Just Announced - Disney To Change MS

[Magalex]

My DH is excited. This will be exciting for children like my 5 yr old DS that likes to play make believe(without the intensity). The children would love to play pretend astronaut along with some big kids like my DH.

 

[Kick Save]

Heres (one of) my questions...they post tons of warnings, right? So for the most part, most people who are conscious of their health issues dont ride it. This isn't going to prevent someone who has an underlying condition, which has already happened, from riding, and either getting sick or dying. More people may try the newer version, but it won't eliminate the risk thats always been there.

I've got to ask again: WHAT could Disney do to prevent/help/inform somebody with an underlying condition from riding ANYTHING there? You're asking them to predict the unknown, that's not a reasonable request.

 

[raidermatt]

I've got to ask again: WHAT could Disney do to prevent/help/inform somebody with an underlying condition from riding ANYTHING there?

You're right... that's the dilemna.

Based on the more extensive history of all of the other thrill rides there (except E:E), its not really an issue. Incidents like the two on M:S are either years apart, or non-existent on those other attractions.

Since M:S has a more limited history, and two "major" incidents, it does pose a problem. There probably isn't much else they can do, without changing the ride. But at the same time, they can't have people dying at the rate they have, even if they are people with pre-existing conditions.

This change could be beneficial in two ways. One, those that would not ride otherwise can still ride, though its not clear how fun it will be without the spinning. And two, if the problem with the deaths on M:S is partly a "self selection" factor, then perhaps those people are more likely to ride the no-spinning version.

I personally think its an attempt at a quick fix, but that doesn't mean it won't work.

 

[Minnie824]

I've got to ask again: WHAT could Disney do to prevent/help/inform somebody with an underlying condition from riding ANYTHING there? You're asking them to predict the unknown, that's not a reasonable request.

I'm not saying that Disney could do anything about it. I'm just saying that their change to the ride, isn't going to impact whether they will have more deaths on the MS.

 

[Kick Save]

I'm not saying that Disney could do anything about it. I'm just saying that their change to the ride, isn't going to impact whether they will have more deaths on the MS.

There have been zero deaths ON Mission: Space. A known or unknown high risk health condition is not Disney's nor M:S's fault. "Led to" death, maybe. But nobody has died on the ride. (Sorry to split hairs, but that "died on M:S" thing gets tossed around too much.)

I'm with you, RaiderMatt, this is the quickfix, PR move to keep people lining up for M:S. Even though the deaths are the result of something that Disney had no control over, they're now in damage control mode because the court of public opinion is way more detrimental to the bottom line than any lawsuit could be...

 

[orljustin]

Look at "sounds dangerous" people still go in there constantly...do they experience a ride? No, do they watch something? Yes, for a little bit, then then they are stuck with headphones on their ears to experience the sound of what is going on around them...(this is my its too hot we need some air conditioning and a quick snooze attraction, lol).

"Sounds Dangerous" was an attraction that was created around the idea of sitting and concentrating solely on a soundtrack. "Mission Space" was created solely around the idea of using this centrafuge to create realistic gravity effects. The analogy would be more like taking the sound out of "Sounds Dangerous", not that it isn't a ride. Attractions that are not rides are created with a specific purpose that makes them enjoyable.

The graphics in the movie are completely unspectacular. I can't think of a reason I would want to sit in the tiny room and watch videogame graphics on a 10 inch screen. And I don't really like the full effect either myself, but I can't imagine going on the new one.

 

[Minnie824]

There have been zero deaths ON Mission: Space. A known or unknown high risk health condition is not Disney's nor M:S's fault. "Led to" death, maybe. But nobody has died on the ride. (Sorry to split hairs, but that "died on M:S" thing gets tossed around too much.)

I'm with you, RaiderMatt, this is the quickfix, PR move to keep people lining up for M:S. Even though the deaths are the result of something that Disney had no control over, they're now in damage control mode because the court of public opinion is way more detrimental to the bottom line than any lawsuit could be...

Just to clarify, so you think that little boy, who had a unknown heart condition, went on MS, later died...if he had gone over to the land boat ride instead, you still think he would have died? You think MS had no impact on his death? I'm not saying its disneys fault he died, I know he didnt die 'on' the ride, but don't you think it may have had something to do with going on the ride?

 

[brivers222]

Just to clarify, so you think that little boy, who had a unknown heart condition, went on MS, later died...if he had gone over to the land boat ride instead, you still think he would have died? You think MS had no impact on his death? I'm not saying its disneys fault he died, I know he didnt die 'on' the ride, but don't you think it may have had something to do with going on the ride?

Thats all speculation... The boy could of died by somebody running up behind him catching him off guards and yelling BOO!

