to stay there. I will love to hear your trip report about the resort so I can look forward to my first stay there. Thanks for getting in touch w/ me and I will send Pixie Dust your way for a wonderful 1st trip in June.

Zurgswife: I can surely understand why you feel that way. Almost wish I bought points there instead. But then I remember how lucky I was to buy into SSR and BCV which made it possible for me to stay at the BWV this time. I certainly can't complain. I am blessed. You do have wonderful taste though! ::yes:: I certainly enjoyed your post. Thanks for reaching out to say "Hello".
 
Brigitte,

Thanks for all of your posts. I'm so happy that DVC is a great fit for you and your family.

I must say that I think that it's way cool on how you handled your darling 2 year old. We don't have kids. If I was in the same situation I probably would of had to pack up and leave. Way to go on making things work!!!!!! Don't you just wish that kids would come with an instruction booklet?

Your post helped me decide on how we are going to approach the DVC
-we were going back and forth between booking a studio or a one bedroom for our first trip. (Hoping for our card from DVC real soon). By your post (many thanks again) we will go with the one bedroom for the following reasons.
I like to take naps. DH usually has to leave the room to go do somthing else. No he can stay in the room and watch tv/read a book, etc.
-the whirlpool tub sounds divine. I have a bursitis in my hip that is seeing no end to tomorrow. I'm sure the tub will come in handy at the world.
-I love the idea of the washer and dryer. Now we can take much less. Gasp! I can't believe I said that. I'm a Libra that can never decide what to wear!!!
-The idea of the full Kitchen is way cool. No that we intend to cook many meals, but having the option to cook on or two would be great.
-The Space. We can spread out and have a relaxaing vacation.

I was so glad to hear in your post that you purchased the groceries at the Boardwalk. We've shopped at several of the grocery stores around Disney. For some reason I always feel like I'm not on vacation when I'm in line at the grocery store. Sure you pay more for the convenience. But for us I'd rather clip coupons back home and be able to "splurge" at the World.

Glad to hear that you eat out on your vacations. We plan to use the kitchen for breakfast and lunch. I'm not good with cooking complex dinners.

I did not know that you could order from Spoodles and Flying Fish. That sounds awesome. Sometimes we are just too tired or in the lazy vacation mode and do not want to go to the restaruant to eat. Do they have a separate menu for this or is everything included into one on the Boardwalk In Room Menu?

Isn't amazing how "park touring habits" change over time. Two trips ago I started "pulling" DH and I out of the park for a midday break. He didn't like it at first-I practically had to drag him out of the park. We went back to the resort-took a nap, read a book, swam. Did some downtime and recharged the batteries. Both of us (yes he'll admit it now) felt so much better after). Made the rest of the day so much more enjoyable.

That's what got me seriously thinking about DVC. If we had a place to go back and relax. A couch and living room space and a frig for a nice cold beverage would enhance our vacation experience. Sounds like for all of us DVC has put the Vacation back into the vacation.


Again, Thanks for your posts!

Renee

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Brigitte

I forgot to mention that after reading your post(s) it confirmed that DH and I will definetly NEED to be more points!! Don't ya think????!!!!!:Pinkbounc :bounce:

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