Just back: 9 days at HHI

mikeymars

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Still unpacking, but here's a quick report:

Check-in on Thursday, August 26 was smooth (nice "welcome home" from the CM; first time we've ever gotten that). Given the "right before the usual Friday checkout flee" timing, the only one bedroom that was available was in the Live Oak Lodge building, on the first floor. Family walks over to check it out, and finds it to be far from the pool, and with a not particularly great view (of the boardwalk and what my son called "the swamp.")

So we called the desk and requested a room change. CM was nice, and she called back within five minutes stating another one bedroom villa in bulding 19 would become available Saturday. Fine, we said "you have a deal" (we can live with that given a nine night stay).

Subsequently enjoyed the pool and a trip to the Beach House (which is great, very user-friendly setup, perhaps the nicest of any North American beach resort I've ever been to).

Over the next eight days, we managed to avoid a hit from both Tropical Storm Gaston and Hurricane Frances. Gaston actually helped, as he moved past us to the east on Friday, the surf on the beach on was huge (7-8 feet) which resulted in hours of fun on the boogie boards (yes, some rip currents, but nothing terrible). Same thing happened the following Friday afternoon when the effects of Hurricane Frances began to be felt. Literally got some 100 yard rides on those waves, given how far out they were breaking.

On that subject, believe it or not a large number of Floridians fleeing the hurricane began flooding Hilton Head the middle of last week; all of the cheaper motels (Red Roof Inn etc). were packed with them by the time we left yesterday (in particular, anyplace that accepted pets was sold out).

But back to the resort and the island in general:

The good news: :D

- Per what others have mentioned, CMs at the resort were generally very, very nice - particularly those at the beach house. Beach is wide, clean and has great conditions for bodysurfing and boogie-boarding. The crowd there was very "family" and laid back. Many complemented me and my son on the huge, complex sand castles we build (for info on how we got the tools and learned how to do that, check out:

http://www.unlitter.com

- The HHI property is in generally great shape. Landscaping is wonderful, rooms and public areas clean. Great place to let a kid ride a bike around.

- Lots of nice dining in Shelter Cove right across the harbor, as well as scores of other options within 10-15 minute drive. Salty Dog is strongly recommended. A well-stocked Piggly Wiggly is a four minute drive away, so groceries are also readily available (we enjoyed cooking out on the grills).

- Resort Family events (campfire, ghost storytelling time) were enjoyable. This is definitely the place to go for a taste of 1950s-era "not-in-your-face" Disney. Enjoyed the fact that the staff put on the Shrimp boil (boy, that shrimp was HUGE and that roast pork was incredible) despite the fact the eveing weather that Tuesday was so-so (thank heavens the pool staff was NOT involved in this event; more on that below).

- Crabbing and fishing at the pier. Great fun for kids.

- The "Pirate" mini-golf down the highway is also a great break for the kids, as well as the ice cream place at the far end northern end of Shelter Cove.

And now, the not-so-good news: :mad:

- Pool management: the current "save-a-buck-if-we-think-the clientele-won't-notice-it" Disney Resort mentality reared it's ugly head here: since the pool slide can only be open when a lifeguard is in attendance --and since the SMALL four person lifeguard staff must manage BOTH the pool and rental desk -- slide hours are quite SHORT (10 to 6 supposedly, but in reality during our stay more like 11 to 2). Given our prior experience at the Boardwalk (where slide is open much, much longer) this was annoying.

Also, in event of thunder, pool obviously closed, but was supposed to re-open 20 minutes after last thunder was heard. However, almost EVERY afternoon we were at the resort, lifeguards used the first thunder as an excuse to shut down the pool for the rest of the day, even when the clouds disappeared and the sun came back out.

- Smoking clientele: this resort apparently attracts the rude, rude, RUDE variant of the current smoker (lots of license plates from New York and New Jersey in the parking lots - wonder if there's a connection here....). Building 19 - which we were in for 7 nights of our stay -- was NON-SMOKING. However, the two women in the studio next to our villa INSISTED on chain smoking on their balcony, and some grossly overweight JERK in the Grand Villa above our room did the same thing, but with cigars. Both parties made it almost impossible for us to enjoy our baclony at night. In addition, almost every evening several men lit up cigars at the pool, stinking up the entire area (I lost count of the number of people I heard complaining about that).

