Just Back 9/22 with new observations

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Our last family trip was in Dec 2018, so I thought I would share a few observations from our trip this past week. During the week, crowds were very low and expectedly higher on the weekend but still manageable with fastpass.

The biggest difference I noticed was watching HEA and fireworks. The last few times we have been this process seems to have changed everytime. There are now new areas of taped out "walkways" that we use to watch HEA from. We did not secure a spot to watch the show ahead of time, and once it started cast members would not allow us in any of the areas we normally use as they are now "walkways" only. This left us behind trees, umbrellas, etc. We were simply unable to find a standing spot for 4 people where we could see the castle projections, so we elected to leave and beat the crowds out of the park. Im not complaining at all, as we should have set out a spot 30 min-1hr early. However this is a very notable change. Many of the older maps "best fireworks viewing locations" are no longer relevant if not updated for these "walkway" areas.

Epcot is a mess with lots of construction walls, no way around it. We followed the crowd out of the park exit without paying good attention to all of the changes and found ourselves near the bus/monorail and had to go BACK THROUGH security just to exit via the parking lot. That being said, you can still have a very enjoyable time in Epcot, just be mindful it is under heavy construction and there are lots of traffic changes and starbucks is closed (worth mentioning I think).

We took advantage of EMH on one day to visit HS and Toy Story Land and Smugglers Run (single rider) were all walk on for 3 hours straight. Watching the sun come up in the park was definitely worth the experience and I highly recommend taking advantage of this opportunity if you can as it is unlikely to happen again. We arrived at the park at 6am, and to our surprise they were not charging for parking at that hour! Not sure if that is ongoing or not but we were surprised by it.

Hope that helps someone with their planning
 
Thanks for the updates. Sounds a lot like the last 3 couples I planned out a vacation for. They are all reporting very light crowds. Makes me wonder if Disney has finally hit a lot of peoples breaking point on these price increases.
 

Thanks for the update. Going in 3 weeks, hoping for lighter crowds than usual. Fortunately we will enter EPCOT through the IG, so we will miss a lot of the mess.
 
I dread all the construction walls at Epcot. At least most/all attractions are still open
 
We got back on the 17th. I agree very low crowds and never waited more than 25 minutes for smugglers run (not single rider) we were able to do all the positions one morning.

Epcot construction takes away from the magic for sure but still had a great time.
 
Here now and crowds seem higher but will go to HS tomorrow then AK Thursday. Skipping EP this trip.
 
We arrived at the park at 6am, and to our surprise they were not charging for parking at that hour! Not sure if that is ongoing or not but we were surprised by it.

Hope that helps someone with their planning
it would be logical that they wouldn't be charging at that hour as they would assume only onsite people would be there then, who get free parking. Although with Disney Springs hotels now getting EMH too that's surprising
 
Our last family trip was in Dec 2018, so I thought I would share a few observations from our trip this past week. During the week, crowds were very low and expectedly higher on the weekend but still manageable with fastpass.

The biggest difference I noticed was watching HEA and fireworks. The last few times we have been this process seems to have changed everytime. There are now new areas of taped out "walkways" that we use to watch HEA from. We did not secure a spot to watch the show ahead of time, and once it started cast members would not allow us in any of the areas we normally use as they are now "walkways" only. This left us behind trees, umbrellas, etc. We were simply unable to find a standing spot for 4 people where we could see the castle projections, so we elected to leave and beat the crowds out of the park. Im not complaining at all, as we should have set out a spot 30 min-1hr early. However this is a very notable change. Many of the older maps "best fireworks viewing locations" are no longer relevant if not updated for these "walkway" areas.

Epcot is a mess with lots of construction walls, no way around it. We followed the crowd out of the park exit without paying good attention to all of the changes and found ourselves near the bus/monorail and had to go BACK THROUGH security just to exit via the parking lot. That being said, you can still have a very enjoyable time in Epcot, just be mindful it is under heavy construction and there are lots of traffic changes and starbucks is closed (worth mentioning I think).

We took advantage of EMH on one day to visit HS and Toy Story Land and Smugglers Run (single rider) were all walk on for 3 hours straight. Watching the sun come up in the park was definitely worth the experience and I highly recommend taking advantage of this opportunity if you can as it is unlikely to happen again. We arrived at the park at 6am, and to our surprise they were not charging for parking at that hour! Not sure if that is ongoing or not but we were surprised by it.

Hope that helps someone with their planning
It’s wild to me that they closed the Starbucks at Epcot before having a temp location up and running. The only article I could find about it online had it closing 11/23 so I feel like it took people by surprise. Including me!
 
I think, I remember reading Starbucks was moving to a temporary home in the Odyssey Pavilion. Not sure that was ever confirmed or if a date was provided (immediately relocating or at later date).
 
Is all of the Epcot construction mainly in FW. Anything going on in WS?
World Showcase is in pretty good shape, except for Canada. That has pretty visible construction going on. France isn't too bad, but it is back there with the new ride being built. But I would say the majority of the visible construction is in the front by Future World.
 
We took advantage of EMH on one day to visit HS and Toy Story Land and Smugglers Run (single rider) were all walk on for 3 hours straight. Watching the sun come up in the park was definitely worth the experience and I highly recommend taking advantage of this opportunity if you can as it is unlikely to happen again. We arrived at the park at 6am, and to our surprise they were not charging for parking at that hour! Not sure if that is ongoing or not but we were surprised by it.
We did this last Thursday and it was so incredibly cool! The sunrise in Batuu was so neat, and being able to walk on rides was too!
 


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