Underlying heart condition could be triggered anywhere anytime. Basically his heart was a living beating time bomb. It was just a matter of When not If it was going to stop.

 

[Kick Save]

Just to clarify, so you think that little boy, who had a unknown heart condition, went on MS, later died...if he had gone over to the land boat ride instead, you still think he would have died? You think MS had no impact on his death? I'm not saying its disneys fault he died, I know he didnt die 'on' the ride, but don't you think it may have had something to do with going on the ride?

Just to clarify, go back and re-read my second sentence the phrase "led to death" is in there. Do I think M:S could have led to exacerebating an existing unknown condition? Yes, I do. But, there are a number of things inside and outside of WDW that could have done the same thing. M:S being the last thing done prior to death is unfortunate, but it is also coincedental.

It is altogether possible that Living with the Land could exacerbate some unknown health condition. It's unlikely, but possible. If that happens, should it become a walking tour?

 

[raidermatt]

It was just a matter of When not If it was going to stop.

Well, if we are going to be truly accurate, this is not known either. Many of those that have the condition never experience any negative effects from the condition. While I agree that its not fair to say the boy's death was Disney's, or the ride's, "fault", its also not accurate to say he would have died anyway. Its possible he would not have.


orljustin is correct... M:S wasn't DESIGNED to run without the spinning. In fact, the ride was built around the idea of expeirencing something similar to what astronauts actually experience.

I'm not saying it has no value without the spinning, but its quite different than an attraction that was designed to be entertaining without the physical impacts. (Though in the case of Sounds Dangerous, many would say its not entertaining anyway)

 

[Goofy's_Biggest_Fan]

Disney themeing makes a ride more than just about the 3 minutes or whatever you spend riding - there's the whole queue area and the concept of the ride - and I've always wondered what I was missing out on - but couldn't cope with the spinning!

Exactly my sentiments. It's not just the ride, but the whole ambiance of the attraction as you wait in line and as you depart the attraction.

To most thrill ride enthusiasts, the tamer version may seem like a waste of time. But for those of us with medical conditions such as high blood pressure, even going into a little booth and watching a bad-graphics monitor is better than scrapping the whole Mission Space experience.

 

[Hugpug]

This trills me to no end. I am very happy to hear this. I always wanted to ride it but with my medical condition there is no way I would. I can't wait to hear how it is after some have tried the new way. I don't leave till November so we should see some feed back. Way to go DISNEY glad you listened to us DIS people.

 

[tweedlewtwinsmama]

A big from me. I can do any rollercoaster but I can't do spinny rides. So now maybe I'll give MS a try.

 

[Lora]

This option sounds good to me. I know people who wouldn't do it the regular way, but may try this out.

Now....is there any way to by-pass the creepy "hypersleep" part that freaked my dd out?? She won't go on it again because that part gave her nightmares.

 

[disneyfreakjackie]

I'm honestly surprised people are actually interested in a non-spinning one. Without the centerfuge, it's like watching a movie on a screen 12 inches from your face. There's just no real "experience" there. I just don't get it.

My thoughts exactly! ... just watching a movie!!

 

[brivers222]

Go on that People mover thingy (sorry I can't remember the name of it for the life of me) at MK... sit back and close your eyes... You will probablly get a more realistic feeling of going into space than watching a video... Weird, If M:S bothers you that much, don't waste your time sitting through a movie. M:S is a simulator based on feeling, something this "new" addition will be lacking to the highest degree.

 

[huey578]

Go on that People mover thingy (sorry I can't remember the name of it for the life of me) at MK... sit back and close your eyes... You will probablly get a more realistic feeling of going into space than watching a video... Weird, If M:S bothers you that much, don't waste your time sitting through a movie. M:S is a simulator based on feeling, something this "new" addition will be lacking to the highest degree.

No one is forcing you or others to ride the toned down MS ride. I could understand if the entire ride is being toned down I would be upset.

 

[westjones]

We leave a month from today for WDW. It would be great if they offered the tamer version by then. My DD and I haven't been on (DH loves the regular version) and I would never get on it as it was, but would love to see the movie and the ride from the inside.
DJ

 

[mickeyfan2]

Yeah now I can ride it. The spinning would really get me sick.

 

[mickeyfan2]

I think I saw somewhere once that if you are experiencing a ride and its not moving (for example Body Wars or Star Tours) your mind gets all screwed up. It makes you want to think you are moving but you aren't, which leads you to get motion sickness anyways.

At SW the Wild Artic ride you can go by land or sea. I always go by land. The movement on the movie almost never bothers me, but if it does, just closing your eyes for a few seconds and all is good again. On the ride there is no other option once you start to get sick.