- Savannah: if you are planning a visit to HHI and are thinking of doing a day trip here, DON'T. Our flight yesterday wasn't until 6:30pm, so after we checked out we drove to Savannah "to see the sites."

The problems started right away: the directions the front desk at DVC HHI provides to Savannah are a joke, full of errors (distances are wrong, directions give wrong turns, etc). We managed to find our way there anyway, and upon arrival, were greated with a hot, tired and relatively worn-down southern city. The "tourist" area down by the river has some interesting dining and shopping, but other than that, Savannah is generally unattractive and this side trip was a waste. If you want some real fun, do Charleston instead (longer drive but a cleaner, prettier and much more interesting city).

Did those issues ruin our vacation? Of course not - but they did affect our general sense of the resort. But all in all, this was an relaxing, enjoyable trip, and HHI is definitely now on our list of places we'll likely return to. :sunny:
 
Originally posted by mikeymars
and some grossly overweight JERK in the Grand Villa above our room did the same thing, but with cigars.

Though I really appreciated your report, I find it interesting that you had to mention the man's weight. Was that really necessary?
 
Have to remember to bring the pet skunk with. It hates cigar smoke.:teeth: :teeth:

No, I don't have a pet skunk.
 
HHI Trip

Glad to hear that you had a great time. HH is a great resort and we are owners there. On two of your points, I would like to comment:

1. Smoking on balconies is permitted at every Disney resort, as far as I know. It is my understanding that non-smoking means inside the actual room. I am sure your post will mutate into a smoking/non-smoking diatribe at some point. That is not my aim.

2. Your perception of Savannah may have been affected by the difficulty you had in actually getting there. It is a truly charming city that is made for walking and exploring. You should give it another a chance although I do agree with you that Charleston is much nicer.

We will be welcoming in 2005 at HH. Can't wait!!!


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Glad you had a good time in HHI! We as well own there, and stayed from July25-Aug 2 this year. We had none of what you had there (lifeguards closing pool at the drop of a hat), but the slide hours are posted in the resort newsletter from 10-6 or 10-5 or so. I as well think this is "weak", but my kids are a little older, and 7 hours of slides are enough for us.

On the smoking issue, I understand (as I hate cig/cigar smoke), BUT that is a BIG pool with lots of chairs, I could not see you/me MOVING away, unless 35 chairs had smokers in it, I do not see your problem.

Glad you had a great time there, but DO visit Savannah again, there are ghost trips you can take at nite, carraige rides, lots of food/beverage places.. It is a nice trip and place to go to at least once...

DeerH
 
Originally posted by DVCTiff
Though I really appreciated your report, I find it interesting that you had to mention the man's weight. Was that really necessary?

Perhaps not, but let's just say the size of the fellow didn't help our reaction to his poor manners!

Originally posted by DownNeckBoy
1. Smoking on balconies is permitted at every Disney resort, as far as I know. It is my understanding that non-smoking means inside the actual room. I am sure your post will mutate into a smoking/non-smoking diatribe at some point. That is not my aim.

Nor was it mine. My point wasn't "anti-smokers," it had to do with simple politenness. Given the size and layout of the property, there are scores of outdoor areas where a smoker can go and light up away from families with children, and in fact, I saw the majority of polite ones during our trip doing exactly that. Unfortunately, the small minority of those without care for others happened to be in the same building as us (why is unclear, they could have requested the smoking villas...yes, I know there are only two.)

Originally posted by DownNeckBoy
2. Your perception of Savannah may have been affected by the difficulty you had in actually getting there. It is a truly charming city that is made for walking and exploring. You should give it another a chance although I do agree with you that Charleston is much nicer.

The drive and poor directions didn't help, but what was worse was arrival. The DVC directions (if you can work around them) take you over the bridge and right to the visitors center. The latter is in a really downscale area, right next to the brand new...JAIL. Welcome to Savannah!

deerh
Glad you had a good time in HHI! We as well own there, and stayed from July25-Aug 2 this year. We had none of what you had there (lifeguards closing pool at the drop of a hat), but the slide hours are posted in the resort newsletter from 10-6 or 10-5 or so. I as well think this is "weak", but my kids are a little older, and 7 hours of slides are enough for us.

Seven hours would have been fine - if we had gotten anything near that. Again, the point I was focused on was staffing, which was too low during our visit (may have been higher during yours) which did negatively affect the visitor experience.

deerh
On the smoking issue, I understand (as I hate cig/cigar smoke), BUT that is a BIG pool with lots of chairs, I could not see you/me MOVING away, unless 35 chairs had smokers in it, I do not see your problem.

Deer, the pool is nice, but small compared to those at places like the Boardwalk. The cigar problem was that at night, the breezes over the pool area calmed down, so the cigar smoke didn't move much and covered EVERYTHING - the fact people 80 feet away from the smoker(s) were complaining about the smell was more than proof of that.
 
In support of your original post, personally I don't see how you could spend 9 days at Hilton Head anyway. We were there last Thanksgiving (with no kids) for 5 days and found it to be incredibly boring. There wasn't really much to do, except sit at the fairly small pool. The weather wasn't warm enough for the beach, the shopping outlets are like every other one up and down the east coast, and there are restautants all over the place, but we don't like to eat out every night. The buildings at the resort were crowded on top of each other, without much privacy, so I can see how smoke would be an issue. We also tried Savannah (especially Paula's Restaurant--A Lady and her Sons, or whatever the name is[from the Food Network], but it too was uninspiring. It was good for us to experience this, though, so we can see how much we prefer WDW resorts, even with no children.
I'm sure the HH owners won't appreciate these comments, but it just shows that DVC members have a wide range of interests, and that DVC attempts to address a wider market than the usual Disney consumer. If I had been shown the HH property prior to our purchase, I probably would not have bought into DVC, but since I investigated the other resorts, I found something we liked enough to become part of the DVC family.:sunny:
 
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Originally posted by 2bears
If I had been shown the HH property prior to our purchase, I probably would not have bought into DVC, but since I investigated the other resorts, I found something we liked enough to become part of the DVC family.:sunny:

That is interesting how different owners see it differently! I've always said if HH were the ONLY location for a DVC, I would have still bought there. Even though i love OKW, i would trade my 300 there and switch it to HH and make OKW 152 points, which is what i have at HH.
We also noticed the early slide closings and heard others commenting that it wasn't long enough to be open. However, to compliment the lifeguards, while we were there a young boy had trouble staying afloat after coming off the slide and that lifeguard was in that water in a matter of seconds saving him. The kid was a little shook up and being a small pool, everyone saw what happened. IMHO, the child was too small to be in the water w/o a parent to begin with!
 
Originally posted by 2bears
In support of your original post, personally I don't see how you could spend 9 days at Hilton Head anyway. We were there last Thanksgiving (with no kids) for 5 days and found it to be incredibly boring. There wasn't really much to do, except sit at the fairly small pool. The weather wasn't warm enough for the beach, the shopping outlets are like every other one up and down the east coast, and there are restautants all over the place, but we don't like to eat out every night. The buildings at the resort were crowded on top of each other, without much privacy, so I can see how smoke would be an issue. We also tried Savannah (especially Paula's Restaurant--A Lady and her Sons, or whatever the name is[from the Food Network], but it too was uninspiring. It was good for us to experience this, though, so we can see how much we prefer WDW resorts, even with no children.
I'm sure the HH owners won't appreciate these comments, but it just shows that DVC members have a wide range of interests, and that DVC attempts to address a wider market than the usual Disney consumer. If I had been shown the HH property prior to our purchase, I probably would not have bought into DVC, but since I investigated the other resorts, I found something we liked enough to become part of the DVC family.:sunny:

Thanks for the support. Yes, the place is quiet, but our "long" stay at a laid back, quiet resort was intentional (our kids did get a little tired of beach/pool/beach/pool/beach/pool by the end, but that was to be expected). As I said in my original post, HHI is a version of old-time, "not-in-your-face" Disney, and I think the people who enjoy it arrive with that expectation. Like you, we generally love a lot of activity (which is why we are spending eight days at our home resort of the Boardwalk next summer), but this trip was designed to be different.

Also per my original post, I found the buildings and general layout of the resort to be nice. Yes, villas are close to and "on top of" each other, but no more so than at most DVC resorts. If the place was too crammed, noise would have been a problem, but it wasn't during our visit (the fact there are lots of trees between buldings helps). The smoking on balconys and around the pool issues we ran into may not be regular problems; the fact the place had a large number of older (ergo, 55+) northeasterners on site during our stay may have had something to do with we experienced.

Your view of HH island is somewhat like what we had. The shopping and dining overall is nice but nothing particularly special (seafood was good, but in our experience is much better in Maine); what we liked is the fact development has been carefully controlled, so the place hasn't been overbuilt like so much of the Northeast seafront and Florida.

Originally posted by Donna
However, to compliment the lifeguards, while we were there a young boy had trouble staying afloat after coming off the slide and that lifeguard was in that water in a matter of seconds saving him. The kid was a little shook up and being a small pool, everyone saw what happened. IMHO, the child was too small to be in the water w/o a parent to begin with!

I wasn't complaining about the lifeguards, but rather the rules they worked under while we were there (limited staffing, over-conservative weather-related shut-downs of the pool). I didn't see any children in trouble in the water while there, but did see some parents pushing little children (ergo, TODDLERS) to try out the slide, even when the child was clearly uncomfortable about it. I've seen the same crap at WDW (parents pushing frightened, crying children to go on scary attractions) and it ALWAYS angers me.
 
We were there last Thanksgiving (with no kids) for 5 days and found it to be incredibly borin

Everyone are not the same.

I remember back in the 50's/60s when you went to the summer cottage and got bored..........and enjoyed it!!!
 
By Ice: Deer, the pool is nice, but small compared to those at places like the Boardwalk. The cigar problem was that at night, the breezes over the pool area calmed down, so the cigar smoke didn't move much and covered EVERYTHING - the fact people 80 feet away from the smoker(s) were complaining about the smell was more than proof of that.

Wow, must have been some STRONG cigars!! Granted the HHI pool is not BWV (my home as well as HHI), but there is at least 70-80 feet between the far ends of the pool!

Oh well, sounds like you had an overall good time after all.
And thanks for the clarification of the family/friends and charging points "at Cost". I still would NOT do that to my friends, but that is you, not me.. As for distant cousins-Yeah, I might charge them, but not many left on my side. On my wife's side, would not charge them any, again different strokes......

DeerH
 
Originally posted by deerh
Wow, must have been some STRONG cigars!! Granted the HHI pool is not BWV (my home as well as HHI), but there is at least 70-80 feet between the far ends of the pool!

Deer, I'm sure the pool area is a at least a good 80-100 feet wide at it's largest point. Remember, however, the buildings and landscaping around it - beautiful, large trees and/or two story villas ALL the way around the whole pool (in many places within 15-20 feet of the water) somewhat "enclose" the air in the area when there isn't any wind or breeze. Also, smoke travels easily and far over a flat, closed surface like water.

Whatever, I'm still wondering why I hardly EVER saw anyone smoking cigarettes around the pool (in fact, only once, some woman with an infant of all things lit up late one afternoon), but had no problem seeing men puffing on cigars there at least half of the nights of our visit. Don't these guys (who looked very "New Jersey," but let's not go there) realize the cigar fad when out of fashion about four years ago?
 
Smoking clientele: this resort apparently attracts the rude, rude, RUDE variant of the current smoker (lots of license plates from New York and New Jersey in the parking lots - wonder if there's a connection here....).
Thanks for the report. However, I am from NJ and can I assure you that I am neither rude nor a smoker.
 
I hate to say this - but I had a GV from 8/1 - 8/6. Too short in our minds. Oh - we also had a studio. Big group. 17 people.

But the kids in the group - my DS - 7, and our nephew 10, traveled on to the BWV with us, and told us HH slide "ruled" and the BWV slide was just OK.

And the 45 yo Mom has to admit - I agree. BWV slide too slow. HH slide fast and in the dark. You become a little disoriented.

All we heard while at the BWV from the ungrateful kids - wished we were still at HH.
 
Originally posted by buzz5985
I the kids in the group - my DS - 7, and our nephew 10, traveled on to the BWV with us, and told us HH slide "ruled" and the BWV slide was just OK.

And the 45 yo Mom has to admit - I agree. BWV slide too slow. HH slide fast and in the dark. You become a little disoriented.

To each his own - what you omitted is how low and short the HHI slide is (at best, a 15 foot drop over a course of 50-60 feet), compared to an over 200 foot long course dropping over over 35 feet at Boardwalk. Or as stated differently by my friends in Texas, bigger is usually better.

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Slow? If you ride the Keister Coaster slide properly (ergo, on your back with your head down, i.e. the "Olympic luge approach," for maximum speed, shown below),

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you easily pick up quite a bit of inertia, enough to go way, WAY up on the banked curves (which you CAN't do in the "tube" at HHI, again, it's too short to get the speed necessary), which IMHO is a lot more exciting than that incredibly brief "disorientation" (because of the small size of the HHI slide, that "horrific" darkness lasts a big, long...1.5 seconds). Which is why MY 7 and 10 year old children -- who have also experienced both slides -- can't wait to return to WDW next summer.

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Thanks for the informative post. We are going to HH next month. It got me psyched and I'm really looking forward to it.

None of the above negative comments bother me at all. Except possibly the fact that there may be lots of people from another regional culture, which can be uncomfortable for me. It sounds like most of the disappointments were related to wrong expectations.

Some people just don't enjoy the beach. It IS boring unless you like to sit for hours doing nothing. Or fish and boogie board and collect shells. [You didn't mention shells. Did the storms bring any up to the beaches?] I wouldn't expect much to be happening at HH in late November. Those comments are not unexpected or surprising.

I'm glad to hear there's a good fishing pier. Maybe we'll fish there instead of the beach. I was reading on line that beach fishing restrictions relax a bit in October. I guess cause the beaches are less crowded.

Our plans are to bike and fish during the day. And play cards by the pool at night. Chips and sandwiches and Dr. Pepper. And go to Salty Dog once. Oh yeah, and drive around in our new convertible.

:sunny:
 
Originally posted by OneMoreTry
Oh yeah, and drive around in our new convertible.
:sunny:

I've had one for the last two years, and enjoy it during the summer at home. Was offered a convertible by Hertz for an extra $15 a day when we picked up the rental car at the Savannah airport, but said "no thanks" (existing owners don't get all excited about this sort of offer; they are in fact targeted at those who don't hormally drive one, e.g. those who get all worked up about the opportunity to actually drive a drop-top). On that subject, driving around HH, saw lots of generic "me too" convertibles (Mustangs and Sebrings -- yawn).
 
Hola everyone! HH is our home resort and I don't take offense to some of the comments posted on this site because HH is not WDW and is not for everyone. HH is for kicking your feet up and relaxing, if you like to be on the go all the time with tons of stuff to do, then I don't recommend it. If you like the slow pace laid back kind of vacation then you will fall in love with HH. The items you find on the beach are unreal. We have found tons of sand dollars and starfish (some of them were still alive and my daughter got to experience holding them in her hand with them moving around, very cool!!) My family lives on the NC coast and we have never found those items on the NC coast ( not saying someone else hasn't). The staff is wonderful at HH, but I haven't found a DVC resort where we haven't fallen in love with the hospitality from the CM's. Regarding the pool and slide (would be nice if they would extend the hours a little more; however we have found that if no one is using the side they will cut if off but if you want to go on the slide all we have to do is tell one of the lifeguards and they will cut if back on. The first time we went my daughter wanted to go down the slide but was nervous. The lifeguard overheard our conversation, and came back with a life vest, put it on her and talked her into going down the slide. By the end of the week we had gotten close with 3 other families and our kids were doing all the activities together and we began making plans to do other things together as a group. Anyways, I am getting off the subject. I think its great that DVC has such variety in their resorts so you get a different type of vacation and there is always something for everyone. So if you haven't been to HH and you like to sit back and relax, come visit our home.
 
Do you remember the room #s of the one bedrooms. I thought it was so funny when you mentioned "the swamp view". I can definitely see how someone might see it that way-yet goes to show how "the best view" is subjective-DH and I got that kind of view once-as bird-watchers, we loved it!
 
"Or as stated differently by my friends in Texas, bigger is usually better. "

Actually I'm Poohed sized so I should be able to pick up a lot of speed on my own. LOL Didn't happen. LOL Also heard a lot of complaints from men with hair - BWV tended to rip it out, not a smooth ride.
 















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